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Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:48 pm
by bhk100
Hey everyone,

Wanted to share my experience with the Lovense Gush, Funscripts, and Edging that has resulted in a massive upgrade to my overall sex life. Some quick notes before starting, I'm not affiliated with Lovense or any of that nonsense. :) Also this is written for men, but I don't see why any of this couldn't be applied to the ladies.

I'm not even sure how to start, but I've discovered a new sexual routine that has blown all of my expectations out of the water... turned my previously goal-oriented approach on it's head, unlocked some crazy new abilities like becoming multi-orgasmic, and is something I can sustainably enjoy 7 days a week, 4 weeks a month... etc. You read that correctly: extreme sexual bliss for at least 1 hour, every day without detracting from my "real" sex life or otherwise interfere with work life, personal life, etc. These are bold statements that I would have looked at pretty skeptically 6 months ago, but here we are.

The core of it combines three different things:

1. A vibrator for your penis (Lovense Gush is my current go-to)
2. Funscripts to drive the same
3. Edging control, controlled Ruins and Orgasm Denial

Each of these are awesome by themselves. Together, it's nuts.

1: The Vibrator. If you're a dude and you've never used a vibrator, I'll understand. It's only been pretty recently that legitimately good vibrators designed for men have existed. If you take nothing else from this post, I'd encourage you to try it a few times. It just hits differently... whereas stroking has a very up-down centric feel to it, the vibrator is more of a "high-low" oscillation between rumbly and buzzy, both sensations feel amazing and put together it creates it's own type of "stroke". But unlike normal jerking where a lot of the sensation is on the "outside" of your cock, the vibrator is stimulating the whole banana at once, almost like the stimulation is coming from the inside out. I think that's probably similar to E-STIM, although I haven't tried that myself so can't really compare. While being quite different from stroking, it can still bring you to orgasm, although I think the orgasm hits a little different. Whereas stroking you get a sharp peak of orgasmic eruption, a vibrator orgasm is a little more paced out. You still get the same feeling but instead of being a peak it's like a mountain range and lasts a little longer. Sorry--this is probably a poor description but it's tough to put into words.

2: Funscripts. I'd known about these for a while but really underestimated how amazing they are. Regardless of your toy being a vibrator or stroker or whatever else, there's something pretty intense about feeling your porn. Whether it's an "action based" funscript where the signal is synced with the performers on screen, or it's "beat based" like a cock hero, or even just a "free style" funscript that is paired with a JOI video, etc, it's incredible to sit back with your hands behind your head and get pleasured by your favorite performers. I've thought about what makes a porn video good for a long time and I've decided that immersion is really one of the biggest factors. So roleplay videos, dirty talk, instructions / encouragement, VR videos... things that "bring me in" to the video turn my screws the most. Funscripts REALLY do that, because you're feeling what's happening, you sort of ARE part of the action. Huge mindfuck and super, super enjoyable.

3: Edging, Ruins and Denied Orgasms. I lumped these together because they're all aspects of the same thing.

3.1 Edging: Most of us here know how great edging is. Stroke yourself to the brink of orgasm, stop, throb & twitch in a moment of ecstasy, take a short breather and then go again. Needless to say, this kicks ass. Instead of being stuck in masturbation 1.0 where you build to a climax and then it's game over, with edging you can bring yourself up to 95% and experience little micro-O's over, and over, and over again. In a typical session I'll hit something like 70 edges, and with maybe 2-3 micro-twitches and delicious thobs per edge, I'm hitting probably close to 200 "micro orgasms" a day. To be clear, this is not something new--this is edging. But I wanted write that out just to make the advantage crystal clear.

3.2 Ruins: There is a next level up though, which I learned about a few years ago... ruins. When I first heard about this I couldn't understand why anyone would ever want to do this. Ruin an orgasm? The name is misleading though. A true ruined orgasm does not trigger the refractory period in men like a full orgasm does (meaning that "done" feeling where you feel super relaxed, you're no longer horny, and you have to wait anywhere from some hours to some days to go again with enthusiasm). It actually takes a little practice and failed attempts to do ruins correctly. If you correctly ruin you stay hard, stay horny, and you can continue your edging or go for more ruins. I think the most I've ever done in one sitting was 5 (I suspect you can't do them forever, but TBD). If you want to learn how to ruin: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php? ... b43608775f

3.3 Orgasm Denial: Finally, orgasm denial. I gradually transitioned to this "goal". Again, I'd known about this forever but never understood why someone would want to do this. What is it: any time you have a session and you really, really want to cum at the end, but you don't. You go hands off, calm down, pull up your pants and go about your day. What I learned about this is that it feels magical, the hornier you are, the better. All that pent up, unreleased sexual energy? It feeds into and fuels your day. Girls on the street look hotter. Everything feels sensitive and better. You have tons of energy to put into whatever work or etc. you have to do. Again this isn't something new--you're just horny. Orgasms feel great, but you lose that electric energy (which is OK sometimes too! But just saying). And... as you go through your week with no release, it feeds back into 3.1 and 3.2. Your energy builds on itself and edges come faster, harder... those sessions get better and better etc.

