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Thank you doremi:))
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Hi all, very new to the forum and happy to be here.

I have enjoyed many of the videos that have been posted here, thanks to all for your efforts making these.

I always wanted to make a CH video of my own and to eventually share it with the community. I've been working on one on and off for a good while now. It all came togther a few weeks ago, the visuals are all great, but unfortunately I just cannot get a beat meter to operate correctly. I am using Filmora and it's really frustrating that I know exactly what I want, but I just can't do it!

Would anyone be willing to give me a hand at all? Having no beat meter is not an option for me, it's essential.

Anyone who can help me complete this video, please let me know. I would very much appreciate some assistance.

PS my CH video is all feet related. It's got a mix of amateur and pro stuff, kind of a response to the classic Foot Champ CH, which is fantastic. I've got a great range of stuff in there and what I think to be some some fantastic matching music.

Thanks!
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Pseudonym wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:53 pm
doremi wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:15 am I was seeing a drift, and thought I had no choice. The problem is the ability to pinpoint some beat sounds when mixed with lyrics. That why I thought an automatic approach on all beats might be an easier strategy.
I made this video today. It shows how I make beats for one round from start to finish.
You find out what the BPM of the song is and then create the beat patterns. It's pretty simple.
https://mega.nz/file/wFtDBarC#v3a43myd4 ... dsRHSU6NqQ

Once you are finished, you render the beat track and use something like AE to create the visual beat meter.
Or you can use ftreesmilo's beat analyzer to get array of time stamps. https://cyoa.club/tools/analyze.html
Those can, for instance, be feed to cyoa which will draw the beat meter for you on the fly. :)
Thanks Pseudonym, I found this extremely helpful when I made my first video.
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So... I have some ideas, but I wanted to get some feedback because I feel I can do something GREAT (at least for me), but I don't know how to put all the pieces in place.

Disclaimer: I'm not sure if or when this project will come to life, but I really wanted to give back something to a community that, for 9 years, has been providing me LOTS of good times and pleasure. Doing that for my tenth anniversary on Milovana (early-mid 2025) would be cool, but honestly, I don't know when or how will I manage to do it, if I ever do it.

What do I have: The "theme" or topic, and the music track. I know what most of you will tell me, "you have to search for the video content first, then find suitable music later". Well, not this time. The thing is, the main drive for my CH video will be music, of a very specific genres. That will be the main differentiator of my work, as well as the way the music is used alongside the video.

To be a bit more specific, my plan is to start with more pop-oriented music, then progress towards something more electronic and hardcore. And, at the same time, encompass the first pop songs with sweet, tender and lovely content (softcore? but a more niche softcore) , progressing towards more hardcore content. Yep, I'm a softcore lover and if you read me in the past, I absolutely love it, but I'd like to put harder (vanilla, a bit rougher) content towards the end.

Right now, I have a main scheme regarding video content:

First Stage: Softcore (Dancing -> Striptease -> Solo woman play) with a tender, lovely tone. Maybe content from AllFineGirls/Twisties/WowGirls would be suitable for this part, but I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe some PlayBoy+ content could fit well as well.

Second Stage: Girl-Girl Play (Again, sweet lovely girls making out, and slowly progressing towards raw lesbian). I'm not sure where I could find content but I guess the sources from the previous stage could work, getting lesbian scenes.

Third Stage: Vanilla porn, with a more mature tone, and progressing towards a bit rougher content towards the end. No idea of where to source this type of content... maybe TheWhiteBox and similars?

However, I have a couple of questions I haven't still figured out:

1_ Should I put the hardcore content only on the 3 minute CUM round? Or should I put vanilla porn on the last three or so rounds?
2_ Would you include cumshots? Ok ok, I know this one: This should be tailored to my taste. And to my taste, cum rounds with lots of ejaculations are not that appealing. So maybe I'll put a few sparse during the last minute.

I will focus on building the perfect music barebones, and then I'll start choosing and editing the video. I still don't know where or how will I source high quality content, but I guess I can start by downloading from commercial porn streaming pages, and then maybe I can find better sources. I'd love to know where Tia Blaze or HotBen, to mention some of the "youngest" members, source their extremely crisp and High Res softcore content. But I guess I'll figure It out, eventually, and I'm not there yet.

Any suggestions will be welcome, especially regarding to: Would you restrict the Vanilla/harder porn to the CUM round for a more intense sense of release? Or would you already include vanilla porn on the previos songs/rounds right before the CUM round? Why do I keep using all capitals to type CUM? Now that's a mystery.

Honestly, my first idea was to restrict the harder content just for the last 3 minutes, but I'm not sure I'll be able to fill half the video (the second half) with just lesbian, as it can become a bit... boring? It's not like two girls exchanging love can be boring EVER, but you know what I mean. I think I'll take a more equilibrated approach.

