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Ok this may be a weird question to ask, but has anyone here ever started getting a really bad desire for men because of this site? I don't know, I used to do at least 10 teases a day, occasionally post in the forum, and found every picture on here stimulating (Just about every one...). Within the past 4 months I really haven't been on here all that often, and if I do come on it's only for a few seconds to see if any new teases look good on the home screen. My big quarrel with this is that I'm not sure if I've desensitized myself to women, and I'm just looking toward men as a "new extreme", or if I might actually be gay. Like ok I guess I'll give a bit more info here since no one here knows who I am :devil: . Vagina's have never really done anything for me, boobs used to, but now I honestly think women look better with their clothes on, and I can/do get stimulated by that. Honestly, I've also never had sex with a woman, but I've also never had the urge to. I definitely think that one is this sites fault. Going through highschool only thinking about kink/taboo sex makes vanilla sex as dull as holding hands :P. Also, In the teases it's more the writing than anything that get's me going, which kind of goes back to a thread I made about grammar :rolleyes: .

I'm not sure if it's the dildo/sissy/whatever teases that may have sparked this, but it's just really worrying me at the moment, especially since I have had minor on again/off again feelings like this since I was in 7th grade (I think 8 years now).

Any input will be greatly appreciated, as long as "Fag!!!" doesn't come trolling about lol.
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Not really, not that I have done a lot of the sissy webteases, I tend to avoid them. Mainly because it doesn't turn me on.

Regarding being desensitized and getting turned on by girls in clothes, it could be just that. I have heard some nudists say that after being around naked people a lot they don't get turned on by nakedness anymore, however they get turned on by people in tight clothes and so on.

You shouldn't worry, as long as you're having fun and stay safe, why should you?

Good luck with your exploration ;-)
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Woman with clothes on turns me on more too. It could be some sexy underwear or simply hot woman with general closing.
At age of 13 I would have turned on by naked body instantly. But now when I've seen some naked bodies they just seems boring. If woman has clothes on it is that secret that turns me on. It's like with gifts, you are excited about them but if you would already knew what you gonna get before you get it it would not be that exciting anymore.

I actually had some fantasies about man, pretty recently in fact. But when I saw a picture of man, no matter how hot he is, I just shake my head. :no:
I know I'm not gay cos I love woman and I'm pretty sure I'm not a bi either. I never actually got attracted to man in real life, these are just fantasies. And even then they are kinda feminine man. I think I could blame hormones. When you didn't get to cum for long it's just messes up your mind. :lol:

Never actually did any sissy, feminisation or gay-enisation (whatever it's called) teases or things so that's not to blame. I also don't think that this site is to blame either. Maybe I'm a bi curious, or maybe I am bi, or maybe I'm just confused. And even if I would be bi, not a big deal. I don't really care. My life would still stay the same.
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this is a deep question
that I honestly recomend professional councling for

that being said there are some hormone changes with long term denial.
they can fluctuate.
Many guys who are very strait after many days of denial and daily teaseing might be
willing to talk about a fantasy setting of some guy on guy action.

how you understand this, process this,
is not an easy thing
are you 5% liking guys and 95% women today.. but after 3 weeks of denial your at 30% thinking of guys and 70% girls?
(this is just an example)
anyway what I am saying is that sexuality is not either/or
but shades of..

I am a heterosexual male, yet I dom guys
and write teases for guys..
does that make me gay?
well that all depends... what do you mean by that question?
things are not quite as Either/Or as they seem

This is why you may want to seek professional counselling.
not because you need to "fix" anything
but it helps to know what questions to ask yourself
and what you personally feel comfortable with as well as how you define yourself
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SissyNicole wrote:Ok this may be a weird question to ask, but has anyone here ever started getting a really bad desire for men because of this site?
Exactly what is it about men you desire? It could simply be curiosity. Or it could be somethig deeper.

You say you've had feelings since the 7th grade, right? Would you elaborate?

I think an interest in guys could be just because it's kinky, but the same could be said for the interest you say you've had in girls.

For me, for instance, I used to be interested in sex with girls, but those fantasies almost always ended up rather kinky, while my fantasies about men can frequently be more vanilla than kink.

So, if you are curious about whether or not you might be gay, I can offer the following adive:

http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7299
The thread I started last June, when I started questioning myself. You might see if there's anything relatable.

Also, keep in mind that this is really just sexual. Whether or not you like sports, beer, musicals, or fashion is obviously irrelevant; all that matters is whether or not you find men and/ or women attractive, and in what way. For instance, I'm gay, but I still think girls are attractive.