Now... you put all of these things together (1 + 2 + (3.1, 3.2, 3.3)... and you get get some seriously cool benefits:
  • First and foremost, you can have intense orgasmic pleasure every single day. Enough said :) But, depending on how much time you have and what your life is like, could easily be multiple times / day. My record so far is about 425 edges in a 24 hour period. There's something... really nice about knowing that regardless of how your day goes, with the ups and downs life naturally throws your way, you can depend on reliable pleasure whenever you want or need it.
  • Works WITH your actual sex life, NOT AGAINST it. I'm in a long term relationship and usually have sex 1-2 / week. In my 1.0 days it was always a balancing act for me with some risk built in. I enjoy my solo sex, but I prioritize coupled sex. Coupled sex is naturally a bit more random and spontaneous for us, so there would be times where I had chosen to go for an orgasm with solo sex, and then real sex comes up the same day or next, and I wouldn't be able to perform at the level I wanted to. With this new setup I'm edging with the goal of NOT cumming, just getting as many edges or ruins as possible. This has the two-fold benefit that I'm always "ready" for her when she's ready to go, AND, when we are together I'm at a point where I'm so excited that it's intense, to say the least.
  • Multiple orgasms. Here's somethign I DID NOT see coming... but as a result of either being built up for days, learning to disassociate orgasms from being "done" via ruins, or just training my brain to experience pleasure over and over again instead of going through the buildup-then-release pattern... I have become multi-orgasmic. I'm not talking about ruins here, I am talking about full orgasms. This started happening after about 3 or so months of this practice. The first time with a solo session... I had edged myself for about a week and there had been no sex, so I decide it was time to let one loose, old-school style with my hand + lube. First climax was insane, mind-numbing bliss like you'd expect. But after I came, I slowed down but kept stroking. Something was still feeling good. And about a minute later I brought myself up to a second full orgasm! Not as "big" as the first, but almost more intense in an odd way. The first one was a peak, whereas the second was a plateau. About a week later, it happened again, this time during sex! Can't tell you how amazing this was... similar sensations but with my lady. She loved it too. Then another time I actually got 3 orgasms in one session, this one was again solo sex... each orgasm was slightly "smaller" than the last but paradoxically more intense. When the third one hit I actually vocally cried out, something I had zero control over and never do. Toe-curling, brain melting insanity.
So that's it... it's been a bit of a journey to get here with a lot of trial and error. Never expected these results and wouldn't have believed they were even possible before. Maybe I'm a unique snowflake, but I doubt it. edit: this is without alcohol / drugs of any kind.

Anyone else go down a similar path?

I'm happy to chat more about my setup, tips and tricks, best practices, etc... this is definitely not something that's out of the box. It requires experimentation, practice and learning the small / subtle things to make this work. Figured I'd throw this post out first and see if anyone has interest.

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:47 pm
by LNS
Thanks for your post. Would love to hear more about set-ups and specific equipment.

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:37 pm
by barebone123
bhk100 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:48 pm Hey everyone,

Wanted to share my experience with the Lovense Gush, Funscripts, and Edging that has resulted in a massive upgrade to my overall sex life. Some quick notes before starting, I'm not affiliated with Lovense or any of that nonsense. :) Also this is written for men, but I don't see why any of this couldn't be applied to the ladies.

I'm not even sure how to start, but I've discovered a new sexual routine that has blown all of my expectations out of the water... turned my previously goal-oriented approach on it's head, unlocked some crazy new abilities like becoming multi-orgasmic, and is something I can sustainably enjoy 7 days a week, 4 weeks a month... etc. You read that correctly: extreme sexual bliss for at least 1 hour, every day without detracting from my "real" sex life or otherwise interfere with work life, personal life, etc. These are bold statements that I would have looked at pretty skeptically 6 months ago, but here we are.

The core of it combines three different things:

1. A vibrator for your penis (Lovense Gush is my current go-to)
2. Funscripts to drive the same
3. Edging control, controlled Ruins and Orgasm Denial

Each of these are awesome by themselves. Together, it's nuts.

1: The Vibrator. If you're a dude and you've never used a vibrator, I'll understand. It's only been pretty recently that legitimately good vibrators designed for men have existed. If you take nothing else from this post, I'd encourage you to try it a few times. It just hits differently... whereas stroking has a very up-down centric feel to it, the vibrator is more of a "high-low" oscillation between rumbly and buzzy, both sensations feel amazing and put together it creates it's own type of "stroke". But unlike normal jerking where a lot of the sensation is on the "outside" of your cock, the vibrator is stimulating the whole banana at once, almost like the stimulation is coming from the inside out. I think that's probably similar to E-STIM, although I haven't tried that myself so can't really compare. While being quite different from stroking, it can still bring you to orgasm, although I think the orgasm hits a little different. Whereas stroking you get a sharp peak of orgasmic eruption, a vibrator orgasm is a little more paced out. You still get the same feeling but instead of being a peak it's like a mountain range and lasts a little longer. Sorry--this is probably a poor description but it's tough to put into words.

