[RELEASE] Fap Hero - Fantasy Play. UPDATE: Popstim Edition

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Re: [RELEASE] Fap Hero - Fantasy Play

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This is so nicely polished.

Awesome job ! Thanks for sharing it !
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Jist amazing This really deserves its own estim file.
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AndreXHero wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:16 am
BlueM00 wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:53 pm If I had one critique, it would be that the rhythm-changes were a bit too frequent, so I felt I was spending time watching the beat-bar rather than enjoying the show.
Thanks!
I had hope that pattern change announcments would be sufficient for everyone to limit this problem while still allowing the sections of one pattern to be short enough to keep the players from getting bored with one repeating pattern.
Perhaps it depends on the user's setup. With VR, the action is pretty close to the eyes, so they have to move to see the beat-meter. So knowing that pattern-changes are frequent means constantly looking for them. Maybe an audio alert when a beat-change is coming would help.
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Finally got to play this today and what a great production! I especially liked the Nier Automata, DOA and final+bonus rounds. I perhaps wasn't as keen on the Resident Evil round but that's just personal taste. I also noticed a few typos in the text, but nothing that detracted from the experience.

I didn't play following the beatmeter but didn't find it intrusive either, and the inclusion of an audio track without the beats was a really nice option to have. Instead I played it with a very rough, rushed, experimental estim I threw together in Da Vinci Resolve, using parts of pre-existing estim files. Unfortunately I got the volume levels and crossfades a bit wrong, so it didn't flow too well. Resulted in some very sudden ramp ups as it swapped between too low and too high sections :rolleyes: I also edited in some poppers prompts for some Amyl use, which worked really well with the music and imagery.

Despite my noob attempts at estim editing, I still had a blast! This is definitely one of my new favourites and I can't wait to play it again asap, especially in VR with a huge virtual screen once my Quest 3 arrives.

Really great work with this Andre and thanks very much for making it!

EDIT: I actually played it again today (Sunday 15th) after improving the estim a bit. I rarely do sessions so close together - it says a lot about how much I enjoy this production! :-D
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Tested it (because of Mega limitations) after having expecting this video for months. Expect some nitpicking.

The editing is on par with Abzero, at least, at the level I can evaluate. The effects are more neat and smooth, it's eye candy. But it's to the detriment of readability. Everything blends too well to allow the player getting the patterns info quickly and we find ourselves looking at the beatmeter too long to focus on the scenes. Those are by the way, really well chosen from a wide variety of talented animators and crediting everyone AND their Patreon/Subscribestar/etc. is a nice touch that allowed you to hide the watermarks... but it's also another distraction :nugget:. I would have liked a version without it because I often find myself checking if I recognized the artist and as the credits you wrote blend really well, it takes a split second more than a big ugly watermark to read them, but I may be the minority here. But I think a txt file with all those infos would be better to copy/paste all those URL.
I'm also a little surprised not finding any General Butch because he has like 25% of top 50 3D animation on rule34.xxx, though I can imagine why: either the girls are too plumpy for your taste or you have a beef with him/his community, since some people hold them accountable for Arhoangel stopping his activities. Anyway, the quality is still there.
As for the tracks, they do their job quite well and I really like your gimmick of editing them to accelerate the tempo. Had it not been in every round, I might have thought you only had chosen musics with that kind of ramp ups.
About the pattern, they're good but I would have prefered some of them to keep for longer, so as to focus more on the action, but that's because of what I talked about earlier. An indicator with digits like 1-1-3 or 5-1-3-1 would have helped (especially for uncommon patterns like the second one).
Another UI element I think is missing is the countdown for the bonus round.
Also, the difficulty is at the level I like, about the same as theduodimension. It's right in my alley.
Finally, the host parts did their part but some increasing visual teasing would have been better. Don't get me wrong, it's already incredible to have put that much work into those parts; as I said earlier, I'm only nitpicking.

All in all: one of the best 3D fap hero, imho. Only real problem for me is the UI that made it more difficult to quickly adapt to the frequent pattern changes and that will disappear for me after some more tries, when I'll have memorized a good part of them. But the rest is either anecdotal or really, really good. Thanks for the work!
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Perso, i really like the scene. Because the creator manage to find 3D scene who are not use in other fap hero.

I don't see the point of puting 3D scene than everyone already see hundred times in older videos.

Yes, you have scene we already know. But for 80% of them, it's stuff we never see in a fap hero. And just for that, i will say, congratulation. I want to see more fap hero like this.
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Thanks everyone, I'm supper hapy to see almost exclusivly positive response! And for noticing problems too :)
Repsac wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:27 pm Tested it (because of Mega limitations) after having expecting this video for months. Expect some nitpicking.

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Thanks a lot! Any feedback is very valuable for me.

