Hello! OMG, multiple ruininng videos my most favorite, thank you for contributing!
That one isn’t mine, but it’s one of my favorite ruin videos. I’m currently making one like this. If there’s anything you particularly like or dislike about it, I would love to hear about it.
I actually played the "ruin 6" quite a good number of times over the years. And have also been experimenting quite a bit with the ruin theme. If you played my videos you would notice the theme present in "Cock Hero - Anal Escorts" and to lesser extent in "Cock Hero of Doom" in the finishing rounds.
I have had other attempts at "ruin" instructions a few of my productions, but ultimately these elements were scrapped and never made it into the final video.
For some particular likes about "Ruin 6". I would say the primary things is that it is an actually well edited hard core cock hero. If I had to redo the video, things I would change would be upping the production value, like adding more scenes to the pool to increase variety, add a real beatmeter, use different visual indicators for instructions etc.
well... and then I would probably add a lot more anal scenes to the mix.. and throw in some intense gangbang action around ruin 4 or 5.
For the pacing of the ruins. I think the video is done at the very edge of what is physically possible if you play without cheating. From my experience 10 min between ruins seems like the lower limit. anything shorter and it does not really work.
Kharon, thanks for the input. My initial thought was to use the same stroke cues that was originally used. But maybe I should put out two versions, and have one with a proper beatmeter for those that prefer it. I remember one producer employs that tactic, I think it's TripleXXX.
This is the best news! I'm so looking forward to this when its ready.
Ruin 6 is one my all-time favourite videos. The way it makes you edge multiple time inbetween ruins is great so you don't realise which one is finally going to push you over to a ruin.
Other multi-ruin videos (if that's a genre) are great fun too. Shoutouts to the Ruin 6 sort-of-sequel 'Ruin Rounds', and Xfah's Ultimate Edging and Ruin Challenge.
What I find too often though is that some videos don't give you enough of a rest period after each ruin. It doesn't have to be a long rest but some have start stroking again only a few seconds after the ruin. For my money, you need a break to make sure you avoid actually cumming. Oh, and having you keep your hands off for a little while lets you realise what you've just done and let the fact you just voluntarily ruined your orgasm sink in - if that makes sense?
I agree with kharon about the pacing too. 10m+ between them seems the most realistic. Lets you build up to the next one too instead of super quick stroking right after the breaks.
Respects to you knobhobby for creating. I wish I had the talent.
For my money, you need a break to make sure you avoid actually cumming. Oh, and having you keep your hands off for a little while lets you realise what you've just done and let the fact you just voluntarily ruined your orgasm sink in - if that makes sense?
This is good feedback. A nice cooldown can easily be added.
I agree with kharon about the pacing too. 10m+ between them seems the most realistic.
Noted. I initially wanted to bump up the length of time between them to around 15 minutes, but that would increase the length of the video from 70 minutes to 105 minutes on average - I thought a 1h45m video was a little lengthy.
Good timing on this feedback, because I just got to the first ruin in the production, so this helps a lot.
Spaghetti-Kentucky wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:50 pm
Other multi-ruin videos (if that's a genre) are great fun too. Shoutouts to the Ruin 6 sort-of-sequel 'Ruin Rounds', and Xfah's Ultimate Edging and Ruin Challenge.
I've come across Ruin 6 and Xfah's Edge and Ruin challenge, not sure I've ever seen Ruin Rounds. Is that available anywhere else than Empornium currently and if not is anybody able to share it on Mega?
Spaghetti-Kentucky wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:50 pm
What I find too often though is that some videos don't give you enough of a rest period after each ruin. It doesn't have to be a long rest but some have start stroking again only a few seconds after the ruin. For my money, you need a break to make sure you avoid actually cumming. Oh, and having you keep your hands off for a little while lets you realise what you've just done and let the fact you just voluntarily ruined your orgasm sink in - if that makes sense?
Completely agree with this.