2: Funscripts. I'd known about these for a while but really underestimated how amazing they are. Regardless of your toy being a vibrator or stroker or whatever else, there's something pretty intense about feeling your porn. Whether it's an "action based" funscript where the signal is synced with the performers on screen, or it's "beat based" like a cock hero, or even just a "free style" funscript that is paired with a JOI video, etc, it's incredible to sit back with your hands behind your head and get pleasured by your favorite performers. I've thought about what makes a porn video good for a long time and I've decided that immersion is really one of the biggest factors. So roleplay videos, dirty talk, instructions / encouragement, VR videos... things that "bring me in" to the video turn my screws the most. Funscripts REALLY do that, because you're feeling what's happening, you sort of ARE part of the action. Huge mindfuck and super, super enjoyable.

3: Edging, Ruins and Denied Orgasms. I lumped these together because they're all aspects of the same thing.

3.1 Edging: Most of us here know how great edging is. Stroke yourself to the brink of orgasm, stop, throb & twitch in a moment of ecstasy, take a short breather and then go again. Needless to say, this kicks ass. Instead of being stuck in masturbation 1.0 where you build to a climax and then it's game over, with edging you can bring yourself up to 95% and experience little micro-O's over, and over, and over again. In a typical session I'll hit something like 70 edges, and with maybe 2-3 micro-twitches and delicious thobs per edge, I'm hitting probably close to 200 "micro orgasms" a day. To be clear, this is not something new--this is edging. But I wanted write that out just to make the advantage crystal clear.

3.2 Ruins: There is a next level up though, which I learned about a few years ago... ruins. When I first heard about this I couldn't understand why anyone would ever want to do this. Ruin an orgasm? The name is misleading though. A true ruined orgasm does not trigger the refractory period in men like a full orgasm does (meaning that "done" feeling where you feel super relaxed, you're no longer horny, and you have to wait anywhere from some hours to some days to go again with enthusiasm). It actually takes a little practice and failed attempts to do ruins correctly. If you correctly ruin you stay hard, stay horny, and you can continue your edging or go for more ruins. I think the most I've ever done in one sitting was 5 (I suspect you can't do them forever, but TBD). If you want to learn how to ruin: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php? ... b43608775f

3.3 Orgasm Denial: Finally, orgasm denial. I gradually transitioned to this "goal". Again, I'd known about this forever but never understood why someone would want to do this. What is it: any time you have a session and you really, really want to cum at the end, but you don't. You go hands off, calm down, pull up your pants and go about your day. What I learned about this is that it feels magical, the hornier you are, the better. All that pent up, unreleased sexual energy? It feeds into and fuels your day. Girls on the street look hotter. Everything feels sensitive and better. You have tons of energy to put into whatever work or etc. you have to do. Again this isn't something new--you're just horny. Orgasms feel great, but you lose that electric energy (which is OK sometimes too! But just saying). And... as you go through your week with no release, it feeds back into 3.1 and 3.2. Your energy builds on itself and edges come faster, harder... those sessions get better and better etc.

Now... you put all of these things together (1 + 2 + (3.1, 3.2, 3.3)... and you get get some seriously cool benefits:
  • First and foremost, you can have intense orgasmic pleasure every single day. Enough said :) But, depending on how much time you have and what your life is like, could easily be multiple times / day. My record so far is about 425 edges in a 24 hour period. There's something... really nice about knowing that regardless of how your day goes, with the ups and downs life naturally throws your way, you can depend on reliable pleasure whenever you want or need it.
  • Works WITH your actual sex life, NOT AGAINST it. I'm in a long term relationship and usually have sex 1-2 / week. In my 1.0 days it was always a balancing act for me with some risk built in. I enjoy my solo sex, but I prioritize coupled sex. Coupled sex is naturally a bit more random and spontaneous for us, so there would be times where I had chosen to go for an orgasm with solo sex, and then real sex comes up the same day or next, and I wouldn't be able to perform at the level I wanted to. With this new setup I'm edging with the goal of NOT cumming, just getting as many edges or ruins as possible. This has the two-fold benefit that I'm always "ready" for her when she's ready to go, AND, when we are together I'm at a point where I'm so excited that it's intense, to say the least.
  • Multiple orgasms. Here's somethign I DID NOT see coming... but as a result of either being built up for days, learning to disassociate orgasms from being "done" via ruins, or just training my brain to experience pleasure over and over again instead of going through the buildup-then-release pattern... I have become multi-orgasmic. I'm not talking about ruins here, I am talking about full orgasms. This started happening after about 3 or so months of this practice. The first time with a solo session... I had edged myself for about a week and there had been no sex, so I decide it was time to let one loose, old-school style with my hand + lube. First climax was insane, mind-numbing bliss like you'd expect. But after I came, I slowed down but kept stroking. Something was still feeling good. And about a minute later I brought myself up to a second full orgasm! Not as "big" as the first, but almost more intense in an odd way. The first one was a peak, whereas the second was a plateau. About a week later, it happened again, this time during sex! Can't tell you how amazing this was... similar sensations but with my lady. She loved it too. Then another time I actually got 3 orgasms in one session, this one was again solo sex... each orgasm was slightly "smaller" than the last but paradoxically more intense. When the third one hit I actually vocally cried out, something I had zero control over and never do. Toe-curling, brain melting insanity.
So that's it... it's been a bit of a journey to get here with a lot of trial and error. Never expected these results and wouldn't have believed they were even possible before. Maybe I'm a unique snowflake, but I doubt it. edit: this is without alcohol / drugs of any kind.

