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Disco Strip

Video: 1.5 GB, 4K
Length: 8:46
Staring: Jizzles
Download link: https://mega.nz/file/0c9jXDAY#tufTF-D09 ... Ck_psIMqpI

Since this is all new for me, I would love to hear some feedback and ideas on how to improve.
I'm also not sure about the quality vs size vs performance that I should aim for. This is the best I've come up with so far.

Commentary / lessons learned:
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So here is what I've learned from editing this and using VR for some time:
(Bear in mind, these are just my opinions)

Issues with VR
Weight, cable, low resolution and low FOV which makes it feel like you are looking through a diving mask. :lol:
I own Rift S and altought it's pretty impressive technology, it just barely passes as a usable product for me. It will require couple of more generation before VR could be (maybe?) an amazing experience?

Issues with VR porn
It's impossible to adjust eye distance after the footage is shot. If you are someone like me who has, as it seems, abnormal eye distance, the experience from these videos is not going to be amazing. You can't also move arond or tilt your head and when you look too far to the sides, the eye distance, again, is wrong.

Maybe using a video format for VR porn is a dead end and it will be replaced with 3D porn or some scanning technology eventually? Who knows...

I think games work on VR so much better because of the feedback and interactivity. Beat saber is the killer aplication for VR right now. It's so much fun!
VR porn was, on the other hand, bit of a disappoitment.

SC vs HC
For me the HC POV videos don't work at all because the lack of feedback breaks the immersion immidiately. From what I've tried, simple videos of girls dancing or stripping will probably work better for CH videos?

Editing
Editing VR videos turns out to be really fun. Some of the techniques and effects don't work at all in VR. It's like learning new way to edit from a scratch. The only issue here is that with my 7 years old PC, the render times are absolutely horrible. :lol:

Beat meter
I've tried to think about how to implement a beat meter but nothing seems to work very well. I've decided to use only easy to hear beat sound. The downside is that it might get annoying after a while.

I guess in a perfect world, the best solution would be a video player that could overlay beat meter generated from a time stamps on the bottom of your view. That way it would be there no matter where you are looking at the moment. It could also show up only when the beat change happens so it wouldn't take away from the immersion. I can dream...

What now?
Now I'm about 50/50 undecided whether this has a potential.
Let me know whether you would love to see a whole VR CH video like this from me.



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Delicious Lesson

Have you ever secretly wondered what it’s like to give a blowjob? Luckily for you, Venera will gladly share her expertise and guide you on your journey of sexual exploration. But first, you will have to watch and learn.
Now, get on your knees and let her help you discover things you might never knew about yourself.



Video: 1.3GB, 5K, MKX200 FOV
Length: 6:24
Tags: bi-encouragement, slight-but loving degradation, gloryhole blowjobs, 3rd person view
Starring: Venera Maxima
Voice-over: Meana Wolf
Music: Adam Freeland - Burn the Clock
Download link 5K HEVC: https://mega.nz/file/RV11HRDB#Stb3hNGyJ ... HnX82ZCM2Y
Download link 4K AVC: https://mega.nz/file/Yc0SyDQJ#d3Ie9sfqv ... CbosvFIjkg


Commentary / lessons learned:
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I went for little bit more dynamic and quicker cuts between mostly two points of view. I think it turned up pretty well, and I’ll be less scared to do quicker cuts and jump around the scene. The only time when it doesn’t work very well is when the area where the viewer is looking differs considerably between the scenes.


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One Sweet Afternoon

Have you been a bit stressed out lately? Has life been hard on you?
Why don’t you take a break, relax and spend your afternoon with lovely DollyQ? She will help you release all that pent-up tension in an experience that you’ll remember for the rest of your life.



Length: 16:03
Tags: striptease, voice-over, JOI, countdown, lingerie
Starring: DollyQ
Voice-over: SubmissiveCandy123 (from r/gonewildaudio)
Music: FM-84 - Atlas (Interlude), FM-84 - Breathe, FM-84 - Atlas (Original), FM-84 - Everything
Download links:
5K HEVC High quality: https://mega.nz/file/xYsCHApR#BNqAP7bVX ... hMWnL0qJFM
4K AVC Medium quality: https://mega.nz/file/xZkngZ4b#W-qQ55jef ... 9BPK1jlXKQ
Streaming version:
4K Low quality: https://spankbang.com/70ce8/video/one+s ... experience



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Trapped

You wished to meet Ariana?
Then buckle down and get ready to be warped into a different plane of time and reality.
A world where you will be teased relentlessly. A place where all your guilty pleasures will be fulfilled.
But beware, once you will step into this realm, there is no escaping her.