Thanks for reading this random Saturday night rambling.
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Hey, I don't consider myself as an expert creator, but I can try to answer your questions from our point of view (as you said, this is super subjective stuff). I will often use "us" because we had this kind of questions/conversations with ColdRaven when creating our CH, and this is our conclusions.
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm So... I have some ideas, but I wanted to get some feedback because I feel I can do something GREAT (at least for me), but I don't know how to put all the pieces in place.
I believe that's the spirit, we should create something that matches our tastes, not what is being done. There will always be some people that will enjoy something different! And if it brings ideas to other creators, it will just raise the bar!
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm Disclaimer: I'm not sure if or when this project will come to life, but I really wanted to give back something to a community that, for 9 years, has been providing me LOTS of good times and pleasure. Doing that for my tenth anniversary on Milovana (early-mid 2025) would be cool, but honestly, I don't know when or how will I manage to do it, if I ever do it.
I didn't know if we would get enough motivation to create a full CH, but starting and seeing rounds coming alive, and especially playtesting them satisfied us so much, that the motivation was there.
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm What do I have: The "theme" or topic, and the music track. I know what most of you will tell me, "you have to search for the video content first, then find suitable music later". Well, not this time. The thing is, the main drive for my CH video will be music, of a very specific genres. That will be the main differentiator of my work, as well as the way the music is used alongside the video.

To be a bit more specific, my plan is to start with more pop-oriented music, then progress towards something more electronic and hardcore. And, at the same time, encompass the first pop songs with sweet, tender and lovely content (softcore? but a more niche softcore) , progressing towards more hardcore content. Yep, I'm a softcore lover and if you read me in the past, I absolutely love it, but I'd like to put harder (vanilla, a bit rougher) content towards the end.
Couldn't agree more. Music is so important! And the videos should match the style/pace and what the songs evoke to you.
That's how we proceeded in the first place, we listened to the tracks and we discussed about what we imagine on each song.

Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm 1_ Should I put the hardcore content only on the 3 minute CUM round? Or should I put vanilla porn on the last three or so rounds?
I think during cum round, you should put what excites you the most. Seeing something completly different during a cum round tends to get us out of the flow.
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm 2_ Would you include cumshots? Ok ok, I know this one: This should be tailored to my taste. And to my taste, cum rounds with lots of ejaculations are not that appealing. So maybe I'll put a few sparse during the last minute.
Haha super subjective answer: cumshots aren't exciting for us. We don't like CH where you have 95% softcore stuff, and then in the end it's bukkake time. We don't like that :-P
For us, a cum (or edge) round should display what gets you off the most (and if it's cumshots, let's go!).
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm I will focus on building the perfect music barebones, and then I'll start choosing and editing the video. I still don't know where or how will I source high quality content, but I guess I can start by downloading from commercial porn streaming pages, and then maybe I can find better sources. I'd love to know where Tia Blaze or HotBen, to mention some of the "youngest" members, source their extremely crisp and High Res softcore content. But I guess I'll figure It out, eventually, and I'm not there yet.
Haha, tough one.
We found a lot of stuff in this thread: viewtopic.php?t=25545
And by browsing Youtube and Vimeo.

The rest are professional studios productions, like Playboy, MetArt, StasyQ, NudeX...
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm Any suggestions will be welcome, especially regarding to: Would you restrict the Vanilla/harder porn to the CUM round for a more intense sense of release? Or would you already include vanilla porn on the previos songs/rounds right before the CUM round? Why do I keep using all capitals to type CUM? Now that's a mystery.

Honestly, my first idea was to restrict the harder content just for the last 3 minutes, but I'm not sure I'll be able to fill half the video (the second half) with just lesbian, as it can become a bit... boring? It's not like two girls exchanging love can be boring EVER, but you know what I mean. I think I'll take a more equilibrated approach.
Changing the mood just for the cum round feels a bit weird for us (as always, super subjective...).
You can go for the classic progression, it seems always appreciated.
But our thoughts on this topic are a bit different:
Something harder is not necessarily more exciting. And seeing always the same "acts" can feel a bit boring.
What we tried to achieve, is not to fit some "acts", but a "theme", and try to vary acts in this theme.
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm Thanks for reading this random Saturday night rambling.
I think those questions are super interesting, and if I had to do my CH alone, I would definitely have asked those questions here...
Good luck, and we look forward to seeing what you are going to offer 8-)
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Hey Alex.
This is a nice initiative and I encourage you for your future project.

A bit like HotBen says, it's subjective, and I'm not a pro either, so my opinions and advice are obviously not to be followed to the letter, but just to maybe give you a little help and support and a different point of view.

Also, not being a big consumer/fan of Cock Hero myself, my advice(s) will be mainly from a technical point of view, music mix (Ableton Live), video and audio editing (DaVinci Resolve), and how I try to organize myself.

I will try not to go into details and keep it short, if you wish to discuss in more detail do not hesitate to contact me. 😉
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm but I don't know how to put all the pieces in place.
Embarking on the adventure of creation when it's a first can be overwhelming indeed.
(Even when it's not a first actually)
We have ideas in mind but we don't know how to set them up or really where to start.

