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Hey there, I recently started my very first eos tease for fun but also with a goal to finish it and publish it. But I'm kinda new here and also inexperienced in scripting teases... I created my first pages, menu, settings and the start of the real tease itself, but now I'm a bit stuck, I think my ambitions are too high for my experience to be honest. I've looked into the tutorial topic but it's not really helping me anymore. So I have some questions if any of you are willing to help.

1. It has nothing to do with the scripting itself, but I just want to make sure to not get into any troubles, is it 'legal' to use pictures from non porn person, such as actresses, singers ect.

2. I'm trying to create a difficulty system that you can select in the menu, it's pretty common I've seen that in many teases but I can't really find a way to do that, as I said, I'm a beginner. :innocent:

3. I'm trying to create different and random tasks based on the difficulty selected. It could be strokes, edges ect... But randomly, so for instance you could get like 2 strokes tasks in a row, or 2 edges tasks... Or 1 stroke task, 1 edge ect ect, I think you get my point (I hope) I've tried something but I realized that it's too rudimentary and not effective so I looked into another tease to try to understand but I don't really get it. :lol:

4. Finally, I've seen a lot of people (like everyone) posting their new tease in a topic, is it really that useful ? To highlight it maybe ? I'm nowhere near publishing it but I'm curious.

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Re: New tease help

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Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm I've looked into the tutorial topic but it's not really helping me anymore.
I'm the author and I'm planning to write more. The thing is I'm not really sure what to write about. So I'm trying to hang out in the forum and help on a case-by-case basis, hoping to get a better picture what people need.
Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm 1. is it 'legal' to use pictures from non porn person, such as actresses, singers ect.
Can't give you legal advice, but I've seen plenty of Emma Watson teases here.
Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm 2. I'm trying to create a difficulty system
You're being vague. No help possible. You've got to make up your mind what exactly constitutes difficulty in your tease. Is it duration? Speed? You have to define it, if possible put it in numbers. Once you know where you want to go, it's easier to choose a path.
Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm 3. I'm trying to create different and random tasks based on the difficulty selected
Maybe just don't? I mean, I get it, "replayability", but look: Randomized stuff is never as good as hand-crafted stuff and the vast majority of people will never look at it a second time. Not to mention, it makes it a lot harder.
That being said, if it's important to you, then do it. It kind of comes back to 2.) Once you know what you want exactly, you can think about how to do it. Not before.
Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm 4. I've seen people posting their new tease in a topic
It's to collect feedback. People are more likely to report bugs if there is already a convenient place.


There are lots of coding nerds on here who can help you. I think it's just important that you can clearly explain what you want, otherwise helping you is very hard.

Looking forward to your stuff!
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Re: New tease help

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Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm Hey there, I recently started my very first eos tease for fun but also with a goal to finish it and publish it. But I'm kinda new here and also inexperienced in scripting teases... I created my first pages, menu, settings and the start of the real tease itself, but now I'm a bit stuck, I think my ambitions are too high for my experience to be honest.
Hi, I'm one of the coding berds mentioned by undeniable_denial and I'm more than happy to help with your questions. I have no tease writing experience but I'm around this site since 2009 and I've matured some experience in term of play and in eos mechanics, as I started developing an offline teaseviewer in the past.
Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm 1. is it 'legal' to use pictures from non porn person, such as actresses, singers ect.
Technically speaking, many of the content on this site could sit in a sort of gray area; on reddit there is a way more prolific community (r/JOIP) that creates similar content making wide use of SFW celebrity content, and I guess none has ever had any issue, so there should be no issue here too.
Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm 2. I'm trying to create a difficulty system
As undeniable_denial mentioned, you should define what's difficulty in your tease. Some options:
  • having a fixed amount of time and having to perform a number of repeated tasks that increases with difficulty -> use a fixed timer and assign the number of strokes/whatever with a say action, using an eval action and tag to determine the number; it's difficult to use a metronome;
  • having a fixed amount of repetitions (strokes/whatever) in a time that decreases with difficulty -> use an eval and variable timer to set the time; it's difficult to use a metronome;
  • having a fixed rythm and time and amount of repetitions (strokes/whatever) increases with difficulty -> use an eval and variable timer to set the time; it's easy to use a metronome;
  • having shorter pauses on higher difficulty -> use an eval and variable timer to set the time;
  • use if actions to create a couple variations of each task you expect to add to the tease; you can combine sequences of easy/difficult task to create intermediate levels of difficulty;
Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm 3. I'm trying to create different and random tasks based on the difficulty selected
First, consider undeniable_denial's answer which is very good; if you expect the player to return to a certain area, sort of like an RPG where you can encounter the same enemy multiple times, there are a couple of possibilities, but it would require a whole different post on its own; maybe consider my last point in the previous answer; you could have a couple of tasks for each difficulty level and pull a random one each time. Be careful, as the tease could become pretty chaotic quickly.
The last point I would like to add, doing random stuff inevitably requires some sort of while/for loop; the only way I know of to implement such a thing in EOS is to have page with an eval action to determine what to do and a series of ifs with the various actions with a last goto action to loop back on the page; be sure to add one action which actually is able to break the loop