Anyone else go down a similar path?

I'm happy to chat more about my setup, tips and tricks, best practices, etc... this is definitely not something that's out of the box. It requires experimentation, practice and learning the small / subtle things to make this work. Figured I'd throw this post out first and see if anyone has interest.
100%, all of this is spot on fun!

Stack this with XToys "Edge-o-Matic" script the Gush and a kegel motion sensor like the Boost (https://www.kgoal.com/products/kgoal-bo ... er-for-men)

The Boost will sense when you clench towards orgasm (Kegel tightening) and the script will auto-stop the Gush for a period of time, then start and ramp up again.

Then you can really kick back and enjoy uninterrupted edging. Note: it's not perfect, but you can dial it in for a really good session.

Get yourself a keyholder and add male chastity to this mix and your play sessions (and eventual orgasms) are mindblowing.

I agree, this stuff redefines what sexual intensity can be and carrying that sexual energy into your life.

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:38 am
by bhk100
LNS wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:47 pm Thanks for your post. Would love to hear more about set-ups and specific equipment.
100%. Here's what you'll need (for my setup, and I'm running windows 10)

Hardware:
1. Lovense Gush (not the Gush 2, the original!) about $100 usually
2. a USB-BlueTooth dongle. Amazon has these for $10 (don't use the dongle that Lovense makes, it's trash)

Software:
1. IntifaceCentral (https://github.com/intiface/intiface-central) This is the software that lets your PC talk to your Gush via Bluetooth
2. MultiFunPlayer (https://github.com/Yoooi0/MultiFunPlayer) This is the software that lets your Videos+Funscripts talk to your (now connected) Gush. It orchestrates the funscript with the video so you can play them together, and it's also where you dial in all your settings (vibe intensity, and about 20 other settings)
3. MPV (https://mpv.io/installation/) MFP needs a video player to play the video through

Funscripts:
1. There are quite a few excellent funscripts on this very site!
2. EroScript is my go-to (https://discuss.eroscripts.com/) you need to make an account to download stuff.

I want to emphasize again that there is a long learning curve to really dial this in. The tech setup isn't terrible to get right, but understanding what feels best for you can be. There are 100 little variables to dial in and can make a session feel "ok" or "SWEET MOTHER OF GOD THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF LIFE!!". So I'd only embark on this if you are prepared to be patient with yourself and see it through. All I can say is it's incredibly awesome if you do!

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:46 am
by bhk100
barebone123 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:37 pm Stack this with XToys "Edge-o-Matic" script the Gush and a kegel motion sensor like the Boost (https://www.kgoal.com/products/kgoal-bo ... er-for-men)

The Boost will sense when you clench towards orgasm (Kegel tightening) and the script will auto-stop the Gush for a period of time, then start and ramp up again.

Then you can really kick back and enjoy uninterrupted edging. Note: it's not perfect, but you can dial it in for a really good session.
I've heard of this and I'm super curious about it. Someone had genius insight figuring this setup out...actually this is the first time I've heard of this device specifically, I knew there was one where you actually insert an inflatable rubber balloon to measure the kegals, this looks a lot easier to use. Anyways, do you know if it already works with tools like MultiFunPlayer, etc? I'm not a super tech guy but I can figure most stuff out if it's possible. Right now I have to have my hand on the mouse at all times to pause the action, to stop from blowing, so this would be even better!

Hopefully it's failure rate isn't too high, or my ruins will actually live up to their name, lol.
barebone123 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:37 pm Get yourself a keyholder and add male chastity to this mix and your play sessions (and eventual orgasms) are mindblowing.
Can you elaborate on this? This is another one of those... "I know of this, but I don't get it yet" things.
barebone123 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:37 pm I agree, this stuff redefines what sexual intensity can be and carrying that sexual energy into your life.
We're cut from the same cloth, friend. ;) I thought I had "figured out" self pleasure a long, long time ago. Like... Yup, this is it any anything else is just a flavor of the same. That was dead wrong.

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:21 pm
by amythx
bhk100 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:38 am
100%. Here's what you'll need (for my setup, and I'm running windows 10)

Hardware:
1. Lovense Gush (not the Gush 2, the original!) about $100 usually
2. a USB-BlueTooth dongle. Amazon has these for $10 (don't use the dongle that Lovense makes, it's trash)
Can you elaborate on why you recommend the original and not the Gush 2?

/Amy

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:58 pm
by bhk100
amythx wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:21 pm Can you elaborate on why you recommend the original and not the Gush 2?

/Amy
They’re really quite different toys, whereas the original Gush is a pure vibrator, the Gush 2 is a vibrator and also has a “rumble pad” sort of feature. I’m sure it can be enjoyable, but personally I can’t edge with it as I’m missing the nice high buzzy vibes that a true vibrator provides

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm
by barebone123
bhk100 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:46 am
barebone123 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:37 pm Stack this with XToys "Edge-o-Matic" script the Gush and a kegel motion sensor like the Boost (https://www.kgoal.com/products/kgoal-bo ... er-for-men)

The Boost will sense when you clench towards orgasm (Kegel tightening) and the script will auto-stop the Gush for a period of time, then start and ramp up again.

