FB: The Estim Tower

[GoblinMan]

Welcome to the party! Here are a couple of pointers.

It's a long, shallow learning curve. You're probably going to get frustrated and put it down and wonder what the hell everyone is making a big fuss about, and then you'll pick it up and get a setting or two right and go 'ohhhhh, THAT's what they're talking about'. And it only gets better from there.

I'd highly recommend getting some conductive rubber loops. They're incredibly versatile and, if you're handy, you can get a decent length and just cut it to size for your liking. I picked up the 8mm thick with some 12mm spring clamps and used a dremel to chamfer the ends down to a size that would fit in the clamps. It took some trial and error, and you can buy them completely pre-made to save the hassle.

I'm also a fan of some of the conductive cloths 'tubes' that are out there. They spread out the stimulation a lot more and are remarkably stretchy when wet. I haven't seen a lot of others mention these, so I may be in the minority here.

As for tri-phase, there are cables that are sold as 'tri-phase cables' and they're crazy expensive for what they are. Unless someone here can tell me why I'm wrong, all a tri-phase cable is is a cable with your positive leads going from your two positives on your e-stim device to the two positive electrodes, with the 2 negatives going from the e-stim device to a common negative electrode. I just hacked off the ends of some pads and some tens leads, soldered (or even just twisted and electrical taped) two female to one male lead to make a male-female splitter, and use that from my e-stim leads to combine the two negatives down to a single lead. Alternatively, if you're using loops, you can plug the two negative leads into the two ends of your loop to get a very similar effect.

And, as always, I'll add my final piece of advice; take it slowly. It's better to feel nothing at all than to feel you zapping your junk WAY too much.

Here's a couple of sites that specialize in e-Stim stuff. They're not very sophisticated sites, but they ship fast and have never let me down. There's also a rapidly increasing selection available on Amazon.
(I have no affiliation with either site below other than being a happy customer)

happystim-usa.com

currentpleasures.com/

Wow, thanks for the detailed reply! You've given me plenty to think about. For starters, I'll definitely be picking up some some conductive rubber loops for now. Something like this should be good right?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Conductive-R ... 8HC2&psc=1

Also, it seems that I had completely misunderstood how triphase works, it's a lot simpler than I thought. You're right, the cables do seem very expensive for what they are, a DIY solution seems like a good idea.

Thanks for the help

[BoundSquirrel]

Also, it seems that I had completely misunderstood how triphase works, it's a lot simpler than I thought. You're right, the cables do seem very expensive for what they are, a DIY solution seems like a good idea.

Either that, or I've been misunderstanding triphase for the last couple of years since I started down the estim path and I'm about to learn something new!

As for the loops, that's a pretty slick setup you found. Yes that will work. My only gripe is that the connectors keep the two sides separate. That means that the whole signal will go linearly from the 2mm connector around the loop. If you've got it straight up when attached to you, you may feel the signal more on one side than the other. I prefer connectors that allow the two sides of the loop to touch so that the signal bleeds from the 2mm connector to the other side of the loop before it goes all the way around. I use the 12mm flat ones linked below. I'm sure they're available cheaper elsewhere.

https://www.currentpleasures.com/collec ... ock-single

[otto_dix]

Unread post by GoblinMan » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:08 pm

Hey all, I've recently got my first estim device, a 3rdh. I've only got the pads and cables that it came with (two cables and four TENS pads). How would you recommend I set up for this tease without triphase?

And a related question, if I wanted to use triphase, what else would I need to buy? Would I need a special cable, or is there an adapter I could use instead? If an adapter works, I assume I'd need a third cable, but what exactly would I need to look at for this?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm totaly new to this, and thanks for your time!

I use two conductive loops and a long TENS pad. I prefer the metal loops. I use the Tens pad as the common ground, and apply it between my anus and scrotum. It stimulates my prostate well there. I use the other two loops on my penis, with channel B at the base of my cock, and Channel A just under the head.

I use a 2B, and we all know that it has some firmware issues with stereo-stim feeds and does not do justice to punishment files in the milovana teases like the ones found in Estim Tower. I will either buy another or build one. Please let us know your experience with the 3rdh.

