Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
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Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
Hey all
I am thinking into stepping in to producing non-nude content
This means: No genitals, no naked tits, no masturbation...
I created a first round for you to review:
Resolution: 2160p
Duration: 3:55min
Content: Mexart.com & Tushy.com & Kellymedia
Music: Gareth Emery feat. Christina Novelli - Concrete Angel
Beatmeter is adjusted to the music of course, Cut's adjusted to the music, too.
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Maybe you can provide me feedback about:
- Beats - are they manageable?
- Cuts and their match to the music
- Edge Meter at the end
- What's the optimal length for a non-nude cockhero?
Thanks
I am thinking into stepping in to producing non-nude content
This means: No genitals, no naked tits, no masturbation...
I created a first round for you to review:
Resolution: 2160p
Duration: 3:55min
Content: Mexart.com & Tushy.com & Kellymedia
Music: Gareth Emery feat. Christina Novelli - Concrete Angel
Beatmeter is adjusted to the music of course, Cut's adjusted to the music, too.
Mega.nz: https://mega.nz/folder/eUNWGRRS#yciGjCgGiLAfAbTEhgsPAQ
Youtube: https://youtu.be/p_Lbl3wjxhY (I'm accepting bets about how long it will be online)
Maybe you can provide me feedback about:
- Beats - are they manageable?
- Cuts and their match to the music
- Edge Meter at the end
- What's the optimal length for a non-nude cockhero?
Thanks
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
This kind of music doesn’t do it for me but we all know that’s a personal taste thing. I like the beats on the side a lot more than on the bottom. The beat click I don’t like, I prefer a more integrated “thump”. I tend to prefer the audio beat cues to be ignorable.
Best of luck!
Best of luck!
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
Thanks, yes the music is a topic which cannot match everyones taste
OK, I will try to find a better beat sound. i think I know what you mean.
OK, I will try to find a better beat sound. i think I know what you mean.
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
I think it's a fantastic idea to have a cock hero type video with only non nude content. Thanks a lot for putting this together and keep up the great work!
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
This is a great idea!
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
Oh, it wasn't my idea... I think, there is at least one other non-nude CH available here on Milovana
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
Love non-nude.
Beats were fine, I prefer horizontal bar (best one is the one which shows you the pattern once it changes and disappears otherwise.) But it's not problem, just a personal preference.
Agree the beat sound is too intruding, so would be good to change.
The 1-3 pattern near the start was a bit disruptive. Maybe something that fits better with a 4/4 is nicer
I don't mind complex patterns or long patterns, so long as they don't change so often, so you can "get into the groove" with it before it changes.
Final feedback - would prefer if you edit out male actors. In some of the sample there are men.
Cannot wait to see finished thing.
Beats were fine, I prefer horizontal bar (best one is the one which shows you the pattern once it changes and disappears otherwise.) But it's not problem, just a personal preference.
Agree the beat sound is too intruding, so would be good to change.
The 1-3 pattern near the start was a bit disruptive. Maybe something that fits better with a 4/4 is nicer
I don't mind complex patterns or long patterns, so long as they don't change so often, so you can "get into the groove" with it before it changes.
Final feedback - would prefer if you edit out male actors. In some of the sample there are men.
Cannot wait to see finished thing.
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
Great, thanks for the feedback, yes, agree about the menfroog wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:41 am Love non-nude.
Beats were fine, I prefer horizontal bar (best one is the one which shows you the pattern once it changes and disappears otherwise.) But it's not problem, just a personal preference.
Agree the beat sound is too intruding, so would be good to change.
The 1-3 pattern near the start was a bit disruptive. Maybe something that fits better with a 4/4 is nicer
I don't mind complex patterns or long patterns, so long as they don't change so often, so you can "get into the groove" with it before it changes.
Final feedback - would prefer if you edit out male actors. In some of the sample there are men.
Cannot wait to see finished thing.
Has anyone a idea about where to find a good beat sound?
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
I like NN with nude at the end. CH youtube was good that way.
Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
It's good to see more NN content. For me, the music choice is great too. One thing I'd suggest that you still need to work on is making sure the beat patterns match with the music better, especially making sure they repeat in line with the bars of the music. The 1-1-1-3-7- in particular was jarring, because each rest is also using up a beat of the music, for a total of 18 beats of music. You'd want to repeat on 16 beats (or any power of 2, really), so 1-1-3-7- adds to what you need (make sure to count that trailing rest!).
Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
Hey zerooo,
Good work!
I think you can see from the replies so far that everyone has different tastes, so don't worry about doing everything someone suggests - you can't keep everyone happy.
Instead, concentrate on creating something you think is good.
I think this is good work (I'm always excited to see more softcore content).
My only points would be:
1. (zingg2 got in there first with this one) your beat patterns should be 4 beats long, or 8 beats, or 16 (keep doubling each time). If you choose odd numbers, or even multiples of odd numbers (6 isn't great for example), the patterns won't loop in time with the music. What that generally means is you will end up repeating the pattern an odd number of times, like 2 and 2/3 times, which makes it hard to follow and so the player spends more time concentrating on the beat bar and less on having fun.