Then you can really kick back and enjoy uninterrupted edging. Note: it's not perfect, but you can dial it in for a really good session.
I've heard of this and I'm super curious about it. Someone had genius insight figuring this setup out...actually this is the first time I've heard of this device specifically, I knew there was one where you actually insert an inflatable rubber balloon to measure the kegals, this looks a lot easier to use. Anyways, do you know if it already works with tools like MultiFunPlayer, etc? I'm not a super tech guy but I can figure most stuff out if it's possible. Right now I have to have my hand on the mouse at all times to pause the action, to stop from blowing, so this would be even better!

Hopefully it's failure rate isn't too high, or my ruins will actually live up to their name, lol.
barebone123 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:37 pm Get yourself a keyholder and add male chastity to this mix and your play sessions (and eventual orgasms) are mindblowing.
Can you elaborate on this? This is another one of those... "I know of this, but I don't get it yet" things.
barebone123 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:37 pm I agree, this stuff redefines what sexual intensity can be and carrying that sexual energy into your life.
We're cut from the same cloth, friend. ;) I thought I had "figured out" self pleasure a long, long time ago. Like... Yup, this is it any anything else is just a flavor of the same. That was dead wrong.
We are! I saw your post and thought "what's this...hello brother". When you mix sexuality with kink, energetic and tantric practices, semen retention, even better with a partner, the effects are out of this world. Like, go all in, not just porn-influenced kinky scenes, really explore yourself and what's possible.

So, male chastity is where you basically commit to not having an orgasm, playing with yourself, etc. Can be done with or without a chastity device, but a device is much more impactful. It's a head game to not be able to get hard or play with your junk. Even more so if someone else (or an app) has control over when you can unlock yourself. The feeling of being locked and in a cage, with your cock constrained and unable to get hard is itself a huge turn-on. The head game of someone else being in control, it's super fun. My wife and I play around with it from time to time. My longest has been a little over 3 months locked, to your point about all this, it was a life changing experience to not be in control and not have an orgasm for that long. (that said, chastity is also not foolproof, it takes mental commitment not to cheat". Chastity is a rabbit hole of it's own to go down if you're interested.

Being locked for an indeterminate time is a head game and builds up huge amounts of sexual energy.

Now add the edging machine above to it. When you are allowed out (and not necessarily allowed to have an orgasm or touch yourself) and set up with the edging devices (recipe above) you're edged over and over, maybe resulting in an orgasm, or a ruin, or nothing and just getting locked up again. Rinse and repeat, along with caged teasing and edging sessions now and then, for weeks on end and you become a slobbering mental mess (of fun, sexual energy, and transcendent exalted masculine ferocity. Learn more about it, I'm just touching on the surface to illustrate how the combo works, but it's well worth exploring. And happy to answer any other questions.

Regarding the kegel sensor, yes, there are buttplug versions as well. All work to some extent. It's certainly not full-proof and takes some tinkering to dial it in, but when I tried it, it was close enough that it was worth trying. And fulfilled that fantasy of being out of control and a device stopping stimulation right on the edge of orgasm.

I've only tried with xtoys, and it works great. You connect the Gush, the kegel sensor, set up a session with pattern, and go. You need to watch the sensitivity as how you sit, how tense you already are, etc, affect the trigger point of the sensor (that shuts off the Gush).

Not having to be in control of the switch (mouse) is a huge difference. You need to really relax and not clench, as much as you want to, until your body basically does it involuntarily. Then the Gush stops, waits (15-30 seconds) and then starts and ramps back up again to another edge. Then right as you get that feeling that you can't take it any more, clench and it stops and the cycle starts all over.

It can result in a ruin randomly. After a bunch of edges, it can just happen. Sometimes it feels more like a full orgasm, or somewhere in between. You never know the timing and where your body is in the orgasm cycle. To your point, the Gush is great, it a very different feeling that a stroker. Goes through your whole cock ,and can be dialed down to almost nothing, and the tease is frustratingly delicious. Perfect toy for this.

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:16 pm
by bhk100
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm We are! I saw your post and thought "what's this...hello brother". When you mix sexuality with kink, energetic and tantric practices, semen retention, even better with a partner, the effects are out of this world. Like, go all in, not just porn-influenced kinky scenes, really explore yourself and what's possible.
Yup I figured correctly that this was the right forum to post this in. The mental aspect of sexuality is so huge. It’s why a shitty 360p video can be hotter than a 4K 60fps video… just because of the look in the eye of the girl performing. :-) And when you combine it with the peak of physical sensation (like edging, denial) it’s just out of this world.
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm So, male chastity is where you basically commit to not having an orgasm, playing with yourself, etc. Can be done with or without a chastity device, but a device is much more impactful. It's a head game to not be able to get hard or play with your junk. Even more so if someone else (or an app) has control over when you can unlock yourself. The feeling of being locked and in a cage, with your cock constrained and unable to get hard is itself a huge turn-on. The head game of someone else being in control, it's super fun. My wife and I play around with it from time to time. My longest has been a little over 3 months locked, to your point about all this, it was a life changing experience to not be in control and not have an orgasm for that long. (that said, chastity is also not foolproof, it takes mental commitment not to cheat". Chastity is a rabbit hole of it's own to go down if you're interested.