Length: 5:24
Tags: striptease, lingerie
Starring: ArianaQ
Music: Matrix & Futurebound - Rat Trap
Download links:
5K HEVC High quality: https://mega.nz/file/cd1SySKB#Q1cOQNlb4 ... 2BgAqGhpOc
4K AVC Medium quality: https://mega.nz/file/FQ8iXSaZ#69UaUWIEL ... W48ks6dMOU
Streaming version:
4K Low quality: Comming soon
Funscript: https://mega.nz/file/lYcziboA#MmqovQ3_9 ... Bzj0Vj9T-Y
Last edited by Pseudonym on Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:29 pm, edited 13 times in total.
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Gave it a go, but i don´t have VR, so i used a VR Player instead and i must say, i would love to see a full ch out of this, absolutly could see a whole CH focused on Girls dancing up close, maybe throwing some whispers at your ears tempting you to fail, even with just a VR Player and no real VR setup it was a great experience :-)
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Pseudonym wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:43 pm
I own Rift S and although it's pretty impressive technology, it just barely passes as a usable product for me. It will require couple of more generation before VR could be (maybe?) an amazing experience?
The leap from Rift/Rift S to Quest 2 is astonishingly better. Very crisp. I'd recommend selling your Rift S and getting a $200 Quest2 if you can. It's superior in every way, especially with wireless connection to your PC.
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What's HC and SC?

And I'm all for adding more CH to VR - Still some of the best CH experiences I had. Especially if you are a bit intoxicated so you forget about the details and is just along for the ride :-P
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meowww wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:02 am Gave it a go, but i don´t have VR, so i used a VR Player instead and i must say, i would love to see a full ch out of this, absolutly could see a whole CH focused on Girls dancing up close, maybe throwing some whispers at your ears tempting you to fail, even with just a VR Player and no real VR setup it was a great experience :-)
Thank you. The whispers are a great idea!
brewster wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:34 am The leap from Rift/Rift S to Quest 2 is astonishingly better. Very crisp. I'd recommend selling your Rift S and getting a $200 Quest2 if you can. It's superior in every way, especially with wireless connection to your PC.
Long time no see brewster! :wave:
Interesting, the Quest 2 specs sure do look better. Only the FOV seems to be actually 10 degrees lower. :weep:

I'll do more research on what's awailable and maybe wait for the next generation.
Ymerdrengen wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:32 am What's HC and SC?
Hardcore and softcore.
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Pseudonym wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:43 pm
Issues with VR porn
It's impossible to adjust eye distance after the footage is shot. If you are someone like me who has, as it seems, abnormal eye distance, the experience from these videos is not going to be amazing. You can't also move arond or tilt your head and when you look too far to the sides, the eye distance, again, is wrong.

Maybe using a video format for VR porn is a dead end and it will be replaced with 3D porn or some scanning technology eventually? Who knows...

I think games work on VR so much better because of the feedback and interactivity. Beat saber is the killer aplication for VR right now. It's so much fun!
VR porn was, on the other hand, bit of a disappoitment.
Hi! I'm glad another person is getting into this. I feel that going from games to VR porn might be a downgrade, but consider that going from regular non VR porn to VR porn is an upgrade. The first time I saw some pov in VR, I ... almost lost it right away.

SC vs HC
For me the HC POV videos don't work at all because the lack of feedback breaks the immersion immidiately. From what I've tried, simple videos of girls dancing or stripping will probably work better for CH videos?
As per above, the immersion for pov for me was a shock. While its far from perfect, it's much better if the right people produce it. Between the different companies in the space, you'll either start to notice or develop a preference for certain angles and positions that just work the best for this immersion. The killer thing for me is good eye contact. I find the japanese videos tend to do this just a bit better. The girls get a little more up in your face and they invade your personal bubble just a bit better.

As for a CH, I've noticed that if you're trying for immersion, because of the greater differences between position and angles between videos, perhaps a way to tie them together a bit is to find videos from the same company to set your chapters. As you've said, if your eyes need to refocus or reposition between clips, it's going to break immersion. Likewise, you group up sections for solo or interactive, positions, etc. This will undoubtedly make the video selection many orders harder.