For answer 4, see undeniable_denial answer.

What I feel like suggesting, though, is to maybe start with an easier project with less random and difficulty settings and keeping this bigger tease as something you develop on the side while you learn more thing with the simpler one.

Good luck in your develpment journey.

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undeniable_denial wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:21 am
You're being vague. No help possible. You've got to make up your mind what exactly constitutes difficulty in your tease. Is it duration? Speed? You have to define it, if possible put it in numbers. Once you know where you want to go, it's easier to choose a path.
Thamrill's reply below gave me an idea of how to proceed
Sevumbra66 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:39 pm 3. I'm trying to create different and random tasks based on the difficulty selected
undeniable_denial wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:21 am Maybe just don't? I mean, I get it, "replayability", but look: Randomized stuff is never as good as hand-crafted stuff and the vast majority of people will never look at it a second time. Not to mention, it makes it a lot harder.
That being said, if it's important to you, then do it. It kind of comes back to 2.) Once you know what you want exactly, you can think about how to do it. Not before.
Yea I figured it would make it harder to do. To be honest it's not that important to have a fully randomized tease, but I'm still looking for some sort of replayability. I'm thinking about just making a couple of tasks for each difficulty like Thamrill suggested below.
undeniable_denial wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:21 am There are lots of coding nerds on here who can help you. I think it's just important that you can clearly explain what you want, otherwise helping you is very hard.

Looking forward to your stuff!
Got it, I'm still in the early stages of making it, so my ideas are not yet clear. Thank you for your reply :)
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Thamrill wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:00 pm As undeniable_denial mentioned, you should define what's difficulty in your tease. Some options:
  • having a fixed amount of time and having to perform a number of repeated tasks that increases with difficulty -> use a fixed timer and assign the number of strokes/whatever with a say action, using an eval action and tag to determine the number; it's difficult to use a metronome;
  • having a fixed amount of repetitions (strokes/whatever) in a time that decreases with difficulty -> use an eval and variable timer to set the time; it's difficult to use a metronome;
  • having a fixed rythm and time and amount of repetitions (strokes/whatever) increases with difficulty -> use an eval and variable timer to set the time; it's easy to use a metronome;
  • having shorter pauses on higher difficulty -> use an eval and variable timer to set the time;
  • use if actions to create a couple variations of each task you expect to add to the tease; you can combine sequences of easy/difficult task to create intermediate levels of difficulty;
Thank you for your options, they are helping me understand how to proceed, I'll definitely try that.

Thamrill wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:00 pm First, consider undeniable_denial's answer which is very good; if you expect the player to return to a certain area, sort of like an RPG where you can encounter the same enemy multiple times, there are a couple of possibilities, but it would require a whole different post on its own; maybe consider my last point in the previous answer; you could have a couple of tasks for each difficulty level and pull a random one each time. Be careful, as the tease could become pretty chaotic quickly.
The last point I would like to add, doing random stuff inevitably requires some sort of while/for loop; the only way I know of to implement such a thing in EOS is to have page with an eval action to determine what to do and a series of ifs with the various actions with a last goto action to loop back on the page; be sure to add one action which actually is able to break the loop
Yea, I'm thinking about going with the couples of tasks for each difficulty for now. It seems easier to do, thank you for your explanation though
Thamrill wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:00 pm What I feel like suggesting, though, is to maybe start with an easier project with less random and difficulty settings and keeping this bigger tease as something you develop on the side while you learn more thing with the simpler one.

Good luck in your develpment journey.
I'll definitely do that, I'm aiming big for a start so I'll just try easier things while trying to understand more advanced stuff, thanks for the reply :)
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