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I had my first effect at non-trivial t&d. First 6 days of denial (easy). Then a 2 hr tease session on day 6, without any orgasm. After the stroke session, I felt a bit wierd. Not horny, but a little imcomplete. And for the first couple of hrs after the session, it felt like my bladder was not fully empty. Uneventful sleep. On day 7, I went for another stroke session. Now, usually, after a normal 2hr stroke day, the quality of my erections go down for 2-3 days. Usually, I would not have been able to/iinterested in stroking the day after a 2hr stroke session in which I came. But this time, no problem. Horniness level as usual. I was planning to not come on day 7, but towards the end (after about 1hr 45min), I was listening to some edging audio by the talented Ms Ally, and I could not hold back. I came more than usual.

This got me wondering ---

1. Is there an affect on testosterone production if a guy is teases but he does not come?

2. What is the deal with the refractory period: its like if I come after a long teasing session, the quality of erections goes down for the next 2-3 days? Is this normal? When I did not come, I did not feel more horny, yet erection was great the next day. Its like ejaculation releases some chemical that makes the penis tired for many days Is this the same for everyone?

For me, I find the following:

- stroking/teasing sessions - always leave me horny, wanting more, bigger, stronger erections
- edging - want more, need more ... bigger, stronger erections
- cum after/during teasing/edging, and I'll either remain horny, or be horny again within the hour. Sometimes the erection isn't up to par, but I've never felt anything wrong/weak/whatever with it ... it's an erection, it's just a RAGING HARD ON .. and yes, there is a difference ... edge yourself for 1 hour, then tie your cock/balls up and do a bit more edging ... yep ... that would be the latter ...

I've had times, where I cum every day, and it just leaves me hornier ... that'll go on for about 3-5 days, then I start to calm down (ie exhaustion )

Just to keep things in perspective, I would expect to find this more "normal" for younger guys in their 20s ... (ie recovery etc) not so much for my age range, ~40 but I'm not complaining ... (and neither is the wife hehe)

For me if I stroke or edge too much I "lose interest" after a while, probably because my cock gets too tired, but the day after I feel horny again. After all I think less chance to stroke is harder too endure than let's say 30 edges a day. It keeps excitement and longing up.
When I cum after a denial period I always come 2-3 more times the same day. ;)

When doing Long term denial,
Like 30 days or more with no kind of draining, no milking, nothing
I have noticed a defiant change in emotional chemistry I get angry quicker and very moody.

I believe that the body reacts the longer your in denial.. you get more aggressive,
even more dominant, because your body chemistry, I believe wants you to get the girl , so since you are being passive you get flooded with
chemicals to make you aggressive. .. I am thinking animalistic here, our animal side.
I am not sure that makes sense to you... but it just my theory, based on how I feel after long denial.

Now I never paid attention to the loss of erections in the early part, first day or 3, I will have to pay more attention,
It is possible your age, or other factors are involved there
and you may even want to talk to a doctor about it. just to be safe.

also you may want to change how you torment yourself, try slower strokes so you have long slow build up to an edge and just do a few edges like 2 your fist day and stay no touch... also helps if you do something to remind yourself you are no touch, wear a bracelet of string is one I usually tell subbies to do. But any little reminder all day helps.


I suggest this: Day one of denial do ONLY 2 edges
then day two do four, then day three do 6... and day five 10... and so on.
I only recommend this because you are only doing seven days... if you decide to go longer than a week, I will be happy to give you suggestions.

Interesting...I wonder if the increased agression you mention is a result of increased testosterone?

Age should not be a problem for me..I'm not even 35 yet!

But maybe it is? Morning wood is now very rare for me. Compared to 10 years ago when it was a frequent occurence, now, its like once a month, maybe.Even during my 6 day denial --- no morning wood.

During my 6 day denial period, I abstained from any sexual activity. It was pretty easy actually; no effort required. No increase in horniness either. Wierd. I wasnt even horny. The only effect was during the stroke session on day 6.

Maybe my testosterone is on the fritz.

But sometimes I get contradictory signals, like my previous best for orgasms in a day was 4, in my teens, and it took a lot of effort. Just a few months ago, I had 8 orgasms in a 10 hr period...but then now I have super hot porn to help, and in my teens, no such help.

Human wrote: But maybe it is? Morning wood is now very rare for me. Compared to 10 years ago when it was a frequent occurence, now, its like once a month, maybe.Even during my 6 day denial --- no morning wood.

I don't think age has much a factor there, as I said, I'm pushing 40, and still getting regular morning wood (more frequent - ironically - the day after a release)

But sometimes I get contradictory signals, like my previous best for orgasms in a day was 4, in my teens, and it took a lot of effort. Just a few months ago, I had 8 orgasms in a 10 hr period...but then now I have super hot porn to help, and in my teens, no such help.

Again, wouldn't worry about this, this seems like age, I used to be able to do multiple orgasms in a day, easy, nowadays, I still can, however, it depends mostly on me being "in the mood" ... and that's as much physical as it is mental ...

Found the following study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence.
Exton MS, Krüger TH, Bursch N, Haake P, Knapp W, Schedlowski M, Hartmann U.
Source
Institut für Medizinische Psychologie, Universitätsklinikum Essen, Germany. [email protected]
Abstract
This current study examined the effect of a 3-week period of sexual abstinence on the neuroendocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm. Hormonal and cardiovascular parameters were examined in ten healthy adult men during sexual arousal and masturbation-induced orgasm. Blood was drawn continuously and cardiovascular parameters were constantly monitored. This procedure was conducted for each participant twice, both before and after a 3-week period of sexual abstinence. Plasma was subsequently analysed for concentrations of adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisol, prolactin, luteinizing hormone and testosterone concentrations. Orgasm increased blood pressure, heart rate, plasma catecholamines and prolactin. These effects were observed both before and after sexual abstinence. In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.

Wonder what the effect is due to teasing and denial?

I want to build more muscle...does this mean denial?

Human wrote:Found the following study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence.
Exton MS, Krüger TH, Bursch N, Haake P, Knapp W, Schedlowski M, Hartmann U.
Source
Institut für Medizinische Psychologie, Universitätsklinikum Essen, Germany. [email protected]
Abstract
This current study examined the effect of a 3-week period of sexual abstinence on the neuroendocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm. Hormonal and cardiovascular parameters were examined in ten healthy adult men during sexual arousal and masturbation-induced orgasm. Blood was drawn continuously and cardiovascular parameters were constantly monitored. This procedure was conducted for each participant twice, both before and after a 3-week period of sexual abstinence. Plasma was subsequently analysed for concentrations of adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisol, prolactin, luteinizing hormone and testosterone concentrations. Orgasm increased blood pressure, heart rate, plasma catecholamines and prolactin. These effects were observed both before and after sexual abstinence. In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.

Wonder what the effect is due to teasing and denial?

I want to build more muscle...does this mean denial?

Hmmm... interesting. I wouldn't put too much faith into it, though, considering there were only ten subjects, and no way to guarantee they didn't have orgasms during the twenty days.

If they had used chastity belts, however...

Handcuffed wrote: Hmmm... interesting. I wouldn't put too much faith into it, though, considering there were only ten subjects, and no way to guarantee they didn't have orgasms during the twenty days.

If they had used chastity belts, however...

Yeah, thats what I thought

Maybe people on this forum can get their levels tested