New Chat (and Temporary Chat) Discussion

[Oda]

Want to contribute something to the discussion or just want to attack Jen and the user from the chat?

Sure... there is a clique and please tell me, what is wrong or unnatural with that. People talk with peiple they know and like. It is never easy to get into a community, but is it impossible? No it´s not. I had the same problems at the beginning, but i managed to change this.

To the second part... i don´t see why an admin should reply on this. Your post has nothing to do with the topic, neither this has anything to do with Jens quality as an admin. So an answer from the office is not really necessary.

it wasnt so much an attack as a question of blatant misrepresentation by someone whos supposed to be trustworthy and dependable. if you cant trust him/her to be who him/her is, then how can you trust anything he/she represents? to me its just another indication of how the dominant women on this site are catered to, apprently even by admins. whether they actually are dominant women or not. in a world where perception is paramount how can you believe the actions of an administrator are honorable when they blatantly misrepresent themselves and who they claim to be. they are deceiving every single person who comes in and talks to them, even down to the profile page. the admissions of who jen really is are hidden among the chaff which is probaly what he was going for when he admitted it. he can claim honorable intentions saying i was up front about it while the majority of the people remain blissfully ignorant.

does it make him a bad admin? no. does it make him dishonest? you bet. and to that, i most wholeheartedly think that a response from the admin is justified. leaders should be held to a higher standard.

Does your post make any sense? No.

Does this Thread has anything to do with Jen and her gender? No.

Does this make her dishonest? No.

It´s pretty simple... that is her private thing. Every person can decide, which information the person want to share and with who.That doesn´t effect her abilities as a admin, so there is no need for an official answer and i am pretty sure you have some secrets too! Nobody shares everything with everyone and there is no reason she would have to. And ylou can believe me one thing... it was an attack ;)

[wanker]

Why isn't IRC considered?

We did work on implementing a IRC-based chat before we settled on 123flashchat (the chat we had for the last couple of years.) The problem with IRC was that there weren't any good web-based clients. The user integration was a total pain, authentication in IRC is usually done via bots so you just ended up with a lot of complexity very quickly.

So if you ask me today to compare the two, IRC is a pretty old protocol which means it's very robust, but a lot of features have been "tacked on" over time, so it's a bit awkward at times. I would use it if I was looking to build a large scale chat network. IRC scales well thanks to its multicast distribution layer.

XMPP on the other hand is leaner and more lightweight for running a small chatroom like we're doing. It's also better as a backend for a webchat, with built-in browser API support, more web-based client choices and a powerful presence API. That allows for some exciting possibilities in the long run, for example we could integrate it with the forum and have a facebook-esque instant messaging system.

Thank you JP and Serapj0x for the prompt replies. I guess I am not sure why the chat has to be web based but I will let it rest.