[GoblinMan]

I use two conductive loops and a long TENS pad. I prefer the metal loops. I use the Tens pad as the common ground, and apply it between my anus and scrotum. It stimulates my prostate well there. I use the other two loops on my penis, with channel B at the base of my cock, and Channel A just under the head.

I use a 2B, and we all know that it has some firmware issues with stereo-stim feeds and does not do justice to punishment files in the milovana teases like the ones found in Estim Tower. I will either buy another or build one. Please let us know your experience with the 3rdh.

I've only had the 3rdh for a few days,and it's my first experience with estim, so I might not be the best person to review anything right now to be honest. I've had a little play with some of the pain files in Estim Chatroom, and they don't feel particularly painful, but that's probably down to not having found the right setup for me yet. I've seen a couple of posts here saying they're getting good results from the 3rdh, but I don't think anyone's posted their exact settings,so I'll just keep experimenting for now.

I've got some conductive rubber loops ariving in a week or two, pending post-brexit imports, so I'll have a go at The Estim Tower once they arive and I can use a triphase setup. I'll try and remember to post an update then.

[Tedlington9099]

Hi GoblinMan,

I also have a 3rdH so can probably help a little ...

Joanne Summers offers some excellent advice on trode positioning and a few other tips ...
https://www.sexmachinereviews.co.uk

Have sent a P.M.

[TheHenchmen]

Well, I should have read this thread first.

clearly, endless mode is sort of an error. I always tried endless mode to buzz along happily, but I just didn´t get the story. And I had the following problem:
The loudness was always all over the place. I was adjusting the intensity on my device most of the time.
After some runs, I got a HFO during a pain sequence.

No I clearly understand that I need to play the normal mode to understand the plot and connection between the scenes.

[TheHenchmen]

After playing through the normal tower, I realize that the stim files in endless mode seem to be better somehow.

- The pain files are "smoother" and feel more like intentional hits/shocks.
- some stim sequences have bad "spikes" in between. So the tease is all like "enjoy" and I´m like: "aaaahhhhh..... OW! aaaaaaahhhh.... OW!"

reviewing the tease, I realize that the review sequence in the end of each girl could use a simple feedback system to judge the stims used in the sequence.

So the options are
"I came" -> Ending the game
"Pain"-> go to mistress for extra points

but I think the first question should be "how was it?"
- Good, thank you (no affect on the selection of stim files)
- I didn´t like it! (stim files of past scene are more likely to be used as punishment)
- I almost came (stim files of past scene are more likely to be used to push the player over the edge)

Ironically, some of the mistress "punishment" sections served me better than the "enjoy" sequences. So when the mistress wanted to make me fail/tap out, I was more like "please don´t let this end". And when I met caprice at the end, it was completely not enjoyable.

Clearly this requires me to look into the modding thread.

[Electro]

- The pain files are "smoother" and feel more like intentional hits/shocks.
- some stim sequences have bad "spikes" in between. So the tease is all like "enjoy" and I´m like: "aaaahhhhh..... OW! aaaaaaahhhh.... OW!"
....
but I think the first question should be "how was it?"
- Good, thank you (no affect on the selection of stim files)
- I didn´t like it! (stim files of past scene are more likely to be used as punishment)
- I almost came (stim files of past scene are more likely to be used to push the player over the edge)
....
Ironically, some of the mistress "punishment" sections served me better than the "enjoy" sequences. So when the mistress wanted to make me fail/tap out, I was more like "please don´t let this end". And when I met caprice at the end, it was completely not enjoyable.

Clearly this requires me to look into the modding thread.

What device are you using?
Where are your electrodes?

It sounds like you are using a device not compatible with this tease, or you are putting your common in the wrong place causing tri-phase effects to be painful instead of feeling like movement. Using common in an anal or perineum electrode position doesn't usually feel so great in my experience.

This tease isn't going to change outside of the modding environment because Nyx is now done for and any attempt to change a Flashtease could break the tease(if it's actually possible to try right now).

The "normal" pain files do that to me too, the harsh ones have enough "off time" so they aren't as likely to get me off.