Sexuality isn't black-and-white. You like what you like, and that might not fit into any particular pre-established labels. Figure out what you like first, then if you want, figure out a label later.

Also, take your time, ask questions, and be honest with yourself.
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Thanks everyone! A lot of great input here. I'm going to basically slur all of the responses together here in no particular order lol.

I have definitely thought about counseling, but that costs money that I definitely don't have at the moment. I really want to, but can't :(. Going with the longterm denial theory, I used to think that, because that happened a few years ago a couple times. As for the past 4 months, I've had "release", almost daily so I don't think that is it. Something I have found rather disturbing though, is that when I release while thinking about women and kink, I get the guilty feelings that most guys tend to get from time to time. When I release thinking about men, it's completely different. I feel like keeping that thought in my head, and what it would be like to actually be with a guy.

Pertaining to the percentages, it varies depending on who I am with, and where I'm at. If I am around my redneck family, or friends my thought process and feelings sway towards women almost 100%. When I am alone or with my female friends who I have told about these feelings, it does a complete 180. I guess I can kind of relate this to my upbringing along with the feelings I've had since 7th grade. My aunt and I actually had a 2 hour long conversation about why "fags", are going to hell, because 2 homosexual men walked into her restaurant and did, "that gay voice". During the conversation I felt uncomfortable, but still sort of agreed with her, but when I got home I actually cried (this was about 3 months ago).

Starting in 7th grade I found myself looking at women (what preteen boy doesn't), but also occasionally looking at guys. I know at the time I definitely suppressed those feelings by thinking, "It would be really cool to hang out with him", or "He's too popular to talk to me". Add that with middle schoolers just learning about homosexuality, and getting incredibly biased opinions from upperclassmen, and you get a very confused little kid lol. This went on until my senior year, where these feelings started getting a little stronger. If I saw pictures of cbt I would focus more on the sub instead of the Domme. I thought it was because I wanted to be in the subs position, but now I'm not so sure. I will admit that about 3 months after I graduated I did have sex with a man. I absolutely hated it, but there were so many different factors there including my fears, nervousness, embarrassment, us meeting in a house that was being revamped and had no electricity, furniture, running water, and had power tools all over the place in half finished rooms, ect. It was basically doing it on the set of a "Saw" movie. So I don't really count it lol. I did actually skip a big stepping stone here, now that I think about it. The summer before I started my senior year of highschool, my cousins, there girlfriends, and I went to a concert. At this concert, this guy and I helped people get up to crowd surf for about 30 minutes, and that was all. I didn't say 3 words to the guy, but I can still remember the clothes he had on the color of his hair, the white bandana, everything. This was definitely the first crush I have ever had (girl or guy). I didn't think anything of it at the time, even though I couldn't stop thinking about this guy for the rest of the concert. After the concert we all went out to eat, and I couldn't stop talking about him, and I didn't even realize it until my one cousin's girlfriend asked me if I had a man-crush on him. That's when the initial thoughts started I suppose.

Now as I reread this it would seem that I am just a closeted homosexual, but for some reason, I just can't deal with that, accept it, ect. Something just doesn't feel right. I would say I am only attracted to about 10% of guys that I see, and it's nothing compared to the guy at the concert. Sometimes it actually feels like I am forcing myself to feel this way, and this feeling happens often. I'd say the biggest thing that just overall confuses me, is when I'm in macho, heterosexual mode around my family or friends, and I see a guy who is very attractive, the gay side seems to start breaking through. Same thing goes for when I am out with the friends who I have told, and I see a very attractive woman walk past. It just gets very aggravating.

I don't feel I NEED a label, I just absolutely need to get a grasp over this, which sort of involves getting a label (if that makes any sense at all). I won't date anyone because of the last relationship I had. I dated this girl for only about 3 weeks in December. I liked her, but one day, like someone flipped a switch, I couldn't find anything attractive in her, and found myself more attracted to guys again. I don't want to be in a relationship with one gender, and the a couple weeks later find them repulsive and move to the next, it's just not fair to anyone.

But anyways, I'm going to hit the hay. Thanks for reading my incredibly long rant (sorry :( ).
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If you were raised, and still live, in an anti-gay environment, that would obviously explaing why you feel so guilty about it. I think the best way to deal with that would be to join a LGBT message board; not only could they help you with your identity (like free counseling) but by hanging around others who are open (to varying degrees) and accepting of homosexuality, it could help your own confidence as well.

