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Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:19 pm
by bookworm
Dear Folks,

I don't use a chastity device, but I spend about 4 hours a day masturbating and edging. I have a fairly long refractory period (usually a day) so over the years I have tried to deny my orgasm for longer and longer periods.

Currently I orgasm maybe once a week but I would like to try extending the period.

Are there any health risks associated with this? I imagine many of the members here go for much longer periods between orgasms. So I was hoping you could give me some advice.

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:04 pm
by Human
4 hours a day masturbating??? :look:

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:24 pm
by shell
Hi *smile*

The best advice I have for you is to try a week and a day...then a week and two days...and so forth.
Every person is different. Some can only make it a week, some can make it months and some even years.

I have some personal opinions about what takes place in the body, with absolutely no medical facts to back it up with.

I believe that chemicals are released in the body, every time there is sexual play, to the point of getting close to, or edging.
Eventually, all that chemical build up is going to make you nuts. *giggling* Not "really" nuts, but make it so that all you think about is sex.
Since we are all different, I think each of us has a different tolerance to that chemical and therefore, different amounts of time that we can stand without orgasm. *Smile*

Good luck *Smile*

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:07 pm
by bookworm
Human wrote:4 hours a day masturbating??? :look:
What can I say. I am retired. I have time on my hands. A man needs a "hobby." So 2 hours in the afternoon and another 2 at night.

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:18 pm
by les

I must ask
              Which lube do you use to stand up to that level of use ?

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:27 pm
by Human
bookworm wrote:
Human wrote:4 hours a day masturbating??? :look:
What can I say. I am retired. I have time on my hands. A man needs a "hobby." So 2 hours in the afternoon and another 2 at night.
How the F did you build up that stamina?
I can only stay erect like 6-8 hrs per week, and I havent had an orgasm in a month :-/

You must have a super-penis :-/

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:00 pm
by bookworm
les wrote:
I must ask
              Which lube do you use to stand up to that level of use ?
I use Albolene. It is the best lube I have found over the years.

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:02 pm
by bookworm
Human wrote:
bookworm wrote:
Human wrote:4 hours a day masturbating??? :look:
What can I say. I am retired. I have time on my hands. A man needs a "hobby." So 2 hours in the afternoon and another 2 at night.
How the F did you build up that stamina?
I can only stay erect like 6-8 hrs per week, and I havent had an orgasm in a month :-/

You must have a super-penis :-/
My wife took a unilateral vow of celibacy back in 1985. My penis is well on the side of average.

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:23 am
by Alliteration
bookworm wrote:Dear Folks,

I don't use a chastity device, but I spend about 4 hours a day masturbating and edging. I have a fairly long refractory period (usually a day) so over the years I have tried to deny my orgasm for longer and longer periods.

Currently I orgasm maybe once a week but I would like to try extending the period.

Are there any health risks associated with this? I imagine many of the members here go for much longer periods between orgasms. So I was hoping you could give me some advice.

Some studies have indicated an inverse correlation between number of orgasms and risk of prostate cancer (basically, more orgasms = lower risk). Other studies, however, show that there is no correlation. In any case, regular prostate exams as you get older are a good idea, regardless of what you do.

There may be some minor mental health risks associated with long periods of denial, depending on how "frustrated" you get yourself. Just as long as you make sure you don't start snapping at people, or forgetting your responsibilities, you should be ok.
shell wrote:with absolutely no medical facts to back it up with.
You're wrong :smile:

I don't have time to type up a long explanation at the moment, but oxytocin, dopamine, prolactin, epinephrine, and endorphins all play parts in the varying stages of sex.

Dopamine is probably the most important one - it and prolactin cancel each other out; dopamine plays a part in sexual arousal/desire, while prolactin gives you that "satisfied" feeling after you're done. Without completing a sexual response cycle, your dopamine levels are going to be higher than normal. The reason why people feel the way they do during periods of denial is that dopamine does so many different things. It affects learning, reward-seeking behavior, heart rate, blood pressure, and all kinds of other things. That's why when you're denied, you don't just really really want an orgasm (the way you would really want some food if you were hungry), you get frustrated, squirmy, more willing to do things you might not normally do, have trouble concentrating, etc.

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Anyway, bookworm, as long as you're able to take a step back and take an objective look at how you're feeling (both physically and mentally), I'd say that you should be fine.

But of course, I am not a doctor.

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:21 am
by shell
Alliteration wrote:
shell wrote:with absolutely no medical facts to back it up with.
You're wrong :smile:

I don't have time to type up a long explanation at the moment, but oxytocin, dopamine, prolactin, epinephrine, and endorphins all play parts in the varying stages of sex.

Dopamine is probably the most important one - it and prolactin cancel each other out; dopamine plays a part in sexual arousal/desire, while prolactin gives you that "satisfied" feeling after you're done. Without completing a sexual response cycle, your dopamine levels are going to be higher than normal. The reason why people feel the way they do during periods of denial is that dopamine does so many different things. It affects learning, reward-seeking behavior, heart rate, blood pressure, and all kinds of other things. That's why when you're denied, you don't just really really want an orgasm (the way you would really want some food if you were hungry), you get frustrated, squirmy, more willing to do things you might not normally do, have trouble concentrating, etc.
Cool! And mom and dad said I could never be a doctor. *giggling*
Thanks luv *Smile*

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:28 pm
by bookworm
Anyway, bookworm, as long as you're able to take a step back and take an objective look at how you're feeling (both physically and mentally), I'd say that you should be fine.
Many thanks for that excellent explanation. I am going to continue denying myself and see how long I can last. Currently 2 weeks.

I had a prostate exam recently and all is well back up there. I do notice I get more "antsy" the longer I wait between orgasms but as I don't operate heavy machinery or drive a truck any lapses in concentration don't have dire consequences.

Re: Detrimental Effects of Denial?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:46 pm
by Human
Alliteration wrote: I don't have time to type up a long explanation at the moment, but oxytocin, dopamine, prolactin, epinephrine, and endorphins all play parts in the varying stages of sex.

Dopamine is probably the most important one - it and prolactin cancel each other out; dopamine plays a part in sexual arousal/desire, while prolactin gives you that "satisfied" feeling after you're done. Without completing a sexual response cycle, your dopamine levels are going to be higher than normal. The reason why people feel the way they do during periods of denial is that dopamine does so many different things. It affects learning, reward-seeking behavior, heart rate, blood pressure, and all kinds of other things. That's why when you're denied, you don't just really really want an orgasm (the way you would really want some food if you were hungry), you get frustrated, squirmy, more willing to do things you might not normally do, have trouble concentrating, etc.
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I'll post my recent experiences with denial.
Earlier (denial duration = 3 weeks), would get really horny after 10 days, but I was looking at porn daily, doing some kind of stroking. The hardest part was going to sleep on some days as my heartrate would stay elevated, I've posted on this before.

This time, duration = 5 weeks and going; its been different. Weeks 2-3 were stressful because of work so I didnt have a sex drive. After that I went back to stroking and porn, but I've not felt particularly horny. No morning erections. No trouble sleeping, no constant state of horniness, no desire of orgasms during day. When I stroke, its more of a physical sensation of wanting to empty semen (like having a full baldder); and not a case of "oooh I'm so horny I need an orgasm, my heart is pounding"

Its been getting dark earlier, so maybe thats got something to do with it... hmmmm..