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spread the word!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:12 am
by draucus
Re: spread the word!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:49 pm
by SexualChoc
incase you want to skip the clip
It is about
SOPA
or Stop Online Piracy Act
which has prosecuted some people for using intelligence property items.
Re: spread the word!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:10 pm
by dix
It's about arse-holes who gave people software, knowing what they would do with it, and then prosecuting them for doing so. Both acts of course which made them large amounts of profit.
More world police bullshit!
Dix.
Re: spread the word!!!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:06 am
by eric
SOPA is actually a bill the US Senate is trying to pass right now, the house has a similar bill they are trying to pass called PIPA. Neither have been passed and no one has been prosecuted. What the bills are trying to do is give intellectual property owners the power to block websites from DNS in the US an put the responsibility of content on the site owners. This is different from the current DMCA process that protects sites from the content it's users post.
This really means nothing if you live outside of the US, however it puts the US on the same plane of internet censorship as Iran and China and I would imagine if the bill passes, isn't vetoed and isn't killed in the court system that it will be coming to a country near you.
The DNS blocking is targeted at sites that are hosted outside the US that can't be sued into oblivion. Basically creating a DNS blacklist with no oversight and a guilty until proven innocent mentality. This does absolutely nothing to block someone access to a website, if you know the IP you can still reach the site even if DNS is blocked.
The wording of the bill is idiotic and basically says that just linking to copyrighted material could bring you into the DNS blocking cross-hairs, or if you are hosted in the US legal repercussions. That could be bad for sites like; I dunno lets say Google.
As an IP owner I do not have to go through a court system, I can simply take down your site. Then you as a site owner have to appeal your block, get un-blocked and then enter a period of oversight. Sounds fun right?
Could this hurt Milovana? Yeah, most likely. Probably not immediately, but there has been one industry eerily quite in this whole thing and that is the porn industry. Do you think they are not chomping at the bit to take down youporn and xtube? It will happen if this bill passes and if after all the lawsuits are settled all those big sites have been taken down, they will turn to the low hanging fruit or maybe go after the smaller sites first, they can't afford lawyers.
This bill is barrel rolling through the US legislative branch because it is meant and briefly worded to protect IP owners. The problem is the loose wording it uses to define an offender and the actions it allows to be taken against them. And almost every congress person for each bill has no idea what the internet is, how it works and how DNS policing would fuck shit up.
If you live in the US I would suggest you contact your congress person(s) even if only by email. Each one has cronies that keep tallies on the number of correspondence they receive for or against every bill. Sadly that is then compared to how much money a lobbyist has previously thrown at them.
Re: spread the word!!!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:18 am
by dix
eric wrote:This really means nothing if you live outside of the US
http://www.techwatch.co.uk/2011/06/20/b ... ing-trial/
Dix.
Re: spread the word!!!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:19 am
by les
Can anyone tell me of a DNS server that is in no way uses American data?
I currently suggest "Open DNS" for child protected surfing.
Will sites listing School information be subject if they list extracts from other sources.
Like many things the only reason this is happening is because of percieved loss of revenue.
Here in the UK I believe that a shop has to have a license from the preforming rights association to play a radio.
The station you listen to paying the same people to be able to transmit that material, in the first place.
Re: spread the word!!!
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:17 pm
by janmb
les wrote:Can anyone tell me of a DNS server that is in no way uses American data?
DNS works by propagation, so in essence, all servers ultimately share data with one another. Unless you set up a private DNS proxy or otherwise shield your DNS server from being updated by others, sooner or later any entry added to any DNS server will eventually propagate (intentionally) to all other servers. Any fully compliant DNS server is meant to work like that.
Which is in turn another aspect making this "Act" so problematic: It will necessitate segregation within the DNS system - which it is far from designed for at all. It basically will require an entirely new system, or at least another management layer added on top of it to allow regions/sectors avoid input from US-based servers.
Or in short, with the way DNS currently works, and should always work, SOPA will let US authorities govern everyone else as well as their own citizens, when it comes to domain management on the net. Sad, but true.