Being locked for an indeterminate time is a head game and builds up huge amounts of sexual energy.

Now add the edging machine above to it. When you are allowed out (and not necessarily allowed to have an orgasm or touch yourself) and set up with the edging devices (recipe above) you're edged over and over, maybe resulting in an orgasm, or a ruin, or nothing and just getting locked up again. Rinse and repeat, along with caged teasing and edging sessions now and then, for weeks on end and you become a slobbering mental mess (of fun, sexual energy, and transcendent exalted masculine ferocity. Learn more about it, I'm just touching on the surface to illustrate how the combo works, but it's well worth exploring. And happy to answer any other questions.
It actually does sound like a lot of fun :) There is something super hot about surrender, I think in my case it’s also the contrast that has with my day to day where I generally have to call the shots on stuff. It plays into the femdom / submissive male stuff and it’s just… great. I may have to get a cage just to play with this idea a bit, though I think I’ll really have to mentally dedicate myself if I’m to get the full benefit. Right now I’m very edge focused, on the daily!
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm Regarding the kegel sensor, yes, there are buttplug versions as well. All work to some extent. It's certainly not full-proof and takes some tinkering to dial it in, but when I tried it, it was close enough that it was worth trying. And fulfilled that fantasy of being out of control and a device stopping stimulation right on the edge of orgasm.
Yeah, that does sound really lovely! When you say not fool proof, do you mean that the device screws up sometimes on it’s own without any cause, or is it more like… user error , not sitting on it right or maybe miss calibrating the baseline or something? Full disclosure, I have also screwed up edges myself before and had involuntary ruins, usually me missing the pause button or very foolishly thinking I could take my hand off the mouse for a sip of coffee and suddenly the pornstar goes hard deepthroat at that very second, lol. Other times, I’ve had the Bluetooth connection drop between my PC and the Gush and it wouldn’t stop (actually hasn’t happened since I moved my BT dongle to the front of my PC instead of the back). In a few of these cases it went beyond a ruin into a full orgasm. So the butt sensor screwing up might not be any additional orgasm risk, and hey… maybe that randomness adds to the mental game :lol:

barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm I've only tried with xtoys, and it works great. You connect the Gush, the kegel sensor, set up a session with pattern, and go. You need to watch the sensitivity as how you sit, how tense you already are, etc, affect the trigger point of the sensor (that shuts off the Gush).
No idea what xtoys is (yet) but will investigate. If nothing else I can set a pattern and watch non-funscript porn I suppose!
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm Not having to be in control of the switch (mouse) is a huge difference. You need to really relax and not clench, as much as you want to, until your body basically does it involuntarily. Then the Gush stops, waits (15-30 seconds) and then starts and ramps back up again to another edge. Then right as you get that feeling that you can't take it any more, clench and it stops and the cycle starts all over.

It can result in a ruin randomly. After a bunch of edges, it can just happen. Sometimes it feels more like a full orgasm, or somewhere in between. You never know the timing and where your body is in the orgasm cycle. To your point, the Gush is great, it a very different feeling that a stroker. Goes through your whole cock ,and can be dialed down to almost nothing, and the tease is frustratingly delicious. Perfect toy for this.
It might be a way to further train my body to with the sensor. If I know that clenching will stop the buzz, it will become unconscious after enough time and maybe I can reach another level with it. Unrelated, but I was reading about poppers the other day and one of the things it does is relax your pelvic floor, which can lead to stronger orgasms (or edges, I guess). If I can get to that same level of relaxation naturally it might make a big difference, also when having real sex.

Also I hear you on the random ruins. After about 100 edges, no matter how much I’m tuned into the mind-body connection, it can just happen out of nowhere. … … … which again is super fucking hot to think about, one moment you’re just doing your thing chasing the next edge or coming down off the ledge of the last one, next second there’s cum shooting out of your cock like crazy… which is when I just let it ride out… and then start again :love: yeah I’m a fan.

It’s like… the male body clearly wasn’t built for what we’re doing, and the fact that it’s possible is like typing “idkfa” in real life (bonus points for anyone who catches the reference)

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:34 pm
by barebone123
bhk100 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:16 pm
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm We are! I saw your post and thought "what's this...hello brother". When you mix sexuality with kink, energetic and tantric practices, semen retention, even better with a partner, the effects are out of this world. Like, go all in, not just porn-influenced kinky scenes, really explore yourself and what's possible.
Yup I figured correctly that this was the right forum to post this in. The mental aspect of sexuality is so huge. It’s why a shitty 360p video can be hotter than a 4K 60fps video… just because of the look in the eye of the girl performing. :-) And when you combine it with the peak of physical sensation (like edging, denial) it’s just out of this world.
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm So, male chastity is where you basically commit to not having an orgasm, playing with yourself, etc. Can be done with or without a chastity device, but a device is much more impactful. It's a head game to not be able to get hard or play with your junk. Even more so if someone else (or an app) has control over when you can unlock yourself. The feeling of being locked and in a cage, with your cock constrained and unable to get hard is itself a huge turn-on. The head game of someone else being in control, it's super fun. My wife and I play around with it from time to time. My longest has been a little over 3 months locked, to your point about all this, it was a life changing experience to not be in control and not have an orgasm for that long. (that said, chastity is also not foolproof, it takes mental commitment not to cheat". Chastity is a rabbit hole of it's own to go down if you're interested.

