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[PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:15 pm
by nebworx
Hi everybody ! :wave:

First prototype here: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=23804&p=297207#p297207
Need feedback


Here is a extract form my presentation if you want some context :innocent:
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In fact, I discovered CH by "chance". Some time ago, we had been drinking and dancing. As sometimes, it started to get out of control, but this time, taken in the music (hip hop, deep house, dubstep) I started to fuck her in rhythm. We liked it a lot and I started to search on the internet for playlists and ideas... And of course I found CH! I like CH solo very much, but it is not often very suitable for a couple (except for a handjob). I started by extracting the audio tracks, but there were several drawbacks. The video track is often mixed with porn sounds and beats are added. These beats are often too fast for "kidney strokes" (not sure of the translation). I also tried to take the original tracks, but the beats are either fairly consistent or too unpredictable.

So, here I am! From my experience, I hope to progress technically and take advantage of your experiences to offer more "couple friendly" content. I'm starting on an idea of audio tracks (without video), but as it's related to the idea of CH (I also hope to make it a game with a challenge for couples), I guess I can post that in the "on video" section?
I've been doing some research on the forum these last few days and I came up with: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=14550
So there are ideas close to what I would like to do.

What exactly do I want to do? The idea is to make a new type of game inspired by CH but for couples, with fun, surprises, challenges and competition, but no porn. The idea is not to propose PMV but rather a soundtrack, rules and a scenario. On the other hand, the people who will film themselves while carrying out the challenge will probably provide excellent PMV. Imagine a mashup of amateurs fucking at the rythm of the soundtrack ... ;-)

Well, the project is ambitious... Do you like the idea? If we have to go step by step, we can already work on rules and compatible music tracks, interesting in terms of rhythm and hot! Another important point: I am a man in a relationship with a woman. If women, transsexuals or other identities of genre want to help me to make this project as broad and inclusive as possible, come, help and criticize !

Starting point (game I play with my wife): We put some EDM music playlists and we fuck in rythm. We change manually the playlist to match our excitation level. Generally, it ends with big house beats (ex. Animals, Stampede, etc.). There is not clear rules, but in addition to the rythm I adapt the depth of penetration to beat types. I don't know anything about music terms but I would say that basically a symbale is very superficial while a bass drum is deep. And therefore, on the tracks Stampede or Animals, there are rather superficial fast ramps followed by very very deep basses (tracks for doggystyle :-P ). so it's quite basic, but my wife (and I too) like it very much already.

So, how to improve that. First, random playlists with manual intervention should be replaced by a unique progressive and scenarized track. Second, my wife love hard doggystyle sex, but after 1 hour pounding her, I am totally exhausted ! Sorry at 40 years old, I no longer have my physical fitness as a young man. So, we need pauses and other round types !

Ideas of rounds (without order, just a list of ideas)
  • dancing, twerking, streaptease
  • oral sex
  • masturbation / handjob
  • penetration
  • orgasm
  • sextoys
  • edging
  • ...
  • ...
  • ...
In fact there is no limit. Rounds type will define the type of challenge (soft, hard, BDSM, ...)

Ideas of rules / requests :
  • (penetration rounds) adapt the depth of penetration to beat types.
  • (any rounds) a girl must come if requested
  • (any rounds) dirty talk if requested
  • (any rounds) one of the partners has to beg if requested
  • (in case of failure) dares / penalties
  • scoring, bonuses, level, perks
  • ...
I will also try to maintain a base of tracks in this thread that match some constraints (like interesting but predicatble beats). All propositions are welcome !
I have a lot of ideas, but if I continue I will never post this message... To you! :rolleyes:

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:17 pm
by nebworx
Reserved for list of music tracks (with YT link). I put my personal classification but I am open to all proposals. The bpm range is for information only.

Tender tracks (<100 bpm) :
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slow / explicit / hot tracks (<115 bpm) :
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medium tracks (115-125 bpm) :
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hard tracks (125-135 bpm):
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very hard tracks (>135 bpm) or "fun" or "impossible" or other very hard stuff:
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Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:30 pm
by 3xTripleXXX
Neat idea. :) All of my Cock Heroes are mixed at around 140-145 BPM, so even with couples, I think you could pump up those rookie numbers. ;)

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:01 am
by nebworx
I am a total fan of your CH! besides, if I'm not talking bullshit, your videos have 2 channels, one without porn sounds. Very good idea btw :-)

140-145 is very feasible as long as you don't add faster rhythms (like double/triple times or crazy things). My wife and I love psytrance, so 140-160 bpm range is ok for few minutes, however it is necessary to have enough cardiac stamina because there are rarely any breaks. ;-)

Afterwards, as I imagine to put handjob oriented rounds (him or her), it also leaves a lot of freedom for the music and the rhythm.