It does sound like you had a bit of a crush on that guy at the concert, but that's not necesarrily conclusive; I had a huge crush on a girl when I was 7, and minor crushes on girls since, even after puberty. The problem I had was basically, "am I really attracted to them, or do I just find them attractive?"


I think one's behaviour could be determined by one's company. When you're surrounded by men, you might find yourself acting macho because of their influence, maybe out of a subconscious effort to protect yourself by blending in (BTW I'm not a psychologist, so I don't know what the hell I'm talking about there).

You say you're only attracted to about 10% of men, right? How many girls are you attracted to? And keep in mind, that I'm gay, and don't find myself attracted to every guy I see; we're all attracted to different percentages, based on a number of personal preferences. If you find youself switching between attractions to guys and being attracted to girls, I would think that you might be bi.

And since this isn't really a simple matter (trust me, I wish it were) posts on this subject will propbably be a bit long.
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Well there has been quite a development, some good, a lot bad. My one friend invited me to a gay party last night. It was fun for the first half. Mostly a lesbian event, with very attractive girls. The thing is, I did not look at a single one and have any sexual thoughts running through my head whatsoever. And I swear I am not exaggerating here when I say that it was one giant orgy. Girls you would think are in porn were kissing, grinding, and even a few were going quite a bit farther than that, and I didn't feel anything. Out of the 8 guys I saw, 5 looked like they were 12. There was one guy who I did, and still do have a huge crush on. The problem there is that no one is able to give me an answer on whether or not he is bi/gay, and I am a bit too shy to just come up and ask him (especially with some of the things he was saying at the party). The last guy wasn't exactly my type, a very nice guy, but just overall too fairy-ish, and entirely too energetic. Unfortunately this is the guy my female friends decided was right for me, and kept pushing him on me, and he wrote his number on my arm :P.

This is where the "a lot of bad", starts taking place. Another female friend of mine showed up at this party, and I didn't tell her about me, so she obviously found out right then and there. Even though she is bi, this stressed me out, and made me very nervous. The guy they pushed on me was making me even more stressed out, and nervous. Then I started thinking about my family and other friends and I lost it. I told all of them I was going out to smoke a cigarette and ended up in my car for the last hour of the party thinking, crying (I'll admit it), and just being overall miserable.

I've been thinking about this through out my entire day, and the biggest thing that is making me miserable is the fact that I can't handle this. For one thing, I can't be rational in everyday life. When I think about this while I'm out and about I try and be a stereotype, or I will compare what I'm doing with stereotypes. When I'm calm and rational, such as right now, I can't think of a reason as to why I am doing it. It's like I'm not thinking while I'm over thinking at the same time. I will see a guy in the mall that is considered very attractive, and I push myself to try and become attracted to him, which, in turn, bums me out because at the time I am thinking, "why can't I find him attractive. I must not like men because I can't find him attractive." But then I turn around and see another guy, and it's like someone flipped the switch. The stereotype that I have grown up with is that all gay men are aroused at all times, and are attracted to every man on earth. I know this isn't true, but for some reason I try and become that. The other big reason I can't handle this is my family. My dad couldn't sit through the Robin William/Nathan Lane movie, "The Birdcage" (great movie btw). The general plot is that Robin Williams and Nathan Lane are a couple who live in Florida, and their straight son brings home a girl whose parents are hard core conservatives. There is absolutely no nudity, sex, and the most Williams and Lane do is hug. My dad can not handle this. I've already posted about my extended family, so you know where that will lead. Making this more public to try and understand this could lead to people knowing who I really don't want to know, which will end very badly.

There is another rant. Apparently I'm not getting any better at this. If it seems like I'm not making sense through any of this, chances are I'm not. Got less than 4 hours of sleep, put in a full 12 hours of work, and I'm letting my emotions get the best of me. That makes for some run on sentences, and doesn't really make a well thought out point O.o. But, Mr. Catboy, I will completely respond to your last post tomorrow when I am not drop dead tired, but I do want to say that I do not like the term bisexual. I feel it is a cop out for attention. "Hey I've only been with women my entire life and I'm trying to get into bed with you, a woman, but to show that I have a soft, gentle side I am also bisexual." Or better yet the 16 year olds who have thought that a "tranny", in porn was very hot so therefore they must be bisexual. Again, while rereading this it seems to not make much sense. I will edit/add tomorrow. Good night :P.
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I'd like to start by agreeing with Indigo, especially the whole thing.

