why are the girls leaving

[Redner]

About the issue of PMs, what about something like this: Allow people to choose an option where they only receive PMs from people who are on a list they make (exception made for admins/mods of course). That could perhaps be a useful technical measure.

That said, I think the root cause is a social issue, and while technical measure could perhaps help, it certainly won't totally solve.

[Nadine]

Some of the girls stick around and just tend to stay in the shadows until they have something good to say. ;)

-L

*nods*

... or are in the mood for the attention *smiles*

[CheerfullyInsane]

Just a idea after reading this. Can we not get a block on PM's until say 50 posts?

Ick. No thanks.
First of all, it won't work. A limit of X number of posts, merely results in people posting garbage, cut'n'pasting like maniacs. Which in turn will mean the boards are wrecked. Seen it happen on way too many sites to doubt that.
The only way to avoid this would be for someone to personally check every post to see if it made sense, and somehow I suspect the Mods have better things to do.
It also has the side-effect of scaring people off to an even greater degree than being pummeled with PMs.
As soon as you divide people up into groups with different privileges, you stop the influx of new users.

Let's say that e.g. you come here and read a tease that *really* gets you going. Then you look up the author, read a few more of his/her teases, and figure that this is great but you have a few ideas that could improve them. Now, being a newcomer you're not liable to go to the boards and proudly exclaim your love for stuffing various veggies up whatever orifice, whilst humming "Starspangled banner" to your cat.
Real-life doesn't work like that. Instead, you try the PM.
Alas, you can't since it's blocked to newcomers.
Now, do you think the newcomer will then try to get to the posting-limit through serious posts, or simply think "Well, if they don't want my input, sod 'em." ?

Admittedly, this is an example of the more extreme sort, but the point is that once you have an elite group for lack of a better phrase, the community will stagnate.
I know that there are a ton of lurkers on here, and I was one of them for a loooong while.
Would I like to see more active participation by all people in here? Absolutely.
I just don't think you get them to do so by saying "Either you're active, or you'll have to leave"
Only way this works IMHO is if information is freely available in both directions.
If that means occasionally getting spammed to death, so be it. The alternative is certain suffocation.

Also, maybe us guys should all look into making a tease for the girls. We have all come here cause of the content for us. What is there for them? Why can't milovana be for both sexes in that sense?

If i find there is support behind this, i will get behind it and make sure i make a tease for you girls.

Sod the support. If you think it's a good idea, do it.
Every time the line "why doesn't someone......" is used I have to admit I cringe a little.
Why doesn't someone?
Because they're all thinking the same thing. They're just waiting for you to do it.
My apologies if that sounds vaguely patronizing, but that's the long and short of it.

Now, if you're on a particularly vitriolic streak, you could argue that I haven't written much on-site, so there's little reason to listen to anything I have to say.
Which is quite true. I've never written a tease, and I doubt I ever will. Nor do I partake in most of the "social" threads, or dip my toes into the chatroom.
I suppose I'm a semi-lurker to some degree.
But I'm not that invested in the whole D/s culture in the first place.
Don't get me wrong, I think Milo is a brilliant site, along with BoundAnna, FetLife and a few others.
But they're sites that I look at occasionally, and I don't expect any of them to guide me to eternal bliss, a life-long relationship or anything like that.
I just use them for fun, take from them what I can use, and in the rare cases that I feel I can contribute, I do that. Never gets more serious than that.

The point is that you want to have specific content, or want to push the site towards your specific taste, or to attract a certain audience, nobody is going to do it for you.

CheerfullyInsane

PS: And if I had a clue why girls keep leaving, do you really think I'd be sitting here?

[les]

Consider this,
Why not a progressive spam box,
Admin will get a heads up.

The the "PIB's" will then be filtered.

Also make it so the spammer is not aware .
Other than not receiving replies.
I believe a protocol is already in place to check multiple same person memberships.

For the admins to help we need good solid ideas,
not wishy washy dreams.


Les

[DarkMaster]

Alright ladies.

I've finally finished my first webtease.

If you've done ballsfull's teases, this one is at the same time much tamer but more evil and insideous. Or at least it tries to be, so beware.

I have lesson #2 in the works and I should have it up in a few days.

If I receive good feedback, I'll get a third and fourth installment in a little over a weak.

So, find some alone time and enjoy!

[Nezhul]

Clicked it through (I'm a guy).