I was wondering if I should remove that particle effect to make the screen cleaner, and to tone down some other stuff but it's not easy to balance between "fireworks" that add some viewing value and adding no value at all. In the end I've decided to leave it because I personally like it. Also I wanted to avoid multiple versions like "no beatbar", 'no effects", "no hosts" - It's just too many possible edits to make. To compensate for that I added multiple audio tracks and LQ version.

Credits have to stay. If anyone wants to remove them, they can crop them out.

I've avoided G_B because I personally don't like his animations. I never spoke to him, he probably does not know I exist and I have nothing against him. Some part of me has selected animations that would fit the release but mostly I've picked clips that I could enjoy. That is also the reason for the variety of clips - I wanted to have scenes that viewers probably did not saw already - it’s almost impossible when you choose the best looking ones but I hope everyone saw something new. Also that’s the reason it’s not just another "overwatch mix"

And for the hosts - it’s my first time creating production level 3d animations, I want to work on my 3d skills in the future for more spicy scenes ;)
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I also love the credits. For one time, a creator put credits. Will be a shame to critic him about that. At least, people can dig 3D porn designer than they like to see more stuff from them. 10/10 on this one, don't remove anything about credits.
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AndreXHero wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:03 pmbecause I personally like it
And that's the most important reason when creating a CH/FH... or anything else. ^^
AndreXHero wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:03 pmCredits have to stay.
Just in case it wasn't clear, I was only talking about the ones during rounds, not the credits at the end. And yes, it has to stay in at least one version. And if you make only one, then it has to stay.
AndreXHero wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:03 pmAnd for the hosts - it’s my first time creating production level 3d animations, I want to work on my 3d skills in the future for more spicy scenes ;)
Looking forward to it. :love:
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Man, you look really new on this platform. Stop critics credits. There was a time, long ago, where creator put no credits at all ! It was a real pain to find the source of the content they used.

Stop telling us than you are distract by a line of text on the bottom left (or right) of the screen when the action is in the middle of the screen. If you are distract with this, put the beat sound and don't watch the beat bar.

Credits during round are pretty ok. The creator had a hard time adding them, stop asking him to remove them. You don't release the work it is to put them on every frame of the video (knowing than there is 3 sc in average of the same clip before changing to another one).

If you are not happy with the credits, you can still cut the video yourself. For the rest, stop complain about this type of stuff please. Credits push people to create more fap hero, because they can go dig for the creator they like while playing and selecting clip they like to create fap hero content. And not having to dig into 300 line of text at the end of the video.

Both credits display need to stay. (If the creator have enough strengh to make both) Better than no credits at all.


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Same for the host critics in the video. You don't release how hard it is to add it ! It's what almost made bastati quite fap hero editing back in the day, when he was working on pendulum. Adding host is really hard, it is not just about adding video clip. It's harder than adding a beat bar, something who is already really hard to create. If Abzero have no host, it's for this particulary reason.

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I think you don't release how good and polished is this fap hero production. The creator checked all the good box on this one. Even those who were not needed. I think you should go try the first fap hero made by the community, you will realize how wrong you are about "fantasy play".
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Before anything else: here's a rant answering Sombre's rant since they're adamant to take me by the throat. Sorry in advance for the other people reading it since it may be as inconvienient a read as Sombre's post was for me but I won't let someone attack me without defending myself.

TL;DR: Sombre understood what they wanted to understand, distorted my words and talked for people that didn't ask (at least publicly) for it.


Sombre wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:23 pmMan, you look really new on this platform.
Man, you look like you really don't know how to read. I was just nitpicking what was a little bother for me and me only. But you didn't want to understand it.
I didn't say to get rid of all of it and I even said that it's better to have them everywhere. But you didn't want to understand it.
Andre chose to put them and even wrote "Any feedback is very valuable for me". But you didn't want to understand it.

Aside from you, have I offended anyone by saying that I (and not speaking for anyone else) prefered credits only at the end? Seems not. I'm OK with how credits were put in this FH. Never did I say the opposite. Just that it distracted me. I even wrote it was a "nice touch" and that they had to stay (in at least one version, and since there's no creditless-round dedicated version, they had to stay). I'm not telling Andre to remove them all, just that a version without those during rounds would have been better for me. I know how important it is to put them and I even suggested another more convenient way to give them to the viewers. But it's not that you didn't understand, you didn't even read it.
As for the hosts, I suggested an idea to improve his work and already said the work he put in it was "incredible". But you didn't read that.