Not that I'd know from experience, but your friends seriously need to consider your own interests when it comes to dating; pushing someone you're not interested in on you like that is rather inconsiderate, and (again, not that I'd know) seems like a waste of time and energy for all involved.

I'm sure you know this already (you mentioned it in your post) but you shouldn't push yourself. Don't compare yourself to stereotypes- seriously, the only thing gay guys actually have in common is an interest in men. What else they like (fashion, dance, musicals, sports, action, explosions, beer) and how they act (effeminate, masculine, boyish, girly) varies from person to person, just as it does with straight people. I can't stress that enough: Fuck stereotypes. Be who you are, like whomever and whatever you like, and don't let anyone but you tell you that you're wrong.
The stereotype that I have grown up with is that all gay men are aroused at all times, and are attracted to every man on earth. I know this isn't true, but for some reason I try and become that.
I know. I'd look at a guy, "Is he cute? Not really. Oh, maybe I'm not gay, then..." Gay doesn't work that way!
You don't have to like every guy you see to be gay.
I'd look at a someone and think about everything "I" found attractive about him, regardless of how I actually felt about those qualities.
A while back, while I was struggling with who I really was, how I really am, I saw Neil Patrick Harris on The Daily Show. Know how he acted? NORMAL! He was just this guy, an actor, talking about his newest movie (The Smurfs, I believe), talking about his kids... He's not a sterotype, at all. He was just sitting there, acting like himself. Honestly, I found that so inspirational, realizing that, you know... you don't have to "act" gay to be gay. You just need to act lke yourself; if you don't, you'll never figure out who you are.
Oh, make sure your friends realize that, too; they shouldn't expect you to be a sterotypical "gay friend," either.
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Wait, Neil Patrick Harris is gay?! I did not know that lol.

I look like i'm in my mid 20's, but I'm actually only 19 (almost 20). In the past, I have asked questions similar to this on other forums, or talked in chatrooms about this, and some people have said it is most likely my hormones going crazy. I think the first time I put up a similar post to this was after that concert a few years back, and I agreed that hormones were probably behind it. Now, being almost 20, and this being very prevalent in everyday life, I'm not so sure. I look back, and the only real desire I've had to have sex with women is to lose the V card and get my friends off my back about it. To be perfectly honest, I find vagina's rather disgusting (GASP), but I have been attracted to the female figure, such as curves, hair, clothes, and in some cases, breasts. This is, again, where I get confused and frustrated.

I mentioned last night that I don't like the term bisexual, but didn't really make sense when I elaborated. Scratch everything I said there, I was tired lol. To me, the term bisexual has a few different meanings that I have personally seen. First, it means that you are constantly aroused, and will get intimate with anything that crawls. Second, like I kind of stated before, it is a cry for attention. I have known people who say they are bi, and will continually talk about it time and time again, but never do anything with anyone of the same gender (I suppose that the same thing could be said for me and being gay, but it is hard to get the point across in a post on a forum.) Lastly, the term is used too casually by too many people, who don't truly understand it. At one point or another, every woman/man has found another person of the same gender attractive, maybe because the person was transgendered, maybe because it was just an isolated incident, but I've known numerous people who have started labeling themselves bisexual because of this "one time thing", and have bragged about it (I suppose again for attention). Overall I just don't like it. For me, I want to be one or the other, and I would prefer being straight as an arrow, but that apparently isn't working so well.

My friends at the party weren't trying to cause me any discomfort. I did want to at least talk with someone who was gay at the party, and have a good time, which I told them. Everything just happened so fast that I couldn't keep up, got embarrassed, nervous, ect. Plus my mind was completely on the one guy I have a crush on, so while the guy who my friends pushed on me was talking, I was still trying to find the other guy. It got confusing. However, I do agree completely, and will tell my friends to ease up a bit the next time we go out.

Another thing that is bothering me (I swear I'm usually a happy guy), is the fact that all of these emotions, and worries have been coming out, and have been pretty much destroying the life that I had. I have very redneck friends, I would do anything for them, and they have proved that they will do anything for me. They are good guys, but I haven't had a want to talk to them in the past month. Ok this is about to get even more lengthy so bear with me. I don't like the complete macho redneck thing. Don't get me wrong, I like beer, working on cars, camping, and some other things we do, but a lot of it is just for show, or a cover. Also, like Catboy said about the subconscious effort my mind goes through to protect myself, I don't like that, and have been trying to stay away to figure this thing out. A couple weeks ago was my buddies 21st birthday, and we had a party at his house where we were all going to get hammered. About half way through the night my lesbian friend, and my "bi" female friend were asked by the birthday boy himself to kiss. They were drunk and said yes, and the next thing we knew both of them were naked, having sex on the couch, while we threw singles at them. I was pretty drunk and tried to keep interest, but I couldn't. I just kept picking up the singles and throwing them back, talking, and flinging their panties across the room at my buddies. I just couldn't keep interest, and it showed. After they were done my friends started calling me gay, and that I should just admit it, and make everyone's life easier. I can't do that because I am not entirely sure yet, and do not want to deal with the consequences of saying something that will have that big of an impact on my life. They just kept on riding me about it for the next hour to the point that I took the 3/4 full bottle of jager we had and started just drinking away.

