Milovana.com

Kink.com which is mostly know for their diffrent Fetish movies, is going into the Estim world, with a new box and a brand called Deep, that sounds pretty impressive.

https://kinkstore.com/collections/elect ... -power-box

The text taken from the webpage.

After years of creating erotic e-stim scenes for channels like Wired Pussy and Electrosluts, we know what works for e-stim fans and the curious newbie alike. We set out to create the most fully featured e-stim box on the market. The Deep by Kink E-stim Power Box quite literally puts the power, control and devious creativity into the user's hands.

Create an infinitely customized experience with multiple preprogrammed modes, or create your own with the Lua programming language. Four independent channels can work alone, in tandem, or in combinations that create a layered stimulation experience.

It's not a stereostim box as we know it from DIY, it's more like a ET 312 box, but it is so much more than that.

The biggest thing is the LUA programming language which open up so many ways for the community to make things for it, and yeah I could imagine new ways of implementing Estim teasers for it, and custom videos which uses the box in a more precise way, you could imagine a Mistress POV scene for instance just a thought.

As the people behind very playfull says on Discord:

There are script making tools now that could be the basis of that, the problem occurs when the video isn't made with constant camera angle on penetration. even with machine learning teaching it to do what our scripters brains do is next to impossible. but filming a video, especially the way vr is filmed, it would be more practical to build and open and go video.

Kink Devs:
I think all of those options are shitty bandaids and if somebody was going to release a bunch of cutting edge products based around the technology (and also had the capability) - the correct thing to do is to make content that is intentionally geared towards connected toys where the sensations are created with the content as part of the script just like the camera angles, costumes, talent etc are done with planning and intention
It would take some company that had both large expertise/infrastructure in kink specific content creation that also had a cutting edge hardware/consumer electronics team to pull something like that off though


But yeah I am following this new project with interest, because it sounds like something new, and the openess of it, is what is going to drive it forward also.

One other niffty thing is, the screen is touch, so that mean you can set a setting with the touchscreen, and then fine adjust it with the 4 four dials aterwards, which means less wear and tear on the Dial/Pots.

I am curious how it will process stereo input from estim sources such as the Webteases and Estim videos on Milovana. I am sure as soon as someone owns one we will get that kind of feedback.

That looks awesome. Will it be able to play pain signals properly? What about availability in the UK?

If Kink.com were to create custom LUA scripts to go alone with some of their video content then that could be amazing. Guess we will have to wait a while to find out if they plan on anything like that.

phoopha wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:19 pm That looks awesome. Will it be able to play pain signals properly? What about availability in the UK?

It will become avaiable international at later date, there is just the whole CE certification part and other things, and about UK it's a whole other situation because of the No Longer part of EU, it has to do with giving the device a certification so Customs for instance don't destroy the boxes because they don't comply to regulations from my understanding.

I'm guessing it's to make the process a bit more structured. and replacing a bricked/broken device within the US withing the beta stage would be way less hassle than going to the customs circus. But if and when there is a EU batch and the device is in a usable state I'm up for a early adopter slot
MP
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02.08.2021
Yep you you pretty much nailed it - managing a beta /testing prototype rollout on multiple continents is intensely difficult and expensive . Production units will of course ship world wide

But I can only encourage you to join Joanne's E-Stim Community on Discord and follow the process, they have already answered soooo many question there :)

https://www.sexmachinereviews.co.uk/dis ... Njb3JkIl0=

https://discord.com/invite/wcjVy8nk48

tigereye wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:26 pm If Kink.com were to create custom LUA scripts to go alone with some of their video content then that could be amazing. Guess we will have to wait a while to find out if they plan on anything like that.

I think it's what they are hitting at, with what they wrote :)

And about the whole Stereo Stim deal.

would it be possible to make it switch over to stereostim mode? no clue how a estim box works but if it would be possible I'm guessing it needs (a lot) more hardware. Perhaps something for a pro or plus model?
MP
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06.08.2021
Not strictly I dont think since the analog stages are different, however you can write something that takes the stereostim output , processes it arbitrary and then control the estim output and get pretty damn close I suspect
riggs
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06.08.2021
Stereostim uses a lot more energy because it’s constantly outputting whereas TENS has a low duty cycle. Our box isn’t designed for constant output so stuff might overheat.
But with the ability to generate arbitrary TENS output as well as input analog stereo, there’s tons of room to explore how to make the best feeling conversion



Like I said it's not a normal StereoStim box, it's diffrent.