[TheHenchmen]

I´m using a diy stereostim. I know that this is not the ideal device for this tease.

I am not using a triphase as it is not recommended in the setup.

generally, I think the tease is nice, but suffers from certain monotony.
Comparing it to other teases I like to play, (Laboratory, Milgram, Chatroom)it feels rather monotonous. I feel like the other teases offer more diversity.

I like the aspect of the challenge, but as the game progresses, if feels like more of a drag than a challenge.
Maybe I´m jaded as the "reward" at the end was a stim sequence that was not satisfactory at all.

[Electro]

I´m using a diy stereostim. I know that this is not the ideal device for this tease.

Incorrect, it was built for DIY StereoStim.

I am not using a triphase as it is not recommended in the setup.

Yes it is.

generally, I think the tease is nice, but suffers from certain monotony.

Comparing it to other teases I like to play, (Laboratory, Milgram, Chatroom)it feels rather monotonous. I feel like the other teases offer more diversity.

It will be monotonous if you don't use tri-phase because the stim will lose a majority of its character.

I like the aspect of the challenge, but as the game progresses, if feels like more of a drag than a challenge.
Maybe I´m jaded as the "reward" at the end was a stim sequence that was not satisfactory at all.

Apparently you glossed over this causing the entire tease to not be experienced as intended:
"You need a sound based e-stim device for this tease!
Recommended setup: Tri-Phase
Channel placement as desired."

Try again, you might enjoy it.

[TheHenchmen]

Thanks, I will.

[TheHenchmen]

Tied it again, quite a blissfull expirience.
Setup used was Triphase cock/Ass and Balls/Ass

similar to past playthroughs, the pain sections really pushed me to the edge, but I was a bit burned out after all these rounds that I was unable to cum in the end.
I will use the code to try the girls I haven´t met yet.

[qwksilver]

My best setup on this tease is head(a)/base(c)/balls(b)
for balls i either use a gummy ballsring to tighten the skin and put a pad on directly or
use a cr loop that is fixed up to only allow underballs about a 1" section to be conductive
fixed up with non conductive heat shrink or electrical tape

[whaappen1968]

Hi GoblinMan,

I also have a 3rdH so can probably help a little ...

Joanne Summers offers some excellent advice on trode positioning and a few other tips ...
https://www.sexmachinereviews.co.uk

Have sent a P.M.

I have a 2B and am thinking of buying a 3rdH. I note the leads it comes with have the little jacks on the end, I'm hoping I can use it direct with the electrodes I have which all need the larger jack. Does anyone know if the output sockets on the 3rdH are the same as the 2B? If so, I can just use the leads that came with that,

The 2B is excellent at some things, and for me, the Estim Tower actually works better than some of the teases designed around the 2B, some of the effects are amazing once I've got the electrodes right, but some of the pain files just don't work at all, as we know (some do and are very painful if the 2B is set high enough).

My other query about the 3rdH is the battery life, Estim Tower can be very long when played on the harder modes and I do have concerns about the battery going. Can you use it plugged in so the battery keeps charging while in use?

[Tedlington9099]

Hi whaappen1968,

Good news and not so good news ...
Yes the output sockets on the 3rdH can utilise your 2B leads ... I actually swapped my end leads to 4mm Banana plugs which worked out brilliantly as you can also make up a lead to easily join outputs for tri-phase effects. It is worth doing as I find the 3rdH cables are very high quality and improve signals. I also found 4mm to 2mm adapters on the web (same as EStim Systems advertise but around half the price).
There is no comparison between the two units when you play Tower and other Stim games which include pain files and are not tuned specifically for the 2B ... some people think the 3rdH is a bit low on power but it depends whether you are a pain slut or not. Personally I find it OK.
My unit is almost two years old and the battery is still holding a charge well ... depending on the size of your trodes and the volume you require it lasts 6-8 hrs ... unfortunately there is a cut out to prevent use whilst charging (don't know if it could be modified) ... It is meant to be returned to the manufacturer when it eventually dies.
There is quite a steep learning curve to get the best from the 3rdH but there is no comparison between the two when it comes to playing sound files or games ... 2B maybe 6/10 ... 3rdH at least 9/10.