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Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:01 am
by DeniedHard
I just started one a few weeks ago for anxiety and now I have delayed orgasm. I know it's a common thing but it kind of ended up being a little weirder than I thought. I pretty much lost all control over my orgasm, like I can't edge or anything like that. If I stop for even a few seconds I pretty much have to start all the way over. It's kind of hard work really. I mean it might have been a nice side effect if I had a problem but I don't think I did and I don't have an intimate relationship anyway.

I hate having to choose between living a normal life free from the grasp of anxiety and having normal sexual functionality.

Has anyone else here been in this situation. What did you do? I wonder if I should give it more time to see if things change or request a different antidepressant or try only therapy and herbal remedies. I know I should mention it to my doctor but it's kind of weird bringing it up and I don't have a steady one yet.

Thanks guys.

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:13 am
by SexualChoc
well I will be bold enough to say I am
yes it causes problems with edging
and having an orgasm is rather difficult

(1) talk to your doctor about it, Anything with medication you should talk to a doctor.

(2) What I do (while your waiting on your appointment) add in vibrators, put some on balls and even anally.
It still difficult to cum, but may be possible this way.
(3)think about how awesome the denial is! look at the Bright side, I mean you can not ask for more perfect denial! sometimes thinking about the denial helps you get to an orgasm.

Sometimes medication like this has to be at a certain level in your blood stream, it MAY be possible that
when that level is reached you can retrain body to orgasm, or not.
Everyone is different.

Now usually I am the one with creative solutions but Anti-depressants is Really a medication you should NOT mess around with
without a Consult.
So
SEE A DOCTOR!

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:38 am
by Nezhul
I think antidepressants are only for very VERY sick people. Like the ones who are already on the brink of madness. All the rest should handle their problems themselves rather than going to the psychologist or especially drinking chemistry. Your problems will only be fixed by you - chemistry will just make them worse in time. So maybe rather you try to handle it without meds, eh? The best solution. It's harder than taking a pill and feel happy tho.

consider that off topic.

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:41 am
by DeniedHard
Thank you Chocolate for sharing your experience with me I really appreciate it. You are right about the denial aspect of it that had been on my mind. Maybe I could experiment with that way of thinking a little more and see if it something that could actually be a positive thing. So far though I'm so tired and flustered by that point that I'm usually thinking this could be my only chance and just say **** it. I guess it's just so different than what I'm used to. Before I liked being denied but I knew that if my mood changed or whatever I could finish up quick if I wanted to. Now I have to pretty much decide before what the plan is and that kind of takes the spontaneity out of the whole experience which is something I really enjoyed--the idea of not really knowing what could happen and placing myself in situations like that.

Yea, Nezhul you're probably right but I've been trying to deal with this for many years. Nothing has really changed but you are right I haven't explored every other avenue of self improvement yet like cognitive therapy or something. Although the reason I even tried these drugs is because I had to go to the ER 4 times in one week for my anxiety and panic and I just got fed up with not being able to live the life I wanted. I'm not sure I would say I was on the edge of madness, but it was pretty bad.

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:52 am
by EternalLust
The antidepressants work by relaxing your brain, which has effects as relaxing muscles (whiuch is necessary for edging: contracting muscles to stop orgasm) and slowing decisions. Some people might not be able to drive especially when they start or increase doses.

Well for small doses the body will most probably adapt after a few weeks and everything might go back to normal, but in case you take a strong dose some effects will remain. Also the kind of medicin is very important.

And well most of the time antidepressants can be avoided by finding a way to relax and accept life, and doctors tend to over use medications. But this should be discussed case by case with a specialist. Once a doctor advised mne to take some I refused which led me to make my life better and learn how to control my stress. But it was a long journey.

Please note that once started to anti-depressant can't be stopped without being supervised by a doctor.

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:37 am
by SexualChoc
EternalLust wrote: Please note that once started to anti-depressant can't be stopped without being supervised by a doctor.

that's why I said see a doctor
if you want to change or get off them you need a consult!
PS, I changed mine to a lower dose...AFTER talking to Doctor.

Nezhul.. frankly I found your comment condescending.
though I do thank you for being honest with your ideas.

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:01 am
by Nezhul
I didn't meen to call anyone mad or sick if they use the pills. On the contrary I wanted to say that today some doctors tend to prescribe the stuff to completely healthy people with just a little bit of problems like stress or light depression.... That's not right, all I want to say. If that goes on soon we'll be feeding our children a dozen of pills from the first year of their lives.......

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:52 am
by gerard_1976_uk
Hi

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthin ... sants.aspx

This is a link to some really useful information on mental health and antidepressants, including prescribing guidelines written by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) - a body created by the UK's National Health Service to examine evidence for best practice. The documents on the site are free to download and may be useful in preparing for a discussion with your doctor.