As for feedback, there's funscripts and e-stims that at least this forum is getting into that will enhance the experience.
Editing
Editing VR videos turns out to be really fun. Some of the techniques and effects don't work at all in VR. It's like learning new way to edit from a scratch. The only issue here is that with my 7 years old PC, the render times are absolutely horrible. :lol:

Beat meter
I've tried to think about how to implement a beat meter but nothing seems to work very well. I've decided to use only easy to hear beat sound. The downside is that it might get annoying after a while.

I guess in a perfect world, the best solution would be a video player that could overlay beat meter generated from a time stamps on the bottom of your view. That way it would be there no matter where you are looking at the moment. It could also show up only when the beat change happens so it wouldn't take away from the immersion. I can dream...

What now?
Now I'm about 50/50 undecided whether this has a potential.
Let me know whether you would love to see a whole VR CH video like this from me.
It definitely has potential, but the work looks pretty hard. I'm sure you've noticed, but there's a couple others who've done some nice work and each person who came along seemed to have progressively made it better than the other :) I think it was ebhan's video who had a nice beatmeter on the side.

@Desertfox, @Ebhan
viewtopic.php?p=262892
viewtopic.php?t=23005
viewtopic.php?p=293286

Personally, when I'm going through these, beatmeters do not matter much as I tend to sway from it anyway. And if there's a funscript/e-stim driving it, the beatmeter becomes a little moot.

And of course, I would love to see a whole nother VR CH video!

thanks for even thinking about it!
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I dont want to be mean but your test video lacks content to test.

Its just a short strip with one scene and music overlay.
- With 2 scenes we could give feedback on the POV and FOV.
- with movement we could talk about motion sickness
- With a beatmeter we could talk about positioning
- With HC content, immersion would be something to talk about.
but one scene, one angle and nothing else is just not enough to give feedback on.
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Vinc wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:33 pm I dont want to be mean but your test video lacks content to test.

Its just a short strip with one scene and music overlay.
- With 2 scenes we could give feedback on the POV and FOV.
- with movement we could talk about motion sickness
- With a beatmeter we could talk about positioning
- With HC content, immersion would be something to talk about.
but one scene, one angle and nothing else is just not enough to give feedback on.
I mean... this is actually helpful feedback too. :lol:

I agree that what I did is very basic and might be boring. I was mainly concerned with learning how to work with VR footage and encoding settings.
I might try to experiment with multiple scenes and movement next.

At least it's good to know that people were able to play the video and there were no technical issues mentioned so far.
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Hey nice to see you are looking into VR!

I have mostly switched to VR porn now instead of 2d unless its CH now a days. How I watched the 3d when it was new vs how I watched it now is much different. At first I tried to get into the position of the male and tried to pretend it was me, but now I mostly just watch it in my 2d mode but that I'm watching something with more fidelity.

To me the most powerful scenes are where the actress gets very close to the camera, the kissing, or even better binural recorded instances where they get in your ear and whisper things. Most JAV does this very well in the beginning but they go censored later on which ruins it, but still they do the early on foreplay / getting close stuff extremely well.

For solo content I think stripzvr.com is the best, followed by stassq. Stassyq's problem is they move the camera around a lot, and their early videos have odd formats and don't always look correct. Stripsz really nails it IMHO with girl choice, quality, and camera angles. But if they girls or camera don't get close it can really take away some of the best parts of VR imho.

Also I agree that off center of VR it is warped, they have to keep the action near the center of the dome. The studios that put it off to the side tend to be smaller/newer to vr imho.

So editing I think is tricky, i've only done the hypnosis vr videos and learned a lot each time. I found that the slow crossfade is super good, like 3X what you'd normally put in, especially when going for a trippy/hypnotic feeling. Even slow motion is quite powerful IMHO for that feeling getting that zoned out feel. I found it wasn't too jaring to swap positions too often, just have to give the person time to pan their head in a new direction. That said, staying in a same position for a longer phase of the video can be effective as well.

There was also a tendency to edit so that you stay on one long shot for a while, but honestly it was totally fine to jump around as much as a typical CH scene without losing much.

For doing text/beat meter, there is a vr cock hero on here that has both, you can use an effect in the video editor that'll warp it to the 3d plane so it won't be jaring 2d text. However ,I think you could get away with voice commands from a narrator. Maybe for some of the trickier beats like a 5-1, 7-7 etc you could have a training session in the beginning, but really it's very similar to most CH where the beat meter fades out after giving you the heads up for the change.