Don't hesitate to organize folders (music/videos/audio/etc...), take notes, bookmark the musics and videos you plan to use...
(no need to download everything right away, work smarter not harder, and you don't want to get lost in too many directions)

Do you have an idea of ​​what you would like to do? Music, video content, video duration,...
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm So... I have some ideas,
[...]
What do I have: The "theme" or topic, and the music track.
[...] the main drive for my CH video will be music, of a very specific genres. That will be the main differentiator of my work, as well as the way the music is used alongside the video.

To be a bit more specific, my plan is to start with... [...]
Good!
I see that you already have a vision for your project,
that's a good thing, you can rely on it to organize yourself. (folders, bookmark, notes, is a good start)

But, to start, what software(s) do you plan to use?

You can then try to find an approximate duration of the video, try not to think bigger, quantity does not prevail over quality.
And if you have difficulty organizing yourself you risk getting lost and losing motivation over time.
You can also go step by step, one round after the other, but the mix between them and the atmosphere might suffer from it.

You can then download the music, and find how to arrange them together, the order, do you want to retouch them, instrumental versions or not, mixing them together, etc... to try to reach the video length that you had set for yourself.

An established musical mix is, in my opinion, a solid foundation on which to build a good project.
So don't underestimate this step, even if it means spending more time on it than you thought necessary.
HotBen wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:00 pm Music is so important! And the videos should match the style/pace and what the songs evoke to you.
That's how we proceeded in the first place, we listened to the tracks and we discussed about what we imagine on each song.
Like HotBen says, music can indeed convey emotions and inspire you, your musical mix should therefore greatly help you see more clearly in the structure of your project. What type of content, where, when, how, etc...
Once again, don't hesitate to make notes, and organize your folders.

You can therefore start downloading your video content, and organize it into folders to help you find your way around.
And start your first cut.
You can sort your videos in an order of appearance, then recut them (and rework them slightly, not too much for now),
keep in mind that you will only keep a fraction of the content, so try to concentrate on what you think is the best.

I could then continue for a long time on the following steps and return in more detail to those before.
Talk about the 3 major colors per round,
the atmosphere and mood that you can try to create with recoloring, effects, etc...
Then talk about transitions, not too many, not randomly, respecting the viewer's focus and adaptation time, etc...
Then beats and beatmeter, etc...
So many things...

I obviously don't want to discourage you by saying that. 😅
On the contrary, I want to encourage you and remind you that you are not alone.
If you want more details or have other questions you can contact me, and probably other creators.

Good luck with your project.
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Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm So... I have some ideas, but I wanted to get some feedback because I feel I can do something GREAT (at least for me), but I don't know how to put all the pieces in place.
Your music is probably measured in minutes, whereas your footage is measured in hours. An important step is to thin out the footage to the parts that makes it.

My first advice would be to watch the footage. If you try cutting without knowing what's in your footage, you'll make a ton of bad decisions early which have to be rectified later.

Some people like to make notes about the footage via Markers in their NLE of choice. Other people like to cut the important parts as a stringout of selects. A highlights reel if you may. This means you can work efficiently when you start cutting to the music, since you already know what parts are juicy.

My second advice is to get a rough cut going first, and not care too much about quality of the cut. Once you have something on a timeline, you get the feedback loop going, and this is what will refine the rest. If you already have a clip in mind for a certain section of the music, cut this first, in a non-linear manner. Once you have the important points in the music covered in visuals, it is often easier to fill out the blank spots. This also gives you some idea of how much material you have left on certain clips.

(Example: maybe you want the model to reveal her breasts at a certain point in the music. Due to continuity, you want her bra to stay on before that point in time. You'll have a much better idea of how much footage is before that point you can use earlier in the sequence if you lay down the reveal-clip first.)
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm What do I have: The "theme" or topic, and the music track. I know what most of you will tell me, "you have to search for the video content first, then find suitable music later". Well, not this time. The thing is, the main drive for my CH video will be music, of a very specific genres. That will be the main differentiator of my work, as well as the way the music is used alongside the video.
It depends on the content. For a music video, you certainly don't have the video content first. I think having some specific music in mind for a CH video is common. Then you can have a certain theme in mind when you are looking for content.
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm Right now, I have a main scheme regarding video content...
Having a plan before you start gathering material and start editing is going to be very helpful. Create an outline of what you want in your video, put it as text titles on a video track, and you can start building up around the outline. What are the themes and categories? Who are the models you are going to use? What do you not want in there?

Whenever you find suitable content, note where it fits into the project. This will tell you something about where you need more material. If you already have 10 great lesbian scenes of 30 minutes each for a 6 minute, 15 seconds song, then chances are you can drop some of those scenes, etc.
Alex69 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:33 pm Any suggestions will be welcome, especially regarding to: Would you restrict the Vanilla/harder porn to the CUM round for a more intense sense of release? Or would you already include vanilla porn on the previous songs/rounds right before the CUM round? Why do I keep using all capitals to type CUM? Now that's a mystery.
Taste is subjective. Do whatever you think is right and works for you. If you think a long string of lesbian scenes are a bit boring, then do something to spice it up. It's very hard to cater to someone else's taste and nail it. But you can probably nail your own pretty well.
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