ruined orgasms

[Claudius]

Hello,

do you have the same problem like me? After a ruined orgasm, I am just still horny and it is hard to deal with the energy in my body. I don't really want to jerk off to a full orgasm but often I do it, because it feels like my body need it. I had a ruined 2 hours ago and I am still have that horniness. Will it go away by itself or what would you do? Let's say I try to be a mistress for myself and as the misstress I wish to deny the second orgasm, but I am a weak slave. What can I do against it?

Bye Claudius

[hawekeye1234]

"do you have the same problem like me? After a ruined orgasm, I am just still horny and it is hard to deal with the energy in my body. I don't really want to jerk off to a full orgasm but often I do it, because it feels like my body need it"

I mean that's kinda of it's purpose the unsatisfied release, it's purpose is not to give a relief but just empty you, I mean if you wanna make sorta relief you can go out and pee right after that can sometimes reset the feeling a bit, but there is a reason most think of ruined orgasm as a punishment :)

Me personally I like the feeling of just just being a few light touch or tab of the frenulum to make me release, with a ruined orgasm.

If you want to deny yourself, will power, or a Chastity Cage right after ruined and then in a timesafe with the key.

[Claudius]

That's it.

I am confused but I realize that most of my fantasies are only fantasies and they are only teasing as a roleplay.

It is the same with chastity everything longer than a week and I am like the people who quit smoking. I got angry as hell.

[edger477]

Not ejaculating saves you huge amount of energy that is not easy to channel. But if you can try getting for hour or more every day into nature and start doing something creative, you might be able to transition into enjoying it.

[Claudius]

Not ejaculating saves you huge amount of energy that is not easy to channel. But if you can try getting for hour or more every day into nature and start doing something creative, you might be able to transition into enjoying it.

OKay, I could try that.

my first idea was to try how many ruined orgasm I could have in a row. (But then there was the pain and I am not sure if it is unhealthy.) But if I would try. How long would you say is it good to wait. Try a ruined every 24 hours for a week or something like that?

But as a conclusion maybe it is too much become a number game. Trying to hit some numbers and limits, when the real goal should be joy and fun. Of course second finding a partner to get things on a different level. But I am not good at dating and only had a couple of flings and ons in past and everything only vanilla missionary. Didn't even know if the girls enjoyed it.

[edger477]

Ruined orgasms still cost you energy. From what I read, rule of thumb for what male body can sustain without long-term depletion of life energy and health is one ejaculation every x days where x = your age in years / 5

I only wrote past post because you said is hard to deal with energy in your body. One way to deal with it is use porn and ejaculate it away, but not doing that and use it for something else is more positive for you and people around you.

Maybe google for "mantak chia pdf" - he is an author of several books, if you find any of them and find it interesting you will be able to dig further yourself.

[Claudius]

I don't know. Maybe it is wrong to talk about.

There is so much I have to think about.

That what I called my kink for a long time now losts its value. But at the same time I am fighting an inner fight that it couldn't be nothing.

If it comes to religions I cannot explain my point of view in English. But it is the reason why I don't feel comfortable with any religions be a part of my life. So tao. I am happy if it is yours and you like it. But not mine.

[edger477]

I am not religious. I guess only if you are religious then you cannot read about any other religion - and that is not limited to classical religions only, we saw that last year when people took vaccine religion and were banning and laughing at anyone asking for more data before they decide to take the jab.

If you are atheist - that is religion too, because it is based on belief that god does not exist. As you cannot prove either that does or that does not exist, believing any of the 2 is a religion.

I observe religions from pragmatic viewpoint - most of them contain some knowledge, even in case when they were not able to explain it - i.e. most of them wrote that it is wrong to steal or kill, or that is wrong to go to extremes in anything, even when they did not provide scientific explanation why.
For taoism I like how their scholars spent many generations, thousands of years observing nature and human body and wrote down what they learned, many of their learnings are not scientifically explained yet, but they are not debunked either, and science is never settled. We have no idea how consciousness exists and the type of energy that it is. We also don't know how your consciousness can interact with outside of your body and if there is more of same type of energy in nature. I am not saying you should blindly believe anything you read, but think about it and maybe try some of practices which were written down because they had positive effect.

I was probably mostly atheist myself until I read the book "Why we get fat and what to do about it", and I decided to give it a chance and drop sugar from my food. Since then even "science" started to change and sugar is not "safe" food additive as it was some 10-15 years ago, many products now advertise no sugar. But point is for many years the science claimed that carbs (and among them sugar) were safer and better than fat. Since then I became agnostic and learned to rationalize my beliefs, which allows me to change them once some of their building points are proven to be incorrect. For many things you read you can take "Schrödinger's cat" approach - it is both true and false until you can check it yourself.

[stallionBoi]

Not ejaculating saves you huge amount of energy that is not easy to channel. But if you can try getting for hour or more every day into nature and start doing something creative, you might be able to transition into enjoying it.

Ruined orgasms still cost you energy.

