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Two assumptions, two thoughts and two requests.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:01 pm
by lil miss
Greetings and salutations.

I have one reasonable flash tease already under my belt as the user chastity and have been working on an idea for some time now. Coming back to Milovana, well I was never really away just not logged on, with that idea on my mind I began working on structure and composition. All that is going well but I have run across some complications with my implementation of the idea so I am afraid I ask for those that know, can you confirm, deny or help me with these?


Assumption the first: Images cannot be displayed without either shrinking or stretching. All images will be resized no matter what. Images too small will be stretched, images too large will be shrunk. There seems to be a magic ratio to height I have not worked out that defines width; short vertical height images are stretched longer horizontally sometimes to entire 'tease screen' width (ie. not including the controls bar.

Thought the first: This seems entirely sensible apart from the magic and works for the majority of situations but not mine. I now doubt that I will be able to produce what I have in mind as I am initially trying to reproduce a textual conversation as in the chat room or IRC and allow the user to guide the flow of that conversation. The conversation would be in the pictures but the words are being made unreadable or just messy.

Request the first: Can an image be displayed at its original resolution without stretching, shrinking, pulling or otherwise mangling? To prevent misuse of this feature to display enormous images a certain size limit could be implemented, a simple reading of the headers of the image file giving resolution would allow or deny the check and those algorithms to smoothly enlarge or decrease the size of an image would be made redundant hence speeding up preloading possibly? I understand the pic command takes no other parameters and adding one would break everything but adding another pic command would not? Pretty please?


Assumption the second: Flash tease length is limited to the size of a loadable script within the flash application Nyx, I've never coded within flash so my assumption is that it is a virtual machine with a certain amount of allocated memory for application and then the script adds to that.

Thought the second: Has someone or anyone worked out the maximum size of scripts that can be run either through trial and error or being a part of the code base. I fully understand this size will change as things develop with the code base but does anyone have an approximation.

Request the second: As script size decreases with added features and script complexity increases exponentially with increased desire... hey I know the audience as well as the implementers. Will it ever be possible for a script to load another script and hence split up large teases over multiple scripts?

Lots of love and thanks for all you have done guys and a merry Christmas one and all.

May everything you wish for come true unless you dream for release and desire denial.

Regards lil' miss chastity/chastity

Re: Two assumptions, two thoughts and two requests.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:19 pm
by seraph0x
Ok, so let me start at the top.
lil miss wrote:I understand the pic command takes no other parameters and adding one would break everything but adding another pic command would not? Pretty please?
Sorry, the source code of Nyx was lost when I moved from the UK to Switzerland. All I have is an older backup so before I could add any new features I'd have to spend a weekend to get it back to where it was before the data loss. I just don't have the time to do that at the moment.

Maybe I'd be able to suggest a workaround if you explained what you are trying to do? Do you need to upload a very large image - if so, why? The reason images are scaled down is because bandwidth is very expensive. If we can make all images five kilobytes smaller, we save a tenth of our hosting bill at the end of the month.
lil miss wrote:Assumption the second: Flash tease length is limited to the size of a loadable script within the flash application Nyx, I've never coded within flash so my assumption is that it is a virtual machine with a certain amount of allocated memory for application and then the script adds to that.

Thought the second: Has someone or anyone worked out the maximum size of scripts that can be run either through trial and error or being a part of the code base. I fully understand this size will change as things develop with the code base but does anyone have an approximation.
The maximum size depends on your computer. It can be anywhere from about 150 pages to several thousand. It would be fairly easy to lift the size limitation to allow several million pages, in fact I already wrote the code for that, but as I said above the Nyx codebase is out of date and if I uploaded this version a whole bunch of other features would disappear.
lil miss wrote:Request the second: As script size decreases with added features and script complexity increases exponentially with increased desire... hey I know the audience as well as the implementers. Will it ever be possible for a script to load another script and hence split up large teases over multiple scripts?
That will be possible at some point in the future, yes.
lil miss wrote:Lots of love and thanks for all you have done guys and a merry Christmas one and all.

May everything you wish for come true unless you dream for release and desire denial.

Regards lil' miss chastity/chastity
Thanks and a Merry Christmas to you too!

Cheers,

Seraph0x :-)

Re: Two assumptions, two thoughts and two requests.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:47 pm
by lil miss
seraph0x wrote: Maybe I'd be able to suggest a workaround if you explained what you are trying to do? Do you need to upload a very large image - if so, why?
Thank you for the prompt answer, I am very grateful. Actually all I want to do is upload a lot of small images but have them displayed at their original size. I want to reproduce a fictional conversation on the Milovana chat system using sharply cut up screenshots but small images are distorted to the point of ugly. I do not want words all stretched out of shape. Simply being able to show an image at its original resolution would solve all my problems. Do you have a work around?

I have considered producing my own high resolution mock ups but honestly that is too much work when I would rather be working on the script.

Just as an example... this is somewhere I have been testing displaying the images in question...

http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showflash.php?id=7148

Note: Images cycle through a random selection and I was playing with various things, just press the continue button on the right see if you can get a legible image of the chat.

Regards,
lil' miss chastity/chastity

I have some issues with that though, I never got naughtyboys permission to repost them but hey, I need a solution and well... you will see.

Re: Two assumptions, two thoughts and two requests.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:14 pm
by green
You could always generate a non-flash tease :).

//EDIT: I found a way. Editing in a moment.


Ok here we go:
start#page(
'TextBelowImage',
horiz(
text('<img align="abstop" src="http://www.google.de/intl/de_de/images/logo.gif">'),
text('left Image 1 notscaled right Image 2'),
text('<img align="abstop" src="http://www.google.de/intl/de_de/images/logo.gif">')
),
go(range(1,5,'page'))
);
The trick is to use <img> tags. So you will need to upload your images somewhere, or Link to the milovana Image server.

Merry Chirstmas

-green-

Re: Two assumptions, two thoughts and two requests.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:19 pm
by lil miss
green wrote: The trick is to use <img> tags. So you will need to upload your images somewhere, or Link to the milovana Image server.

Merry Chirstmas

-green-
Dear green,

Thank you so very much, really appreciate you taking the time to work that out, you made my day. Hell I'll find an image server and save Milovana some bandwidth at the same time. Of course if that's not a problem I can beg and plead some further knowledge and ask for the Image paths but honestly I'm so happy now I really don't care!

Simply gorgeous, fabulous and lovely.

Greatest regards and many thanks,
lil' miss chastity/chastity

Re: Two assumptions, two thoughts and two requests.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:52 pm
by demosthenes
I must say this tease sounds very interesting. I'm looking forward to reading / trying it!

Re: Two assumptions, two thoughts and two requests.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:54 am
by Evals
Random comment: Loved your last tease and looking forward to whatever you're going to bring us. :-)

Re: Two assumptions, two thoughts and two requests.

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:23 am
by seraph0x
green wrote:The trick is to use <img> tags. So you will need to upload your images somewhere, or Link to the milovana Image server.
Holy shit. You're fucking brilliant. :smile:

As for the second request: I've started working on bringing Nyx into the new decade. It'll take a little while, but it's officially coming. :-)

When the new Nyx version comes out, you'll be able to create much, much larger teases. Splitting complex teases into smaller units is planned as a feature for Mia. Mia is the upcoming successor for the FlashTease system and is currently in prototype stage.