The problems I see so far:
1) It's tease and denial site, so most girls here are into this. But this tease actually allows them to cum 2 times a day with not so much teasing (yet?).
2) if it's like ballsfull's then it means humiliation, wich is not for everyone.
3) and at last. Depending on a husband/boyfriend and the women it will be from very easy to almost impossible not to cum during sex. You know, some of the girls get off in like 2-3 minutes, and are completely unable to hold orgasms back. I'm just saying, that to prevent cumming with a skilled partner they'd have to just turn him down on sex, and I doubt someone'll risk irl relationship for a webtease for someone far and strange. Maybe it's ok to turn down a random guy on a party. But I doubt a girl, as they want relationships, will turn down a hubby or their boyfriend (not just random fucker). So that seems like a problem in your tease...

Also, you have 3 days till the next part, and I'd recomend you post it only in 3 days, not earlyer.

[masterstroke]

I think the question has to be asked; why aren't guys writing more teases for girls? Perhaps the women should start a "Dummies Guide for Teasing Women" under the Art of Webteasing section as primer for men on teasing women.

The obvious question is...why isnt there a girl version of Milovana?

Are girls too tecnically uneducated to create such sites?

*ducks*

[camel]

I think the question has to be asked; why aren't guys writing more teases for girls? Perhaps the women should start a "Dummies Guide for Teasing Women" under the Art of Webteasing section as primer for men on teasing women.

I agree. And if it's written by someone who doesn't nail it in her first draft, causing a discussion and revising it based on feedback, then all the better.

[Incubo]

I think the question has to be asked; why aren't guys writing more teases for girls? Perhaps the women should start a "Dummies Guide for Teasing Women" under the Art of Webteasing section as primer for men on teasing women.

Actually, this is being discussed in the art of webteasing forum.
My question is: Why does everyone expect guys to write teases for the girls? Do the girls do it for guys? Few, but certainly not very much. Mostly guys are writing for the guys. Why then don't the ladies do the same?

I say the same thing everytime I see a guy post a "tease request." You want it? Write it. Same thing here.

[Denise82]

Alright ladies.

I've finally finished my first webtease.

If you've done ballsfull's teases, this one is at the same time much tamer but more evil and insideous. Or at least it tries to be, so beware.

I have lesson #2 in the works and I should have it up in a few days.

If I receive good feedback, I'll get a third and fourth installment in a little over a weak.

So, find some alone time and enjoy!

Great tease!
finally something for the ladies.
Do you have a thread to discuss it?

[cummer]

I agree there just arnt enought sites for girls and i even get desprate and try to fit some of the guys instructions into a girl version :((

[les]

Bumped back into public notice

[Goddess Josephine]

Thank you les!

there are some good topics and then there is some nonsense. I also think you'd some women read and only post when they have something good say or contribute. In fact, from what i can see, there are a lot of lurkers on here. Finally, give them a chance before you question their intentions, call them out and accuse them. I don't scare easily but when I come in to discuss and see that I am publicly called out (even though he did edit his original post) I'm thinking, "WTF?"

You know if you guys were smart you'd invite specialized phone sex fantasy providers and sex workers here and if they want to add a sig, put a url on their photos let them. Engage them and make them feel welcomed. Then you'd get great discussion, ideas and professional teases. I've looked at some of them and you can tell they are written by men and many with incorrect spelling.

there are men here seeking such services and others who are not. Invite the right women to intelligent discussion and I bet "other" (non-sex workers) will start posting and sharing. IMO

[les]

My favourite four letter "F-Word"
is
FREE

And most others here like free as well.
Hence your initial problems.

Then again if free don't cut it then ????

[Snare]

Okay time for my two cents on this issue.

Well I see a problem with the way that you are going about it Josephine. Our webteases are meant to be free, as is the rest of the content on this site. When you are requiring someone to buy your content so that they may complete the tease, it is forced advertising. Now I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't charge for your content, I am sure you work very hard on it and you deserve to get something out of it. But from the way that I see it, you are suckering extremely horny men into paying for something they could get on another webtease for free. Yes I know that you are a phone sex provider, (I'm not sure of the technical term for it) you normally have extremely horny men paying for your services, which I have no problem with.

I think the last post in this topic http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 11#p100611 by seraph0x sums up exactly what is allowed and isn't allowed in the case of advertising.

Thanks for listening. Also check out the chat rooms you might met a few new friends.

Snare

P.S. seraph0x sorry to use this post again but this time it is for a good cause.