Also for me personally I'd love to hear some voiceover, there's plenty of femdom out there with ruin clips, be it Shibby, Alexandra Snow, Raquel Roper, Princess Miki or Eva De Vil
Also for me personally I'd love to hear some voiceover, there's plenty of femdom out there with ruin clips, be it Shibby, Alexandra Snow, Raquel Roper, Princess Miki or Eva De Vil
I think there might be a way to use some voiceover work, but it wasn’t part of the original idea. I’ll have to play around and see if it fits audio-wise. Perhaps peppered in here and there would work as a tension builder. Thanks for the names; I’ll check these ladies out.
I just want to chip in here again and say: If this is your first full length production, I really recommend you keep things simple and stick to the basics.
The process of creating a well edited cock hero is VERY LONG. and adding too many elements will just crush you before you are half way.
If I were you I would limit the length and the amount of ruins for this first version. You can always make a sequel later if the first one works out. And finishing a project lets you lean a lot of things for the next one. You WILL make blunders in your first production. And these will be easier to fix if you don't go all out on your first production.
My suggestion is maybe start with a 3 round demo and look for feedback here. Then adjust according to the feed back YOU LIKE and ignore the rest. Then make the next 3 rounds.
Hey Kharon, I definitely appreciate the advice and concern. Although this will be my first full length, I have made several pmvs over the last few years. Most got destroyed in the Pornhub purge, but a couple got bootlegged onto other sites. I know for a fact that some of my earliest work can be found somewhere if you search for “popper jams porn”. I do have one submission I still keep around on Spankbang, I’ll post it below. It was a submission for the PMV Games sponsored by Gemcutter, and I got second place, I think.
Anywhos, I respect the monumental task of creating an hour plus edit, as I know the amount of time a 10 minute video can take. I definitely will post a beta for people to review when I hit a good stopping point.
I am an addict to Ruin 6. The only things I don't like about it are:
1.- There's only a 720 version of it.
2.- I don't know who the author is to thank him.
3.- There's no great estim file for it (there's one around but not at the level of the latest creations).
4.- I wasn't ever able to ruin myself 6 times within the hour (yet).
I'm thrilled to hear this! I curated a pornhub list back in the day of ruin/multi-cum cock heros, and Ruin 6 and Edge and Ruin where the two gold standards of the genre. Two random thoughts -
1) I prefer the games where the ruin round isn't exactly obvious. In ruin 6, if you're familiar with the ruined orgasm videos, you know what's coming in the round when they start playing. Edge and Ruin did a nice job of keeping of you guessing, so you were never sure if you would have to ruin from an edge.
2) I'm not really a fan of soft-core cock heros, but lately I have been absolutely in love with the tease rounds that start the Passion series. The titty-drop sequences in particular are absolute art, cutting away at the perfect time, and then forcing you to stop stroking right when you want to stroke more than anything. If there was anything I wished was incorporated into the ruin cock heros of old, it was those warm-up rounds.
Did not play, But had a look through your round screening it from a technical perspective.
I must say. I'm very Impressed with how faithful you are to the original. I actually think you got it so close that you would not be able to tell this round apart from the original, in terms of intensity and the "vibe" of the scene selection. Though I'm not entirely sure it is good always. as there are a few things I dislike about the original.
1. Scene variety: I'm a huge fan of a big scene variety, rarely using more than 30 sec of a scene in production. My golden rule is at least 10 source scenes for each 5 minutes of CH. Preferably spread out during the whole video. I much prefer seeing 5 seconds of a scene 10 times during the video, than seeing 30-60 second in one round, only to never return to the scene again.
2. Instruction duration indicator: I get that the original indicators are super easy to do editing wise, and for the most parts works very well. The only thing I miss is some kind of visual indicator of when a segment is coming up next. It does not have to be as advanced as the one in "Earn your release", which nailed this down perfectly. In extension of this. especially during tricky edges at the later stages. This "next indicator" can be removed to increase the suspense of the player. It is just when you are flipping between slow / medium / fast / stop that I find it very convenient to have this kind of "next" indicator.
Other than that. Things look very good. Also excellent song choices. I think this kind of "medium" intensity EDM works very well in this kind of video. I generally really dislike vocals in CH, but a style like "fisher - losing it" fits perfectly (I have a round with this track in my back-log!)
Voice overs from joi-vids would probably also work very well in this kind of production to take it a level up.