They get really nerdy with the answer here:

Well the ET 312 has a hardware low pass filter and then just looks at the volume of the audio and modulates based on that
We are in fact able to do DSP
so you could for instance implement in software sending the low frequency stuff to channel 1 , high frequency to channel 2
Or you could send the left and right channels of the audio to different channels of estim
(Or any possible combination thereoff )
Ultimately though, if you knew what the pulse train you wanted to create looked like - it should just be programmed in LUA , no need to generate the stereostim files as kind of an awkward intermediary
It should also be possible to write pc / phone based software that processed stereostim , did all of the conversion and then just streamed commands to the box
(We will definitely be open sourcing all the APIs)

But it's the whole Openess of it, which makes me most excited, people can make there own modes and things in LUA, and then implement them as a menu in the system that you can use.

tigereye wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:14 pm I am curious how it will process stereo input from estim sources such as the Webteases and Estim videos on Milovana. I am sure as soon as someone owns one we will get that kind of feedback.

phoopha wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:19 pm That looks awesome. Will it be able to play pain signals properly? What about availability in the UK?

I asked the Kink Team about playing audio files as 'straight through' or modified and this was their response

"Yes, the device can use sound files!

"Will this be a direct audio passthrough like a DIY Powerbox would be, or does the Deep box 'massage' the audio and smooth it out?"--The answer is whichever you want, and more options that haven't existed before! It can interpret the audio completely arbitrarily.

The device has both a microphone, and can take audio in via an adapter to the USB C port. The audio sampling is done at a very high bitrate that is nearly CD quality. That audio can then be interpreted via the Lua script that controls the pattern/box--so this means that it not only can the box utilize audio files, but users and script writers will be able to tweak how the audio playback is expressed. The eStim community and content creators will have full power to make the device interpret audio files however they want it to.

I'm excited about the scripting system, which I think gives eStim content creators more control to create and share eStim sessions and patterns than audio files have in the past. But, it is important to me personally (and I know it is to the eStim community at-large) that the device is still "backwards compatible" with audio input and audio file playback. If you want audio playback that emulates existing, older devices, it can do that; but with higher audio fidelity and more customization possible for interpreting audio, it should also be capable of using audio input in creative ways that current boxes cannot."

So, it sounds like it WON'T 'interpret' pain files and smooth them out, or constant pleasurable files and make them painful like the 2B.

I, for one, am pretty excited about this box. I just hope it comes out sooner in 2022 than later!

I'm very excited about these units.

I've had one on order since I first found out about them. Hopefully the wait won't be much longer. :D

I just ordered mine earlier this week. Can’t wait

BamaSwitch wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:39 pm I'm very excited about these units.

I've had one on order since I first found out about them. Hopefully the wait won't be much longer. :D

Living in EU I have to wait, but I also don't think it will be early release next year, like thay say on discord they will understandable have Betatest, with people in the US, to iron out the kinks so to speak, but I can wait... not! :)

But it sounds really amazing what they have in mind, especially also with the whole connectivity of the other things in the Deep system, they talk about orgasm detection also, I only know of one way, so far, which also works, but will be interessting to say what they come up with.

And also the whole video interactivness of it, when we see a demo.

I'm excited about the scripting system, which I think gives eStim content creators more control to create and share eStim sessions and patterns than audio files have in the past. But, it is important to me personally (and I know it is to the eStim community at-large) that the device is still "backwards compatible" with audio input and audio file playback. If you want audio playback that emulates existing, older devices, it can do that; but with higher audio fidelity and more customization possible for interpreting audio, it should also be capable of using audio input in creative ways that current boxes cannot."

Oh yeas totally agree with the backwards compatibility aspect, with normal audio, having said that I also am looking forward to what will in manner of speaking will be a Deep exclusive creations along the line with more immersive teases, video or text based.

Nearing orgasm, the tease detects it and load up another chapter "oh no mister we don't want that, did I gave permission? we will have to do something about that..."

And if it work as good as the Egde o matic, the tortures tease and denial sections, could be mindblown, still curious about that whole aspect what sorth of detection method they will use, but if it works oh boy :)

The idea of using LUA to add more capabilities is interesting but it seems that it will just raise the bar on how difficult it is to create content, versus the current, simpler estim audio track. It would be nice to have a commercial low-duty cycle/TENS estim box that feels as good as DIY, but no one's done that yet. I have a 2B and et-312 that sit on the shelf, versus my DIY box. So while a better box would be nice, what's lacking is good estim content. Excellent CH estim content gets dropped maybe once a month(?), depending on your tastes. I like softcore and I don't see kink.com making a lot of that.

I don't know it's it's possible, but the killer app would be software that generates estim audio from any video source. Imagine being able to play any porno and have a reasonable estim track! That would be nirvana. I don't care that much if the estim follows the porn action "stroke for stroke", it just needs to take cues from the video and build over time. Maybe something as simple as harnessing a porn detection algorithm that increases the intensity the more skin is shown and if there's more motion in the video? In summary, there's tons of great porn video out there but comparably little estim content to go along with it.