Sitting around horny and frustrated can be fun for a while, but it's better to keep busy. Having that extra energy has allowed me to accomplish more creatively and professionally than I ever imagined...

A ruined orgasm doesn't have the same "crash" as a normal orgasm, but I definitely notice a drop in motivation.

[edger477]

Sitting around horny and frustrated can be fun for a while, but it's better to keep busy. Having that extra energy has allowed me to accomplish more creatively and professionally than I ever imagined...

A ruined orgasm doesn't have the same "crash" as a normal orgasm, but I definitely notice a drop in motivation.

And learning how to conserve and channel that energy will become more important as you age...

At some point morning erections don't happen if you had too many ejaculations recently... I will be 40 soon, and learning to enjoy sex without having to ejaculate was probably best thing I did in last few years. That feeling of still having erection every morning and still be horny and want to have another sex with my wife even if we had sex last night... it is incredibly inspiring and masculine, I feel so powerful to have that energy. Plus enjoying plateau for much much longer than 5 seconds of ejaculation is something that makes sex so much worthy of redoing again and again.

[stallionBoi]

Used to take morning wood for granted...
As a teenager, it's just there!

Personally happens to me three or four times per month, normally after any of the following:
-Very next morning after ejaculation.
-Four days after ejaculating.
-Following an intense teasing and edging bedtime session.

[Claudius]

If you are atheist - that is religion too, because it is based on belief that god does not exist. As you cannot prove either that does or that does not exist, believing any of the 2 is a religion.

No. It is not the same. You have to decide between belief and knowledge. If you decide for knowledge you need a proof. If you decide for belief you have to avoid proof. In the moment you know if there is a god, you lost your belief.

You cannot say news and fake-news are the same. Everything is information and it is just not important if it is right or wrong. It is important if I believe it is right or wrong. If you say: "I believe news A, B and C is right. I don't believe news D, E and F is right." That is not the same if you say: "I know because there is proof news B, D and F is right. I know because there is proof news A and E is wrong. There is not any evidence that news C is right and we cannot proof it." You cannot say that both statements are on the same level. I think we are living in the 21th century and it should be possible to backup sex education with science. I don't want to mix-up my chastity kink with bullshit and tell everybody that I do it to avoid blindness. (I heard it too often by no-fap people and I am tired of.) Fun and pleasure is the reason for kinks and I prefer to get an medical risk assessment. Maybe I am too pissed off by the argument I had with no-fappers. But I cannot see not-believing as a kind of belief or religion and I think religous people who do that are on the best way to lose their religion. You cannot add proof to religion. It is like putting water in a campfire.

I give chastity a last chance. I want to stay in cage for this month without orgsams. I allow me to have cheating days on sundays and if I denied to cheat. I may can roll a dice once a day and be allowed to cum by a 6. I am curious if I would do it full 2 weeks and if I feel like that this experience is worth the effort after the month. I am ready to cut it off my sex life completely, if it doesn't fit my needs anymore.

[edger477]

It is not the same. You have to decide between belief and knowledge. If you decide for knowledge you need a proof. If you decide for belief you have to avoid proof. In the moment you know if there is a god, you lost your belief.

So how is being atheist not a religion? Believing that good does or does not exist is both belief. Like when you hate someone, it is closer to love than being indifferent. I am agnostic for that precise reason, I have not seen adequate proof that god exists, and I have not seen adequate proof that it does not. So I believe neither, I simply accept it is a question to which I do not know the answer (yet?).

I do like to read religious teachings to see what they are about, and Abrahamic religions are mostly about morality (I guess they were important in society that did not have surveillance and such powerful state apparatus), while eastern religions are more often about relation between human and nature, balance and temperance, and those are not bullshit, it is knowledge written down by people who spent many lifetimes observing nature and deducing relations between different natural processes.

Your kink might be just that, I just provided my viewpoint because I paid attention and I noticed that ejaculations exhaust me. Last time I had sex I did not want to ejaculate because next day I was driving close to thousand kilometers - this is already 100% true, when I ejaculate, I need 2 hours of additional sleep per day for 3-4 days to have even moderate levels of energy, while not having ejaculated for 2 weeks I feel much younger due to increased energy I have now. I just don't need chastity for that, and the longer I don't ejaculate the higher my testosterone is and more mental fortitude I have to not initiate sex with intent to ejaculate (to be successful at this it is very important you don't have that intent at start and not approach sex with goal of ejaculation).

[stallionBoi]

...not having ejaculated for 2 weeks I feel much younger due to increased energy I have now. ...

Conserving those precious fluids helps me feel half my age...

...the longer I don't ejaculate the higher my testosterone is and more mental fortitude I have to not initiate sex with intent to ejaculate (to be successful at this it is very important you don't have that intent at start and not approach sex with goal of ejaculation).

As a teenager, getting off is THE reason to initiate sex. As an adult, I want to enjoy every second of taking the scenic route. The journey really is part of the destination.