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[Human]

You might like to take a look at

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the- ... e/series-2

to see the false sexual values implanted in teenagers from watching porn.

The programme is not available in my area, is there an upload of the series somewhere?

[Nezhul]

The first sentence is a bit short-sighted.. of course it has that effect on some people, but I bet it does not have that effect on the majority, who will rather be frustrated.

Can't help those. They will be more frustrated when they have classmates who look like a sexbomb either way. One thing you see it in a movie, but when such beauty sits in one room with you - that's more frustrating. I think everybody understand that porn stars are picked up from hundreds and thousends of people.

Moreover, often times the images we see are not realistically achievable, even with exercise and proper diet.

You can't copy someone else's body. But you can olways buiold your own to look good. Breast and penis size is the only thing you cant affect by excersizes. But as I said it's parents busyness to explain it. For me there are flat chested girls who look (ANd Act!!!) hotter than girls with big breasts.

Labioplasty is real

Weeel I think it's US another strange thing - mass plastic surgery. Its very popular in US. But in Russia it's not that popular, and commoners don't do it at all (except for most bad cases). It's good that way.

[bookworm]

to see the false sexual values implanted in teenagers from watching porn.

Most false sexual values are implanted in teenagers through the music industry and Hollywood teen films, and not through porn. Watch any rap video on MTV, and you'll see big breasted, big assed women sitting in a car with some rap artist. Watch any television show, and they always have the star be some blond-hair blue eyed bimbo (Baywatch anyone, Britney Spears (which the media modeled as the perfect girl), etc.).
Watch any porn, and you'll see mostly brunettes with small tits being the most popular porn stars.

So I ask you, which is the false sex value: the blonde hair, blue eyed, big breased, big assed women, or brunettes with small tits. Porn is wonderful for society, besides that Channel 4 is worthless bullshit.

Thank you for your considered opinion of Channel 4. I am not talking about the appearance of women but the fact that porn gives a totally false impression of real-life sexual behavior. I assume most real women of your acquaintance are not big fans of anal intercourse, gagging, bukkake, gang-bangs etc?

[denton]

I think everybody understand that porn stars are picked up from hundreds and thousends of people.

Well, apparently not. But even if you do there can still be a subconscious effect.

Weeel I think it's US another strange thing - mass plastic surgery. Its very popular in US. But in Russia it's not that popular, and commoners don't do it at all (except for most bad cases). It's good that way.

It's also very real in the UK and in Germany and probably many other western countries as well.

[Nezhul]

I assume most real women of your acquaintance are not big fans of anal intercourse, gagging, bukkake, gang-bangs etc?

I know quite a few girls who love anal and don't imagine good fuck without it.
As for everything else - that's fetishes. Some like it, some don't. Again it's a responsibility of parents to form an appropriate view.

BTW deepthroat is quite rare if you look at a whole mass of porn. It's just another fetish. All it does is tells you: "someone like it THAT way too"

[janmb]

BTW deepthroat is quite rare if you look at a whole mass of porn. It's just another fetish. All it does is tells you: "someone like it THAT way too"

And furthermore, it's only healthy for kids in their exploratory age to be exposed to the myriad of sexual aspects, options, fetishes, call it what you will. I'd much rather have them exposed to these things in a guided, healthy manner rather than risking one of two things: They either living the rest of their lives thinking missionary penetration is all sex is ever about, or meeting fetishes in a forced or unhealthy manner - being harmed by it rather than possibly enjoying them for the rest of their lives.

Then again, I belong to those who pity the people having vanilla sex lives - even in the many many cases where those people think they have a great sex life. And who am I to tell them they don't!! I'm sure they do. For those who are informed and try out new things (or consciously choose not to) that's fine, their choice and all well. But for all those who simply know nothing about it and lack the imagination to understand that sex has so many other aspects - those I pity. Because even if they think they have great sex lives, and even if they really do, they could *probably* had so much more. I do not want my kids to end up in that category - regardless of age.

[janmb]

....the fact that porn gives a totally false impression of real-life sexual behavior.

I don't think anyone would deny that. A lot of porn (not all) gives a very jaded or twisted image compared to real life sex - even in the fetish world.

Which makes it even more important to let your kids have a guided, healthy encounter with porn rather than walking into the pitfalls without any help to avoid getting all the wrong ideas.

The problem is that many parents think they have the possibility to control whether or not their kids are exposed to porn - or when. This is an illusion at best.

The only two options available to you as a parent are:
1: Let your kids watch porn on their own, without consent and without guidance
2: Teach your kids about porn, what is real and what isn't, what is ok and what isn't, partner respect, communication etc etc

I choose the second option for my kids - regardless of age. The important part is to have that talk and start that process BEFORE they start watching porn on their own. Which can be very hard, because you should expect that to happen very early - FAR earlier than you might be comfortable with. The important part is to hear them out, bait a little for how much they know or are interested in, and make sure to feed them guidance early enough. It's better they learn from YOU than by themselves or from kids their own age.

[Nezhul]

I don't have kids but the only real problem in teaching them about porn early I see, that small kids will tell their friends of what they saw and heard from you, regardles of if you ask them to keep it quiet. And then you are facing a bunch of enraged parents of those kids plus the school manager at best. And I personally fear that at worst someone may start campaign against you to strip you from parent's rights, accusing that you harass your own children sexually, which of course is not the case but the law may judge otherwise. In many European countries (and sadly in Russia too) laws of child protection become more or less exaggerated, giving someone the right to strip parent's rights for ANY "violence" towards your children, be it rightful and necessary punishment in the way of ass-spanking, or, say, home arrest. Those means are necessary, but laws allow certain people take your children away if they want. And with time it aint getting any better.
That's what I fear the most in having a child.

[janmb]

I don't have kids but the only real problem in teaching them about porn early I see, that small kids will tell their friends of what they saw and heard from you, regardles of if you ask them to keep it quiet. And then you are facing a bunch of enraged parents of those kids plus the school manager at best.

That's half the fun

But yeah, there is always the odd chance that some retard is going to try to push the children's care stuff on you, taking the kids away from you - but at least in my country that will never ever happen based on something like this. Not even an interview. And I'll be damned if I'm going to base the upbringing of my kids on fear of others' opinions.