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I became an addict to the latest releases from digitalparkinglot. In particular ESTIM with Liya Silver with his recommended wiring.

After a few long edging sessions (no release) noticed no blue balls pain. Is it just me or do you all experience the same compared to regular edging?

Hey jgrants,

Thanks for the nice compliments. I'm glad you are enjoying my work. (I am too )

I find edging with e-stim can be just as intense, if not more, then stroking. I also find that I don't get achy balls from e-stim, but I often do from stroking. I can e-stim several days in a row for several hours per session without cumming for several days and not get achy balls. My cock will be almost numb by the end of a long e-stim session, but by the next morning I'm horny as fuck and sensitive as ever. If I edge by stroking in a early morning session, I'll have achy balls all day. It's a good ache, but achy nonetheless.

-digitalparkinglot

jgrants wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:59 pm I became an addict to the latest releases from digitalparkinglot. In particular ESTIM with Liya Silver with his recommended wiring.

I don't blame you, that's become one of my favourites since it came out too

jgrants wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:59 pm After a few long edging sessions (no release) noticed no blue balls pain. Is it just me or do you all experience the same compared to regular edging?

Yes same, not sure if it's because it's more difficult with electro to get right to that one more stroke and you'll cum stage and stay there. It's still a wild ride and better in some ways, but I don't think I tend to ride the edge in quite the same way.

It seems I was not the only one! What's difficult at least for me is to find enough free time alone to enjoy these long estim sessions.

kinkyhorizons wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:24 am

jgrants wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:59 pm After a few long edging sessions (no release) noticed no blue balls pain. Is it just me or do you all experience the same compared to regular edging?

Yes same, not sure if it's because it's more difficult with electro to get right to that one more stroke and you'll cum stage and stay there. It's still a wild ride and better in some ways, but I don't think I tend to ride the edge in quite the same way.

For edge riding my goto is Session 15 from E-Stim Fantasy Part 2 (thanks again digitalparkinglot!). That signal always keep me on the edge if I set the level properly.

digitalparkinglot wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:18 pm but by the next morning I'm horny as fuck and sensitive as ever.

Can't say anything about the blue balls topic but have absolutely the same as you wrote.
Even after a very intense session over 2-3h with high power and a hard orgasm at the end from estim, the next day I'm mostly even more horny than the day before.
When I do a long stroke edge session instead, the next day my sex drive is mostly a lot lower than the day before.

And yeah edging by stroking is a lot closer to the edge, specially when riding the edge then with estim.
With estim I can't get so close to the edge because I can't control it very good.
When I turn off the electricity when I'm very close, the chance to step uncontrollable over the edge is very high.

lolol2 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:21 pm When I turn off the electricity when I'm very close, the chance to step uncontrollable over the edge is very high.

I agree with lolol2. E-stim Tower has pushed me to the edge and then over so many times I can't count, despite cutting the power and trying my best to hold it.

-dpl

Liya Silver is so awesome and the video is so great produced that I played it without an E-stim device:
Yellow = Edge (peaking, with 5 seconds pause)
Blue = Edge and Ride
Yellow/blue = Edge with ballooning

Worked very well that way

E-stim has rendered stroking pointless for me. I'd rather wait until I can stim or my gf takes care of it. Luckily that is often enough.

I'll bet the "blue balls" soreness is just your hand banging your balls, but that is speculation. I've never felt that I had blue balls even when I used to stroke, but if I do stroke a little, it is hard not to bang up the balls which is another reason I'd rather stim.

And also I second the compliments to digitalparkinglot for his excellent E-STIM video series.

Damn I wish I could get the feelings from e-stim that you guys describe!

I've been trying for a few years now, and I try probably 3 or 4 times a month but after starting every session with high hopes, after 20 minutes or so it starts to get painful so I adjust things and then the feeling gets worse, or then I lose my erection and the nice feelings go away altogether and I end up just getting frustrated and stop. It's so annoying, because initially it does feel good and I can imagine how good it could feel, but ultimately every session ends the same way.

I built my own stereo stim rig from Tronic's design and often wonder is there something I did wrong that causes my box not to feel as good as everyone elses? although it does work ok and although no expert, I assume these boxes either work or don't work and there is no degree of "how well the box works" that could make any difference to the overall feeling.

I've tried rubber loops, rubber loops with copper in them, tens pads, an anal prostate plug thing, a metal cap with a tens pad stuck to it, and all of these in so many different variations and it just never seems to get me there. The loops only seem to work well if they're really tight, but then when they're really tight I can only stand them for a little while before my dick goes purple and I worry about my circulation, the plug never seems to have too much of an effect and the tens pads feel pretty good but ultimately in the end after 20 minutes of feeling really good and thinking I'm getting somewhere, the overall feeling just seems to go down and I end up going soft and giving up.

Am I just immune to the sensations of e-stim?

blondie88 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:30 pm I built my own stereo stim rig from Tronic's design and often wonder is there something I did wrong that causes my box not to feel as good as everyone elses? although it does work ok and although no expert, I assume these boxes either work or don't work and there is no degree of "how well the box works" that could make any difference to the overall feeling.

There could be an issue with the box. I don't know how likely, but as an analog electronic device, it can have a faulty part or connection or improper impedance that results in a bad frequency response. I've never built one of these boxes myself, so I can only speculate how realistic that possibility is. It is certainly possible in theory.