Being locked for an indeterminate time is a head game and builds up huge amounts of sexual energy.

Now add the edging machine above to it. When you are allowed out (and not necessarily allowed to have an orgasm or touch yourself) and set up with the edging devices (recipe above) you're edged over and over, maybe resulting in an orgasm, or a ruin, or nothing and just getting locked up again. Rinse and repeat, along with caged teasing and edging sessions now and then, for weeks on end and you become a slobbering mental mess (of fun, sexual energy, and transcendent exalted masculine ferocity. Learn more about it, I'm just touching on the surface to illustrate how the combo works, but it's well worth exploring. And happy to answer any other questions.
It actually does sound like a lot of fun :) There is something super hot about surrender, I think in my case it’s also the contrast that has with my day to day where I generally have to call the shots on stuff. It plays into the femdom / submissive male stuff and it’s just… great. I may have to get a cage just to play with this idea a bit, though I think I’ll really have to mentally dedicate myself if I’m to get the full benefit. Right now I’m very edge focused, on the daily!
Likewise, I need to be able to turn off my brain, not have to be in charge, not make decisions, etc. Plus, I think there's something inherently built into men that want to submit to a woman. The masculine craves the polarity with the feminine. And this is a great way to amp that up.
bhk100 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:16 pm
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm Regarding the kegel sensor, yes, there are buttplug versions as well. All work to some extent. It's certainly not full-proof and takes some tinkering to dial it in, but when I tried it, it was close enough that it was worth trying. And fulfilled that fantasy of being out of control and a device stopping stimulation right on the edge of orgasm.
Yeah, that does sound really lovely! When you say not fool proof, do you mean that the device screws up sometimes on it’s own without any cause, or is it more like… user error , not sitting on it right or maybe miss calibrating the baseline or something? Full disclosure, I have also screwed up edges myself before and had involuntary ruins, usually me missing the pause button or very foolishly thinking I could take my hand off the mouse for a sip of coffee and suddenly the pornstar goes hard deepthroat at that very second, lol. Other times, I’ve had the Bluetooth connection drop between my PC and the Gush and it wouldn’t stop (actually hasn’t happened since I moved my BT dongle to the front of my PC instead of the back). In a few of these cases it went beyond a ruin into a full orgasm. So the butt sensor screwing up might not be any additional orgasm risk, and hey… maybe that randomness adds to the mental game :lol:
95% of the time it's me moving too much/not sitting on it right, etc. So I have to sit pretty still. It's somewhat forgiving, but with a sensor involved, it's only so precise. Yeah, have to calibrate and all that to dial it in. The other 5% of the time is app/connectivity related. Bluetooth signal's usually good, the tech is reliable enough.
bhk100 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:16 pm
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm I've only tried with xtoys, and it works great. You connect the Gush, the kegel sensor, set up a session with pattern, and go. You need to watch the sensitivity as how you sit, how tense you already are, etc, affect the trigger point of the sensor (that shuts off the Gush).
No idea what xtoys is (yet) but will investigate. If nothing else I can set a pattern and watch non-funscript porn I suppose!
http://www.xtoys.app
bhk100 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:16 pm
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm Not having to be in control of the switch (mouse) is a huge difference. You need to really relax and not clench, as much as you want to, until your body basically does it involuntarily. Then the Gush stops, waits (15-30 seconds) and then starts and ramps back up again to another edge. Then right as you get that feeling that you can't take it any more, clench and it stops and the cycle starts all over.

It can result in a ruin randomly. After a bunch of edges, it can just happen. Sometimes it feels more like a full orgasm, or somewhere in between. You never know the timing and where your body is in the orgasm cycle. To your point, the Gush is great, it a very different feeling that a stroker. Goes through your whole cock ,and can be dialed down to almost nothing, and the tease is frustratingly delicious. Perfect toy for this.
It might be a way to further train my body to with the sensor. If I know that clenching will stop the buzz, it will become unconscious after enough time and maybe I can reach another level with it. Unrelated, but I was reading about poppers the other day and one of the things it does is relax your pelvic floor, which can lead to stronger orgasms (or edges, I guess). If I can get to that same level of relaxation naturally it might make a big difference, also when having real sex.

Also I hear you on the random ruins. After about 100 edges, no matter how much I’m tuned into the mind-body connection, it can just happen out of nowhere. … … … which again is super fucking hot to think about, one moment you’re just doing your thing chasing the next edge or coming down off the ledge of the last one, next second there’s cum shooting out of your cock like crazy… which is when I just let it ride out… and then start again :love: yeah I’m a fan.

It’s like… the male body clearly wasn’t built for what we’re doing, and the fact that it’s possible is like typing “idkfa” in real life (bonus points for anyone who catches the reference)
The male body wasn't built for this, but I do believe there is a lost art in having control over our sexuality, sexual energy and orgasms. In that regard, we're just tapping into Tantra and The Multi-Orgasmic Man and things other cultures have known for a millennium. Circulating our energy, breathing, kegels and learning how to control orgasm. Western culture has lost a lot of the good stuff. For how many guys does sex mean it has to end with ejaculation? Take that off the table and the game changes entirely.