Then I started crying (first time I have ever been an emotional drunk), and I took the bottle to the next room and started chugging. My one buddy thought it would be a great opportunity to ask my over and over again if I was gay, which I don't think I answered, but I finished the bottle and passed out after punching him across the side of his face.

The way the actually found out about this whole thing is my big mouth. About a year ago, I told three female friends I was gay. I shouldn't have told them that, since I wasn't entirely sure, but I did. The last girl I told, couldn't keep the secret and told my best friend's mom (She is the one we go to with all our problems). They decided it would be in MY best interest that they would tell all of my friends about this, and have a coming out party for me. This was last June. We had spent all day working on my buddies car, and his mom made us a bbq for dinner, we are all outside eating when everyone stopped, and just stared at me. I couldn't figure out what was going on until my one friend said the words I will never forget, "We know and we don't care." I couldn't figure out what they were talking about, because it could have been anything, but he just kept repeating that every time I asked what he was talking about for 5 minutes. Finally he said, "We know your gay, and we don't care." I was shocked, embarrassed, about to pass out, but also I was kind of relieved. Relieved, until I saw the looks on everyone's faces. They did care, but they were waiting for me to tell them I wasn't, it was plain as day. So of course I denied it, which for some reason wasn't good enough, and they kept pestering me about it, and to this day they won't let it go. I can tell that they don't want it to be true, but they aren't giving me a voice here. They are all good guys, same with my family, but the way they were raised and the environment they are in has clouded their heads.

But all of this makes me think that their are only two options here. Either stay with my friends, and family, suck it up, and just live the way that I have been living. Or pretty much divorce them all together, and figure this out. It's a very lousy situation.

Going back to the whole emotion thing, I used to be a very energetic, happy guy. Then all of this started coming out and I am miserable. After the party when I was sitting in my car, I actually started looking up how to take the cadalytic converter off my car (if you don't understand look it up). It's just all of this is overloading me to a point that I can't really take. I was kind of happy just feeling this way in private, wondering the what if's, but after I took semi public everything went downhill.

Idk, that was the longest rant yet :-/
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To be perfectly honest, I find vagina's rather disgusting (GASP), but I have been attracted to the female figure, such as curves, hair, clothes, and in some cases, breasts. This is, again, where I get confused and frustrated.
Same here. I may be gay, but I still find women to be attractive. Like you said, their clothes, hair, curves, even breasts (sometimes), are all attractive and peasant to lok at, but I don't want to sleep with them. Of course, this is something that left me quite confused and frustrated. But there's a difference between finding someone attractive and being attracted to them.

With regards to bisexuality... apparently there are some, even in the gay community, who feel that so-called bisexuals simply use the term to make themselves seem more interesting. But if someone really is attracted to both genders (keep in mind many bisexuals may prefer one gender oer the other; the attraction doesn't have to be equal), I don't see why they can't call themselves bi. Being bi had nothing to do with constant arousal or nymphomania. They're basically just straight people who also like their own gender. Or gay people who happen to like the opposite gender also. But that may be a digression. I'll end by mentioning that though I do find women attractive, and there may be a few I'd "go straight" for, my attraction to women isn't that strong, while my attraction to men is. So while I'm not 100% homosexual, I'm still gay.

And to be honest, I think you are, too. The real peoblem, I think, is'n whether or not you're gay, but rather, how open to be about it. Where do you live, may I ask? I don't know your friends or your life as well as you, so I really can't say what your best course of action is, here. Maybe you should talk it over with the friends you've already told (if they're friends with your other friends), and ask them to promise not to tell anyone without your permission.

I wish I could be of more help there, but I don't have a lot of experience with having "friends." But I do understand your pressure, your frustration, your emotions, and the desire to jsut sit alone and cry, even though there's no way to do it sometimes.
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