Might as well try another design and see if it's any better. What do you have to lose?

blondie88 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:30 pm ... initially it does feel good and I can imagine how good it could feel, but ultimately every session ends the same way

I've definitely had sessions like that, although I can usually settle into a groove after a rocky start. Sensations definitely change over the long term too, for instance I used to stim entirely with TENS pads and had many great orgasms, but then I got away from that for a few years and when I tried them again, they would only sting, and I was baffled. I stopped using them altogether, but recently I used them again, and they were great. I have had AMAZING sessions where I thought, "That's it, that's my ONLY setup from now on!" but I was unable to duplicate it with the exact same electrodes and files. It's a very touchy hobby! The most reliable thing has been my anal plug. Plugs, I now have three. They always feel the same, freaking fantastic!

Just FIDDLING too much might be the problem. Being too reactive, constantly asking yourself whether it feels good, wondering whether you should adjust it again. I have a penchant for that. It really kills the pleasure. Sometimes you just have to notice the feelings and focus on them without judging them or willing them to be intense. Let it just tickle you for a while. When the pleasure drops, can you ride it out? Sometimes it takes a turn and comes back. If it's not tearing you up, let it ride and see what happens.

We didn't mention lube. You do put some kind of water-based or conductive lube/gel on your loops, metals caps, etc. right? If not, that's the first thing to change. And yes the loops have to be tight. That is one of my biggest challenges, tight enough but not too tight. My latest idea harnesses the springiness of self-clinging cloth wrap to pull a wire loop closed. I'll post an update if it goes anywhere. Good luck!

zebbg69 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:07 am The most reliable thing has been my anal plug. Plugs, I now have three. They always feel the same, freaking fantastic!

Hey zebbg69,

Would you share what anal plugs you are using? I am looking for a more comfortable one.

-digitalparkinglot

re: "tight enough but not too tight"

I'm a big believer in insulating the top half of a rubber loop electrode. In my case, I use a hollow 8mm CR tube, and use a double strand, twisted, of 18ga wire soldered to a 4mm lead as the core. I have one loop for shaft, another loop that runs behind the scrotum and around both (the whole of my) shaft and balls. I can join these with a splitter, I can use them on independent channels, etc. They are most often a joined common, in a tri-phase, with a glans/corona loop and an anal plug on the R and L respectively.

The two strands twisted makes a rather solid and inflexible loop, but that's fine. Just enough give to not damage any moving rubber, firm enough to make great contact, and I can adjust the shape a bit to conform to the curves of the perineum and shft - since neither of those spots are perfectly round, after all. Both these loops are insulated with vinyl tape, aside from the bottom 2" or so on the larger loop and bottom half on the shaft loop.

This allows me to size them for more comfort when I'm fully erect, and when flaccid/softer, the only area that needs to maintain contact is at the bottom of the loop - where it's going to remain in contact because of my sitting position anyway. I'm not sure it helps a whole lot more than personal preference and keeping the area lubed, but I put on an Oxballs Cocksling over them, too. It helps keep thing a little firmer, longer, and makes sure all the *real* sensitive bits stay where they're supposed to.

Plugs? Some days I like the large Flo. Others I like the silicone Habanero. Most often it's the Sirius Noir. I use a splitter with the silicone plugs, so it's a monopole with the loops as the other half of the channel, or if I'm going for a 2 channel setup instead of tri-phase, I'll run it as an independent side.

Lube, Lube, Lube. I was using J-Lube for a while, but I didn't like how it dried, and it didn't last too long without going bad or adding another preservative-laden lube to the mix. I discovered "K-Lube" and it seems to last longer, and mixes easier, and less residue on cleanup.

digitalparkinglot wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:16 pm Would you share what anal plugs you are using? I am looking for a more comfortable one.

The PES Electro-Flex was my first. I bought it in 2004 soon after my ET-312. It is solid CR with the conductive zones on the front and back of the shaft. It gave me a great prostate squeeze by pairing the front zone with a TENS pad on my perineum or a loop around my balls. I always loved the sensations, and it was the one item I used in every session. Of course, I experimented shoving other electrified things up my ass, but no kitchen tool or hardware part could beat it.

When I got my BTStim in 2018, I also bought what Current Pleasures calls the Double Bullet. I don't know who manufactures it, but it is for sale on many sites. The whole surface is aluminum, with the tip isolated from the base, which means it can "ghost fuck." It immediately supplanted the PES, even though its 1.5" diameter takes some effort to insert (when unaroused which unfortunately is how I normally start), where the PES at 1" or so pops right in. The Double Bullet's metal base is a delightful rimmer too, so the extra effort is well worth it, and I have only gone back to the PES a couple of times for novelty. Pro tip: to get ghost-fucked, don't sit with all your weight on the plug.

The Flange by E-Stim Systems sits on the table next to me right now, where I just unboxed it (still in the box is my NEW 2B!). It is my third plug, which was delivered today, so I may have oversold the "three plugs" claim just a bit. I am excited! It is also all metal with the vertical ghost-fuck layout like the Double Bullet, but the shaft is only 1" with tip more separated from a very rimmy-looking base. E-Stim Systems calls it their best seller, and it promises to be even more exquisite than the Double Bullet. I can't wait to find out.