I do like the randomness of it, too, as you describe, and being out of control. My wife gave me a perfectly timed ruin once (after a long edging session so I was super ready) as I was about to go out of my mind. She didn't realize she had done it, and I was like..."more more more stimulation NOW, please". I needed to cum so badly. She thought I already had cum and has no idea what a well done ruin feels like and stopped and said we were done. It's different then when you have your own ruin and know you're doing it. This was a full on cheated ending to what would have been either coming down from edging or a full orgasm. It was incredibly frustrating and at the time never wanted to feel that again. Now it turns me on thinking about it and I can't wait for the next time. Crazy thing, male horniness. :)

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:02 pm
by BlueM00
bhk100 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:16 pm Yup I figured correctly that this was the right forum to post this in.
No, this forum is "On Video", it is definitely not appropriate for this post.

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:22 am
by bhk100
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:34 pm http://www.xtoys.app
:cool:
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:34 pm I do like the randomness of it, too, as you describe, and being out of control. My wife gave me a perfectly timed ruin once (after a long edging session so I was super ready) as I was about to go out of my mind. She didn't realize she had done it, and I was like..."more more more stimulation NOW, please". I needed to cum so badly. She thought I already had cum and has no idea what a well done ruin feels like and stopped and said we were done. It's different then when you have your own ruin and know you're doing it. This was a full on cheated ending to what would have been either coming down from edging or a full orgasm. It was incredibly frustrating and at the time never wanted to feel that again. Now it turns me on thinking about it and I can't wait for the next time. Crazy thing, male horniness. :)
That sounds absolutely wonderful... and rare! Perfectly ruined orgasms are hard enough to do even with yourself driving it, having someone else do it, even unintentionally, sounds so good. Something my wife and I do once a blue moon is give her an orgasm, and none for me. Sounds vanilla enough, but getting her off drives me wild, so letting the boner slowly die off and going about my day can be maddening. On those days we had sort of an unspoken agreement that she'd get me off later that night. But whenever we do that there is definitely a bit of electricity in the air that she notices as well.

It's almost like, in this paradigm... be it with someone else, or just with yourself... having an orgasm is enemy number one, in a not-so-serious fashion. Cumming is great, but man I love, love, love that intoxicating slow burn of insanity throughout the day, and again, that compounding effect is so nice. By day 4 with no release (and hundreds of edges) I wake up and spend most of my day horny :blush:

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:10 pm
by barebone123
BlueM00 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:02 pm
bhk100 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:16 pm Yup I figured correctly that this was the right forum to post this in.
No, this forum is "On Video", it is definitely not appropriate for this post.
Agreed, this is in the wrong forum. I've reported this to moderators and hopefully we can get it moved. Want to keep it, just find the right home for it.

Thanks!

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:15 pm
by barebone123
bhk100 wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:22 am
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:34 pm http://www.xtoys.app
:cool:
barebone123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:34 pm I do like the randomness of it, too, as you describe, and being out of control. My wife gave me a perfectly timed ruin once (after a long edging session so I was super ready) as I was about to go out of my mind. She didn't realize she had done it, and I was like..."more more more stimulation NOW, please". I needed to cum so badly. She thought I already had cum and has no idea what a well done ruin feels like and stopped and said we were done. It's different then when you have your own ruin and know you're doing it. This was a full on cheated ending to what would have been either coming down from edging or a full orgasm. It was incredibly frustrating and at the time never wanted to feel that again. Now it turns me on thinking about it and I can't wait for the next time. Crazy thing, male horniness. :)
That sounds absolutely wonderful... and rare! Perfectly ruined orgasms are hard enough to do even with yourself driving it, having someone else do it, even unintentionally, sounds so good. Something my wife and I do once a blue moon is give her an orgasm, and none for me. Sounds vanilla enough, but getting her off drives me wild, so letting the boner slowly die off and going about my day can be maddening. On those days we had sort of an unspoken agreement that she'd get me off later that night. But whenever we do that there is definitely a bit of electricity in the air that she notices as well.

It's almost like, in this paradigm... be it with someone else, or just with yourself... having an orgasm is enemy number one, in a not-so-serious fashion. Cumming is great, but man I love, love, love that intoxicating slow burn of insanity throughout the day, and again, that compounding effect is so nice. By day 4 with no release (and hundreds of edges) I wake up and spend most of my day horny :blush:
Being locked (chastity cage) adds to the energy of focusing on her pleasure and orgasm, while I remain locked and can't get off. It is an amazing thing to feel and focus on the energy of her orgasm. And like you say, having to calm back down and get on with my day. It's almost like I get relief through her having an orgasm.

Over time, having an orgasm does become enemy number one. You get to love that energy throughout the day, slow burn of insanity says it well. Horny all day indeed!

Re: Edging Mastery w/ Gush+Funscripts+Denial

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:01 pm
by Bob816
Do you have script+video combos that you particularly recommend? I've used scripts a lot for my Handy, but how well does an "action" based script designed for stroking translate to the vibrating Gush?