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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1), by Indyc

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I feel like this could have been one of the best teases ever with a few small changes in the way things flowed. As others mentioned, the freezing was more than a little annoying, and there was no way to save progress, which meant having to start all over again and go through the unnecessarily long intro section. The tease itself was pretty well-written, and the concept was great, so I hope you continue to work on it. Here are a few suggestions:

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1. Less unnecessary pauses between page changes.
2. Buttons to allow you to skip through intro section
3. Add some indication/instructions for when you're supposed to be stroking throughout the encounters like Succubus's aura affects you so strongly that you can't help pleasuring yourself, etc. or at least have the succubi tell you to do it. I know it's a fairly minor detail, but it's something I think would add a lot more immersion to the tease.
4. Some form of progress saving mechanic, whether by password, or just an ability to jump to various sections without having to redo the entire tease.
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Tease is incredible, excellent work :love:
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r0nin47 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:35 am I feel like this could have been one of the best teases ever with a few small changes in the way things flowed. As others mentioned, the freezing was more than a little annoying, and there was no way to save progress, which meant having to start all over again and go through the unnecessarily long intro section. The tease itself was pretty well-written, and the concept was great, so I hope you continue to work on it. Here are a few suggestions:

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1. Less unnecessary pauses between page changes.
2. Buttons to allow you to skip through intro section
3. Add some indication/instructions for when you're supposed to be stroking throughout the encounters like Succubus's aura affects you so strongly that you can't help pleasuring yourself, etc. or at least have the succubi tell you to do it. I know it's a fairly minor detail, but it's something I think would add a lot more immersion to the tease.
4. Some form of progress saving mechanic, whether by password, or just an ability to jump to various sections without having to redo the entire tease.
I feel the same about potential and am working on small changes to flow.

Regarding the freezing fapnip was so kind to help me with making a version that has saves! Also included here are some initial quick balancing, a few timer reductions, fixes to the virginity bug, a few dialog changes:

https://milovana.com/webteases/showteas ... 60da1c6669

I'll upload another official one when the changes are sufficient but please enjoy this one in the meantime.

Thank you so much for the suggestions:
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1. the longest timer page change that is in the game is 5 seconds and there are only 2 or so of them in the entire game. The vast majority are 3 sec. Everything else could be lag. I could see it argued that they slow things down but a bit of that was intentional to some degree to give you the feeling of travel instead of warping around the world. I lowered some of the initial timers and will look into finetuning them for the situation and the number of repeat "traffic" they get.

2. I don't think I want someone to outright skip any section of the actual gameplay due to my attempts to provide lots of variety in paths. If you mean a button to skip some of the intro setup like day, starting addiction etc, I suppose I could make a default button. There is so much variety brought in by those buttons more than probably any other choice in the game so I wouldn't suggest ever pressing such a default if it existed. However, if that is what people want I can add it. I might also be misunderstanding this request.

3. While I don't want to provide a metronome yet (they actually irritate me in other games) I could add more "direction" in how much you should stroke in certain events. I can agree about the immersion especially if the succubi are the ones doing it. I can pull this off but it will take a while.

4. While the save mechanic was just implemented today, I really have to decide whether or not I add any form of skipping. I might have hidden some of the events and options a bit too much but I don't think anyone has realized how much width there is to the game variety in those replays. I have also identified 3 specific areas that could use more variety but it will take a while to add that content.

What I might do is add a counter to how many times you have played the tease. After, 3 or so the skipping feature could be "gained" but I don't want it available to someone in the first 2 plays. I could easily change my mind on this, this is just my current feeling.
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1), by Indyc

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indyc wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:52 am 3. While I don't want to provide a metronome yet (they actually irritate me in other games) I could add more "direction" in how much you should stroke in certain events. I can agree about the immersion especially if the succubi are the ones doing it. I can pull this off but it will take a while.
Good call on not using a metronome. I never use them in any of my teases, because I find the noise distracting.
indyc wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:52 am Regarding the freezing fapnip was so kind to help me with making a version that has saves! Also included here are some initial quick balancing, a few timer reductions, fixes to the virginity bug, a few dialog changes:
I'll have a look at that tonight. Thanks!
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1), by Indyc

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just a really nice piece of interactive art
the choices feel really authentic and less scripted
the mechanics are simple but great
also like that you don't stick to "just teasing" scenes
i probably haven't even seen that much yet - the replay value is quite high
very good job! :wave:
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1), by Indyc

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Amazing tease !!

I played it twice already and want to play it again soon, so this must be really good :love: :love: :love:
Really interactive and lot of freedom to play : 6 Stars for me !