I've made what I consider 1 major critic (the "readability" of the beatbar, and I'm not the only one for that) and some minor ones. Andre has been receptive to those and it's his choice to take them into account or not and also to tell me if I'm wrong or if I was a jerk with how I wrote them. Don't talk for Andre about the critics he can or cannot receive, you have no right doing so and you have no right telling me I can't make them.
If a creator cannot receive feedbacks, it's sad for them because they'll have a harder time improving, but it's their call. I don't know what was the nature of the ones that Bastati got but I can understand if it was toxic that it almost made him quit. If I was toxic while writing those for Andre: I'm sorry. I don't think they were but if it was the case, I hope Andre or a moderator would have told me.
Also, it's not because something was hard that it's perfect or even good (well, in this case, it's really good, but there's no correlation).
I'll re-repeat because you didn't bother reading it in previous posts: I was mostly nitpicking. I warned as such because most of what I said was of lesser importance than the point several people including me raised. It was to insist on that fact so as Andre would not take it to heart too much. Even for the UI elements being too blended with the rest is something no one should expect any amateur to get it perfectly right and I've made myself clear that the way it was put in the video had temporary cons but also pros.
I realise full well how much work it is to do all this as I edit videos myself daily (at an amateur level). I'm always digging for feedbacks, as small as they can be, from people who watch them and as long as they're not toxic in how they expose any critic, I take those into account and mines for Fantasy Play were in that intent: to allow Andre to have another more detailed point of view. And he's free to dismiss them or not, to judge them abusive or not, to think they're unimportant or not. It's not your call to do so.

P.S.: I don't find that relevant but since you talked about it while saying things like you're the senior teaching me while looking down on me, here's another thing you didn't bother reading: before saying I look new, read the date I joined this forum. Though I was silent for a long time, I've been here for an even longer time. If there's someone who's look new on this platform and Internet in general, it's you. Everyone is allowed to say what they think, as long as it's within the boundaries of the law and the rules of the platform. You can talk for yourself. You can say you think I'm wrong. But you cannot tell me to renounce freedom of speech. Had I been harassing Andre (or anyone else), then yes, you would be right to tell me to shut up. But that's not the case.
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Repsac wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:49 pm I won't let someone attack me without defending myself.
Guys, please take it private.

Better yet, if someone is being an asshole, simply block the asshole. Trust me: when someone is being an asshole, everyone with any sense already knows, and will already be treating the asshole with the contempt they deserve.

And for the avoidance of any confusion: please do not reply to this in any public forum. If you don't like it, just block me.
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You don't realise how much work was made in this Fap Hero and other Fap Hero in general. Because you are new to the platform.

Credits are always welcome, new credits technics are always awesome.
Host is fine as it is. Yeah, could be better. If you want a better host, code it. It's REALLY hard to implement in a video.

My point is than you can't nitpicking on something who is already hard to make in the first place. You will just demotivate the creator to add it. "Ho, you don't like seeing credits on every frame ? Ok, why i bother making credits at all ? Next time, i will just make the video and don't even exhaust myself into making credits for the whole video, including the end credits"

Credits & Host are BONUS stuff. They are optionnal and the majority love to see credits and host. If you start to say than credits are bad shit (Yeah, i understood than you like the end credits! That's not my point), i know a couple of people who will not be happy if the credits disappear from the next video of the same creator.

You can make a critics, nothing against that. But DON'T insist about it. And listen the people who were there before you.

If you feel than my message look personal to you or try to attack you, that's your problem, not mine. Go in PM for that type of issues. I don't care about you, i'm not here to attack you or pin you down. I care about seeing creator staying motivate to make new content.

I'm aware, since the beginning, about the fact than the critic you made is "Nitpicking" stuff. Doesn't mean than i don't want to add comment on the stuff you wrote. If you don't like seeing people reacting to what you write on a public forum, don't post on a public forum in the first place.

Bastati didn't almost quite because of a critic about his host creation. He almost quite while creating the host in his last Fap Hero Creation with a host (This history event is just here to show you how hard it is to put it in a video). Clearly, if someone would have critic his host, sure, he would have certainly quite knowing how painful it was for him to add it. And Bastati is the god mode of Fap Hero creation, he know his stuff better than everyone here. (Well, seeing the quality of AndreXHero fap hero, sure, this guy know also his stuff about video editing !)

In conclusion :

The UI is fine.
The host is fine.
The credits are more than fine.
If you compare with 99% of the other FAP HERO made in the History of this genre. This FAP HERO is supra fine. 20/10
What do you want more ? A lovesense connection ? :lol:
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Sombre wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:34 pmYou don't realise how much work was made in this Fap Hero and other Fap Hero in general. Because you are new to the platform.
Way to go proving my point in 2 sentences: you don't read, don't know how to read, or don't understand what you read. Since you didn't bother, I won't.
I'll do what a saner guy than us two said: block you. Thanks for reminding me I could block toxic white knights, BlueM00.
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I know how to read, i just think than your point are irrelevant since you lack of experience in the fap hero world and you can't prove otherwise (something i have since i'm here since 2015). The drama stuff, we clearly don't care. Your problem, not mine.

Now, get back to the topic.
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