I hope things get better for you soon!

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:19 pm
by les



Rolls up sleeves and wades in.

Please be patient, if the pill change/s is/are less than a few weeks the body will be adapting to the changes that it is undergoing.

Read the leaflet included with the pills so you are informed about the reasons the pills are prescribed also the circumstances to be observed when you actually take the pills as well as the known side effects.

NICE is a two edged sword because it is primarily concerned if the cost of the medication is worth the expected improvements it gives.

Most know I take a lot of pills to keep my body working.
Much I have said is based on personal experiences, not with the same medications but with the ones I take.
As well as conversations with my Doctors and Specialists and their advice given.

They agree not all meds are instantaneous All Sweetness and Light.
I am not afraid to ask questions and point out annoyances, nor should you as fine tuning can alleviate most unwanted side effects.



Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:42 pm
by gerard_1976_uk
Les - cost IS a factor; but it is not the primary one. Reading through the guidelines should make this clear.

The process of developing a guideline is based on evidence of effectiveness, incorporating the views of practitioners and service users. It's not primarily cost.

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:28 pm
by les

NICE have stopped doctors prescribing certain drugs because of cost.

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I always ask my Doctor first
Then I may ask further after doing research
From more than one other source and not just a "Fact" reposted.

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:31 pm
by gerard_1976_uk
Hi again, Les

It's a debate ongoing constantly and one that's being engaged in by people who are far more knowledgeable than I am, certainly. I would suggest, though, that the example you provide has been produced by bodies with pretty well established agendas - e.g. the Daily Mail is notorious for its dislike of NICE...

Yes, there are examples of drugs not being recommended, but this is based on a calculation of cost v effectiveness, with the emphasis on effectiveness. From what I've read, the focus is on whether a drug can provide a sufficient quality of life.

However, there aren't simple answers to this debate and there WILL definitely be cases where beneficial drugs are not supported, sadly; but, very often, the rejection of these drugs will free up funds that can be far better spent on other therapies. For example, in the event that I had the choice between funding a drug that would give me an extra couple of months of life in agony, or a better funded palliative care service that would help me die with dignity, I know what I'd prefer!

Getting back on topic, though, I'd still suggest that the original poster looks at my link, as it will provide a really good starting point for engaging with the agenda (especially as NICE tends to produce 'lay' summaries, which I certainly find useful!). I'm pretty sure the Cochrane library is free access, too - which produces systematic reviews of the evidence on all sorts of issues and tends not to focus on cost at all.

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:54 pm
by les


I still stand with my underlying premise

"Ask/speak to the/a Quack"

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:58 pm
by gerard_1976_uk
Agreed - but ensure you're well informed beforehand: there's a huge variation in the knowledge doctors have of mental health matters!

Re: Anyone on an antidepressant?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:08 pm
by FlinstoneToes
Hi there

I like to add my 2cents so to speak. Antidepressants are vital in combating depression and or anxiety, the reason why is your brain is caught in a cycle in which the stressor/anxiety causes you to produce less monoamines (neurotransmitters) that affects your psycho-social parts of the brain. So no matter how much you "will" it, you cannot make your body produce more of the needed chemicals in the brain that keeps us even-keel or content. Just like if you have an infection, you cannot will it to go away, but instead you get antibiotics or other meds to treat the infection.

Now in addition to taking meds, what some of the others wrote is true, seeking counseling to deal with the triggers that causes your anxiety is also important too. By recognizing what it is that's causing your anxiety can be a tremendous help because you learn to either
A-avoid it
or
B-coping skills to address the triggers that causes your anxiety

For many years I was told I had either depression or anxiety and it wasn't till I turned 30, I was diagnose with having ADD. Of course when you have ADD it affects many areas of your life and can lead to anxiety and depression. I am not saying this is the case for you but its important to examine the reasons behind your anxiety too.

On a side note, I had one great therapist who pointed out to me, that its a lot easier to worry about things or others (as I used to do) then to worry about ourselves. Its a good way to distract us from our own issues but the fact you mentioned having to go to the ER makes me think there is much more to it than just what I just wrote. But my point is, a good therapist can help you have the "ah-ha" moments and you may end up with a completely different diagnoses than previously thought.

I do know that it takes a good 4-6 weeks before you will feel the benefits of the medication but whether or not it will continue to affect your sex drive/orgasms I couldn't say. Again a good psychiatrist can help you determine the best meds, do not rely on a family doctor for your brain matters, rely on a psychiatrist. And find a good counselor/therapist to examine the reasons behind your anxiety. You can PM any time if you have more questions or just to vent. It takes a strong person to ask for help when they needed, so consider yourself pretty damn strong! ;-)