2. You could probably have a little more content for the length of the round. This is (once again) personal preference, so feel free to ignore it (some people have put together whole rounds from just one scene), but it felt like you were using maybe 3 or 4 scenes, which means we had about a minute of footage from each. About half way through I started thinking to myself "didn't we have this exact shot already?". Like I said, it's personal preference, but repeating the same clip or lots of very similar clips is not great (the human brain is really good at working out things it's already seen), and as a challenege, a cock hero is generally about throwing new material at the player until they succumb. Throwing the same material at them again makes it less exciting and much easier to get through. I realise you're going with non-nude only, so that limits which parts of a scene you can use, but you could try looking for other scenes with the same performer and using the earlier parts of those, or other performers' scenes in a similar setting (e.g. bikini in a pool, lingerie in a bedroom etc.).
3. I agree with froog that you probably don't want to have men in the scenes. I think there's a lot of overlap between people who like softcore, clothed content and people who don't want to see men in their porn. By having men in the scenes, I think you risk alienating a large portion of your target audience. Personally all I could think of in the kissing scene was stubble rash, which is not a turn-on for me.
Seriously though, well done - an excellent prototype, and a good point to continue from. I will avoid making any suggestions for the music, the scene selection or the beat bar, as they are all personal taste and you should just do what you feel works best for your production.
As an aside, what's the name of the scene with the girl on the floatie with the champagne? Overall good clips, but it did feel like you reused a few similar/identical ones.
Good work!
I think you can see from the replies so far that everyone has different tastes, so don't worry about doing everything someone suggests - you can't keep everyone happy.
Instead, concentrate on creating something you think is good.
I think this is good work (I'm always excited to see more softcore content).
My only points would be:
1. (zingg2 got in there first with this one) your beat patterns should be 4 beats long, or 8 beats, or 16 (keep doubling each time). If you choose odd numbers, or even multiples of odd numbers (6 isn't great for example), the patterns won't loop in time with the music. What that generally means is you will end up repeating the pattern an odd number of times, like 2 and 2/3 times, which makes it hard to follow and so the player spends more time concentrating on the beat bar and less on having fun.
2. You could probably have a little more content for the length of the round. This is (once again) personal preference, so feel free to ignore it (some people have put together whole rounds from just one scene), but it felt like you were using maybe 3 or 4 scenes, which means we had about a minute of footage from each. About half way through I started thinking to myself "didn't we have this exact shot already?". Like I said, it's personal preference, but repeating the same clip or lots of very similar clips is not great (the human brain is really good at working out things it's already seen), and as a challenege, a cock hero is generally about throwing new material at the player until they succumb. Throwing the same material at them again makes it less exciting and much easier to get through. I realise you're going with non-nude only, so that limits which parts of a scene you can use, but you could try looking for other scenes with the same performer and using the earlier parts of those, or other performers' scenes in a similar setting (e.g. bikini in a pool, lingerie in a bedroom etc.).
3. I agree with froog that you probably don't want to have men in the scenes. I think there's a lot of overlap between people who like softcore, clothed content and people who don't want to see men in their porn. By having men in the scenes, I think you risk alienating a large portion of your target audience. Personally all I could think of in the kissing scene was stubble rash, which is not a turn-on for me.
Seriously though, well done - an excellent prototype, and a good point to continue from. I will avoid making any suggestions for the music, the scene selection or the beat bar, as they are all personal taste and you should just do what you feel works best for your production.
As an aside, what's the name of the scene with the girl on the floatie with the champagne? Overall good clips, but it did feel like you reused a few similar/identical ones.
Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
Oh, this sounds perfect! Softcore is what I like the most, and I'm really excited about your idea. I love to admire beautiful girls, even in full office clothing.
My main suggestion is to create a progression, starting with dense clothes, which then shifts to casual or street summer style, then to sleeping clothing. Perhaps with sheer tops, that start to appear approaching the end of the sleepwear part.
Slips would be great surprises! If not abused, or used too early. You could also dare to have sheer panties, and I'd probably not resist if, without any warning for us, the girls start removing their tops, and perhaps more, to finish with class!
My main suggestion is to create a progression, starting with dense clothes, which then shifts to casual or street summer style, then to sleeping clothing. Perhaps with sheer tops, that start to appear approaching the end of the sleepwear part.
Slips would be great surprises! If not abused, or used too early. You could also dare to have sheer panties, and I'd probably not resist if, without any warning for us, the girls start removing their tops, and perhaps more, to finish with class!
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Re: Trying non-nude content - please share some feedback
Great footage selection. Interesting to have the beatmeter on the sides. The stroke sound didn't bother me at first, but reading comments, I agree that its presence is strong. Maybe lowering the sound level just a little will help to keep everything in harmony. However, the complex beat patterns distract a lot. I would personally replace them with more standard ones, but still fast if it's the time for being fast.
In this particular ending case, "Prepare to Edge" should be more assertive like "Get to the Edge" because some people might not have enough time to Edge for 20 seconds as instructed. That happened to me, but I can always play it again now that I know.
Good work, zerooo!
In this particular ending case, "Prepare to Edge" should be more assertive like "Get to the Edge" because some people might not have enough time to Edge for 20 seconds as instructed. That happened to me, but I can always play it again now that I know.
Good work, zerooo!
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