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Hey all

Having been on Milovana a couple of months now I have been inspired by the great creators here to try my hand at making a PMV. For now I'm not sure if it will be for my own enjoyment or whether I'll release it. Obviously a lot will depend on the end result and how viable it is to publicly use the content I have in mind. Either way, I should make it clear that it's going to be an extremely slow process (I'm still learning Da Vinci Resolve as, more or less, a total layman to video editing - so we are talking several months most likely) and as my first attempt, it likely won't be anything special. No theme, no beatmeter, no story, more just a mix of my favourite videos and music set up in a way that (hopefully) do both justice. So far I have about half of a 15 second intro sequence laid out and a structure of sorts, listing the music I want to use and the scenes I'll put with them - very early days. In the end, total runtime should end up being about 45 mins long if all goes to plan.

Anyways, to the point at hand. I had a few questions before going any further with it, and would appreciate your feedback:

1) When clips have website or creator watermarks, do you find it preferable to leave them in to maintain the video's original size/quality, or crop/zoom the video to remove them where possible for a cleaner video? Do you feel there would be moral implications to removing them, even when credit is given at the end of the video?

2) Despite videos here being free community creations, are there any moral or legal implications to using content from independent performers (e.g Lana Rain, Purple Bitch, Hidori Rose etc). This links into my earlier comment about "viability of public use" when creating a video.

3) Is it reasonable to post asking for help from other Milovana users/creators in obtaining hard to get source material at higher qualities in order to complete a planned video, or is this against the rules/generally frowned upon?

Sorry this post got a bit lengthy - I appreciate any feedback given!

Many thanks,

Kenz

1) remove them at all costs, copyrightowners use crawlers to search uploads by these days. content using watermarks tends to get deleted quite soon imo

2) i think those independent performers should be happy to see some of their material getting used by us, its an honor and some form of advertisement for them.

3) i don't know, but i tend to say no because i do not want to see this site getting on sketchy grounds by sharing files and stuff.

I stopped giving a shit if my videos got taken down. There will always be some rando who re-uploads them. I am a pirate, and I will die a pirate.

1) I won't crop out the watermarks unless they're obtrusive, but most of the time I won't even include a video with an obtrusive watermark out of principle.

2) They still make more money than we do so who gives a fuck? I am pretty sure these women have been paid as a direct result of my videos.

3) People will reach out to you with help with this if they deem your content worthy. My first video was primarily gifs I took from reddit. I also find that the rounds that I "plan" in advance are formulaic, boring, and generally end up in some folder never to be released.

I don't know where you live but I haven't heard of a cock hero creator being sued or subpoenaed. We are, for the most part, a harmless collection of backwater slime.

Cheers to both of you for the replies!

It's interesting that in regards to watermarks you both have differing opinions, so I guess this is more a matter of preference rather than a hard rule. So far I have been removing them where I can, leaving them when I can't and they are subtle, and not using content at all if they are intrusive (some JAV are particularly bad for text/watermarks, so I've been seeking alternative sources for those or dropping them entirely). I did spend a few hours practicing various methods of object removal using the free version of Da Vinci Resolve 17, but these seem more geared toward removing objects from within the video itself rather than watermarks laid on top of the video. As such, it didn't really work, so I've just been cropping/zooming them out.

fragrantEmulsion wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:20 pm I don't know where you live but I haven't heard of a cock hero creator being sued or subpoenaed. We are, for the most part, a harmless collection of backwater slime.

I'm in the UK, so despite a lot of noise from the government about pornography and big ideas for anti-porn laws, these ideas (thankfully!) rarely see the light of day (the now dropped "porn blocker" law from 2019 is a prime example of this).

From your answers to the third question, I'm thinking perhaps the best idea will be to initially produce and release with the content I have already sourced myself, then add a list of the few videos I wanted to include but couldn't due to the low quality phub versions I have. If I can then get hold of better quality versions at a later time, I can maybe make an extended version to bring the PMV closer to what I initially wanted (namely a compilation of my absolute favourite videos I have collected over the years).

Thanks again for the responses, it's much appreciated!

1) I almost always remove brand marks, because they can ruin a Cock Hero experience when differently branded videos are cut together in sequence, so that the marks are changing and moving position where scenes cut. The marks also compete with Cock Hero graphics for attention. To remove the marks, I use either crop-zoom, or a blur. I have less than zero moral concern about it.

2) Cathedral: https://wryemusings.com/Cathedral%20vs.%20Parlor.html

3) When I joined Milovana we had an Empornium invite thread, which is effectively the same as what you're asking about, and that thread is now deleted for more than a year. I suggest that if you're wanting to request help sourcing material to work with, keep it private.

Start with one song, one video. At first you're going to spend more time learning how than learning what.