No bug to report

As some others already asked, I would really enjoy a password system or save system, as a run can be long.

And also, maybe a way to get a little bit of soul back at some point ? 1 point while taking a nap, or a shower, for exemple ? or some other actions or special situations :
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during my second play, i played a lot with Anissa. At some point, i got to go down on her. Maybe I could have taken a point back on making her lose a bit of her control on me at this moment ?
Thanks for the great work
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1), by Indyc

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indyc wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:52 am I'll upload another official one when the changes are sufficient but please enjoy this one in the meantime.
As long as there's no breaking changes, I'd just import the new one over the existing one, and re-publish. No real reason not to keep the published version up-to-date.
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1.05), by Indyc

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Thanks for motivating me to keep working on it! ***Version 1.05 posted*** changelog in OP
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1.05), by Indyc

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Could I ask for settings in the beginning to have a more dramatic effect. For instance being very focused around boobs.

I also have a glitch where the look closer button for Kylie stays up the whole game if you don’t look closer.

I also want a easy mode that lets you see all of the game. I feel like I’m very bad at it. I keep dying, can’t get to a good ending.

it’s a excellent game thank you so much for making it.
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1.05), by Indyc

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Awesome tease! One of the best! I really love the "free" style of stroking and edging. Keep updating this and I think it will make me happy for many hours :D...

I experienced a freeze when offering service to kylie in the bedroom - but only after continuing a run that was already game over via a stray "say goodbye for christmas" or something button that did not vanish as i think it should have. so i dont know if the freeze would have happened on a clean save.

but because of the save feature it didnt matter too much and mhhhh sexy eternity! :D
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Bee4 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:37 am Could I ask for settings in the beginning to have a more dramatic effect. For instance being very focused around boobs.

I also have a glitch where the look closer button for Kylie stays up the whole game if you don’t look closer.

I also want a easy mode that lets you see all of the game. I feel like I’m very bad at it. I keep dying, can’t get to a good ending.

it’s a excellent game thank you so much for making it.
While I would like the addictions in the beginning to have more of an impact I do not know how to execute that yet. It mainly exists there to tell the player that there are addictions right away and to open up some harder to find paths like feet early on. It was an idea I got from the video game Monster Girl Dreams and was a relatively recent addition. I am considering difficulty options after repeat plays but it may be as simple as simply giving you more soul.

Thanks for the feedback, I will look into the Kylie bug, was it during the nap sequence early on?
adictoris wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:45 am I experienced a freeze when offering service to kylie in the bedroom - but only after continuing a run that was already game over via a stray "say goodbye for christmas" or something button that did not vanish as i think it should have. so i dont know if the freeze would have happened on a clean save.

but because of the save feature it didnt matter too much and mhhhh sexy eternity! :D
I sometimes will find stray buttons too despite how many remove button commands I put but will look into the cause of it. The freeze could have been caused by something else, I'll look into it.
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1.05), by Indyc

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The Kylie glitch was when seeing her dress lift up by the wind at the very start and you had the chance to look closer.
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I could use some advice
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So do you have to feed all them a certain amount? I was feeding just the ones I liked most and then it triggered the game over saying I didn't give them enough. It's not clear how to complete the game. I've tried a few times now.
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Kristycookie wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:20 am I could use some advice
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So do you have to feed all them a certain amount? I was feeding just the ones I liked most and then it triggered the game over saying I didn't give them enough. It's not clear how to complete the game. I've tried a few times now.
Sure!
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If any succubus affection drops below 0 it is a game over. I am still deciding if I have set the difficulty right and that will likely change. There is not currently much reason to get any succubus about 3 affection.

As a side hint - if you want to simply get really far, if any succubus is at 0 affection, go midway through their requests. They usually only lose affection when you leave as early as you can.
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Re: [FEEDBACK] Trials of the Succubi (Version 1), by Indyc

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Braska wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:58 pm And also, maybe a way to get a little bit of soul back at some point ? 1 point while taking a nap, or a shower, for exemple ? or some other actions or special situations :
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during my second play, i played a lot with Anissa. At some point, i got to go down on her. Maybe I could have taken a point back on making her lose a bit of her control on me at this moment ?
Thanks for the great work
I think I forgot to answer this - there are currently 2 events that give you soul back. One is related to the first time you see Nikki on the stairs and the other is when you follow the game noises from Kylie.

Thank you for the kind words! Though there is enough content that no one will see it all, I am slowly adding more in areas that currently have less variety/options.
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