ESTIM : The Milgram Experiment

[petka11]

Is there still place for beta testers?

have 2B

[Electro]

EDIT/Follow up: Ignore this post, files that didn't work well with DIY devices have been removed and a custom mode for volume level adjustment has been implemented.


Perhaps the audio and its levels are predictable and make sense with a MK312 or ET312B, but with a DIY device I would definitely NOT recommend using bondage until a few things are sorted out with this tease.

Also 10% volume can't be felt and climbing up to 100% volume when calibrated to 10% is not something that works well with most Estim devices. It's more common to have a range of 70% and a much more gradual climb to 100% for pain, perhaps 50% would be the start for pleasure and I'm sure even then the mercy button would be clicked well before getting to the 100% pain level. This tease cannot be played with most devices in its current state without having access to the volume knob and having someone tie themselves up before starting is irresponsible with this small amount of testing.

The waveforms of some of the audio files can't be felt on a DIY device, some others are extremely painful and not compatible because many of the files aren't standard symmetrical waveforms or have very low frequency file(down to 5hz with a sawtooth waveform in one case!). I thought you were going to have an audio testing function so I could point out which files should be changed out and I was waiting for that so I could compile a list of what works and what doesn't.

I was just about to try to be more careful with my words and try to put things together so they would make the most sense for what I found while beta testing, but it looks like you just released this tease much earlier than I expected, so I need to get my words out quickly so things can be fixed sooner and warn others before they wire up, tie up, and potentially not be able to turn things off when they get an unexpected result.

I'll post another response soon with spelling/grammar fixes for English, but figured this part was more important to get out quickly.

[sevenofnine]

Hi
Have added warning for DIY . can you (or other person) send me compatible sound files for DIY ?. i need around 20 for pleasure (length minimum 45s), 20 for pain(length minimum 45s) , and 20 for questions(length minimum 90s) (they are selected randomly , and EOS does not allow to know the sound name ,or to select it dynamically , but must find a solution (extreme many if...can work).

thanks for your feedback.

[Electro]

EDIT: Went through and tested the files and identified the ones that need to be removed and sent them to sevenofnine.

[Electro]

For files that do work that are good for independent channels, the ones from tintin119 estim clinic work well, you might see those in the same collection you found the ones you are using now. I see you have some of the Andrus files in there and those are great. There are good pleasure audio files in Rillos tease but I don't know where to find those, Mantrid has a huge collection of files he generated himself that work with independent channels too, although his files are designed to be used without turning up the volume because the files do that going up each level on their own, so if you used those you'd want to use all the same level of files like n2, v2 and the lowest level of the x files(pain). viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21864

The trouble is that for pleasure and pain the volume range you have is too much. Even a 20% increase from 70% to 90% from mild pleasure can start to be painful and for pain if it's already painful, going up another 20% from 70 to 90% is really high. Starting from 10% can be worse because 20% is double what 10% is and 40% is 4x what 10 is. I suggested starting 50% for pleasure and question, 70% for pain, use smaller increases compared to what is used now to make up the difference and the mercy button can bring things down as needed, perhaps from using it and with feedback the tease could adjust from there.

[qwksilver]

Looking at the available settings, I think a custom option would be ideal.
choose number of questions
power range 1
pain range
please range
mercy value pain
mercy value pleasure
duration of transition pauses
it would allow each player to integrate his machine and tolerances much better.

[Electro]

Looking at the available settings, I think a custom option would be ideal.
choose number of questions
power range 1
pain range
please range
mercy value pain
mercy value pleasure
duration of transition pauses
it would allow each player to integrate his machine and tolerances much better.

This seems to be the ideal way to do this, the Estim Bondage tease does this same thing and it's effective.

[Babyface1]

are someone tryied it with 2 b unit ?

[qwksilver]

I would add that saving settings by username would be equally desirable, with a notice on the main screen what settings are active. I also noticed a preview of the custom settings mentioned, is there a hidden beta mode for that, and if so I volunteer as tribute, feel free to pm any instructions on how to participate. thanks.

ps, great tease, 5*, so much potential here, my first play through was ruination at it's best, the custom will let me really tune it in and get my hands off the dial.

[Electro]

Thanks for removing the bad files, it looks like the easy/medium/hard difficulty screen still says it starts at 10%.
I have some spelling/grammar stuff that I need to put together for you too, I will send along when I finish.

I would add that saving settings by username would be equally desirable, with a notice on the main screen what settings are active. I also noticed a preview of the custom settings mentioned, is there a hidden beta mode for that, and if so I volunteer as tribute, feel free to pm any instructions on how to participate. thanks.

ps, great tease, 5*, so much potential here, my first play through was ruination at it's best, the custom will let me really tune it in and get my hands off the dial.

Correction done: V1.08 2021/01/29
- Wrong sound files removed
- All starting power set to 20%
- Prevision of custom setup. Need time to write it!/quote]
I think for now it's testing in production and probably just hidden/incomplete. I'm happy that it's being put together though.

[sevenofnine]

Bad sound files removed
Custom setting done

The Mistresses are vicious and she tries to make you lose.
Many questions are therefore impossible to answer like clothespins, or simply too complicated. the goal of the Mistresses are to force you to use as much MERCY as possible.
It is therefore normal for the power level to start small, to increase as the test progresses, and thus become harder and harder. There are currently 15 series of 9 questions, of which about 80 questions can be found after several attempts.

thanks for your feedback

[otto_dix]

I really like the premise. wondering how this can be adapted to a selfbondage option.

How can we provide responses while hands tied and STILL be unable to shut down the program or adjust the volume.

Perhaps multiple choice questions and a single button peripheral? One press for option A, two for option B....15 seconds to respond.

Anyone else have any ideas?

[Electro]

EDIT 2/1/2021: I confirmed this bug has been fixed. Custom mode works like it should

I tested the custom setting and everything jumped to 100% after the first round for some reason. It also says 20% pain level when
in the settings even when I was trying to set a higher initial number.

[Electro]

EDIT 2/1/2021: I confirmed this bug has been fixed. Custom mode works like it should

I ran it again today and custom mode went to 100% after the first question was answered correctly, I had default increment and started pleasure at 50% I think. I realized that I was seeing 20% for the pain level after trying to put in 80% as the start level yesterday because I learned max levels for initial power is 79%, I really don't need to start out that high anyway. It seems to work fine as long as I use the easy, medium, or hard like normal.

I sent suggested updates for spelling/grammar to sevenofnine, so readability should be looking better once he has a chance to review everything.

[Electro]

Thanks for putting the updated spelling/grammar in place. I made a full run using custom mode and everything works great!
This is a lot of fun to play! It's also my kind of porn too.