One thing I think that doesn't translate well are fast cuts. Because the viewing area is very big, the user can be looking up or down and then a 1 sec cut is not enough time for them to figure out where to look before it's gone again. They can work but I think you have to be really certain the person is looking the right way. I do think that this can be played with as well, like a camera shot from below looking up will most likely have the person looking up in VR, so you can swap to another scene where you can take advantage of that and maybe want them to start high and look downards to shift them into a laying down position or something similar.

I really thought a blue magic style CH on vr would be really awesome. My favorite part of that is the kendall reward sequence where you set her up as a reward and then jump around, by that point in the video you are really teased up, so when she appears on screen and walks up to you and it starts a POV sequence it really draws me in. I imagine something like that but using the advantage of VR with the women getting super close to you and engaging you much more personally than the 2d sequences.

Finally, some models just look better/worse in 2d. It's sort of interesting, but I've definitely had preferences for a person in 2d over 3d and visa versa so you never quite know what you'll end up liking.

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Straight 3d related you should check out virt-a-mate if you get a chance. It can be extremely hard to get a scene working and the workflow is not great. It's not terrible, and many plugins exist to help, but still can be eh. However it's the best 3d sex scene maker out there, and there is a large community (hub.virtamate.com) making free scenes of good quality. Where it really shines is to use something like facegentool or a while back there was a free tool that will help you get a face into someone using 2d photos of various angles. Dropping that look into an existing scene is a totally unique and powerful experience. I think that in a few more years it'll be much better but it's still something to behold right now. Even better if you try to replicate a scene from something from your past that you experienced or wanted to experience, it's pretty amazing and worth a look.
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brewster wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:34 am
Pseudonym wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:43 pm
I own Rift S and although it's pretty impressive technology, it just barely passes as a usable product for me. It will require couple of more generation before VR could be (maybe?) an amazing experience?
The leap from Rift/Rift S to Quest 2 is astonishingly better. Very crisp. I'd recommend selling your Rift S and getting a $200 Quest2 if you can. It's superior in every way, especially with wireless connection to your PC.
Is this the Quest 2 the one that requires a Facebook signed in thing? I think i remember that being the case, and why i had no desire to purchase or use it.

If it's not Quest 2, then it's another similar device for about the same cost.
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Tittyluvr1334 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:43 pm
brewster wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:34 am
Pseudonym wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:43 pm
I own Rift S and although it's pretty impressive technology, it just barely passes as a usable product for me. It will require couple of more generation before VR could be (maybe?) an amazing experience?
The leap from Rift/Rift S to Quest 2 is astonishingly better. Very crisp. I'd recommend selling your Rift S and getting a $200 Quest2 if you can. It's superior in every way, especially with wireless connection to your PC.
Is this the Quest 2 the one that requires a Facebook signed in thing? I think i remember that being the case, and why i had no desire to purchase or use it.

If it's not Quest 2, then it's another similar device for about the same cost.
All oculus devices need facebook. Just use a fake account with a new one-time mail address.
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Vinc wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:20 pm
Tittyluvr1334 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:43 pm
brewster wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:34 am

The leap from Rift/Rift S to Quest 2 is astonishingly better. Very crisp. I'd recommend selling your Rift S and getting a $200 Quest2 if you can. It's superior in every way, especially with wireless connection to your PC.
Is this the Quest 2 the one that requires a Facebook signed in thing? I think i remember that being the case, and why i had no desire to purchase or use it.

If it's not Quest 2, then it's another similar device for about the same cost.
All oculus devices need facebook. Just use a fake account with a new one-time mail address.
I heard horror stories (cannot verify) that people using fake accts on FB got their VR system disrupted and was unable to use it at all.
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I agree with a lot of the limitations you mention about VR video - and that's why I don't watch a lot.
I enjoy VR content, but I do find HC content difficult to get into (even when scripted with hardware like the handy) because when hands appear, they're not mine (or where mine are), and there are usually other contact points which don't match up - like thighs.

So I stick to SC stuff (that's my preference anyway). I enjoyed Cock Hero VR Solo, and I'm sure I would love something crafted by your excellent hand.

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for anyone who wants to try it scripted. Cock Heroine isn't really designed for playing VR videos, but you can export to a funscript with whatever settings you select in the preferences (half speed/full speed, choose a range etc.)
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I put all porn to a cell phone be goggles and it’s so immersive all focus is on the visuals and earplugs push it as well. VR 180’ is a must but I’ve orgasmed with a good poppers throat bang the Finisher real easy.
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