I'm a newbie in sound edition. Which free softwares should I learn and use ? Audacity ?
I read in the forum something about "funscript" and I understand (not sure) that it can be used to manage speed or something related to ... should I also be interested in it?

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:09 pm
by 3xTripleXXX
I make multiple versions, but they all have the porn sounds. I like having them mixed in. My versions have to do with the types of patterns. Some people like simpler patterns with fewer changes, while others enjoy patterns that match the melodies and quick breaks and such better. And then with the newest one, I made a third, edging version.

And yeah, I was posting a bit tongue in cheek, since if you're actually fucking to the beat, 140+ BPM would get a little crazy for long periods of time, and double/tripletimes would be out of the question unless you have pelvises of steel.

I'm actually a huge UK/Happy Hardcore fan, but since that tends to sit up near 180BPM it'd be a bit over the top for anything longer than a short, I think, and almost definitely not for couples. But I love Hands Up as well, which sits in the 140-150BPM range, usually, so I've been mostly using that.

I mix my soundtracks live using VirtualDJ, and just export the output to a file, but I don't think that's what most people do. I just enjoy playing at the DJing experience and think it's fun, and fun is what I do this for, after all. :) I'd imagine FL Studio would be a good program for doing this kind of thing, or similar ones to that, where you can lay down the tracks, adjust the BPM and such and match them up carefully, but I'm not experienced enough with it to say for sure. My oldest son uses it to make music, and I know a ton of EDM producers use it to make theirs.

As for funscripts, those are for connecting toys like the Handy or the Fleshlight Launch. Basically, they're instructions to those toys telling them to move so they're synchronized to the CH beats. If you're not doing that stuff, I wouldn't worry about it. I just export the click tracks for my CH videos separately so that those who do can take them and turn them into funscripts.

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:48 pm
by nebworx
Thank you for this very informative response :-)

I didn't mention Hardcore, but of course it is fun in couple but for a very short period of time :yes: :lol:

Ok, I forget funscript, I really didn't understand the prupose. :lol:

I look at FL studio and VirtualDJ...

VirtualDJ seems impressively easy but is expensive ! :-(
I read on the official forum that download comes with a free trial. Is there a trick to have an infinite free trial ? Is it enoughfor my purpose ?

Maybe I can give a try to FL studio and compare with others, but it seems very complicated to master. And I realize that I have a lot to learn ...

Are there any ideas on game rules?

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:41 pm
by 3xTripleXXX
nebworx wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:48 pm Thank you for this very informative response :-)

I didn't mention Hardcore, but of course it is fun in couple but for a very short period of time :yes: :lol:

Ok, I forget funscript, I really didn't understand the prupose. :lol:

I look at FL studio and VirtualDJ...

VirtualDJ seems impressively easy but is expensive ! :-(
I read on the official forum that download comes with a free trial. Is there a trick to have an infinite free trial ? Is it enoughfor my purpose ?

Maybe I can give a try to FL studio and compare with others, but it seems very complicated to master. And I realize that I have a lot to learn ...

Are there any ideas on game rules?
VirtualDJ is free for use as long as you're not connecting mixing hardware. You can do it right in the software for free.

FL Studio is expensive, though, but it was a birthday present for my son at some point. That said, I've never used it myself, so it was just a suggestion for an alternative if you wanted to line the songs up carefully, rather than mixing the songs live like a DJ would. :)

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:36 pm
by nebworx
I played for a while with virtualDJ... I even got a bit distracted I think. :-P
I think I'll see what I can do with the sound to edit or mix tracks. Thank you.
it's going to take practice and inspiration.

I don't make much progress on rules to make the game fun and challenging. Any ideas ?

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:27 pm
by nebworx
I've made some progress on the concept and the constraints I set for myself.

The game must be able to be played with or without video, because clearly pornographic images don't interest everyone. So the audio has to be able to stand on its own.

Proposition 1 :

I imagine a first version like this:
  • The video begins with rules, samples and explanations.
  • Two types of "beeps" : high (acute) and low. Each player choose a tone. The low sound being rather directed for the person who will penetrate the other one. The idea is also to be able to manage the rhythm and the active side according to the scenario and the roles. I already have script ideas :innocent:
  • Each track or (series of tracks) is preceded by a certain beep to warn the person who will be active. I plan breaks during transitions between tracks to change the active person.
  • The point that questions me the most (still today) is how to choose the type of sequence (oral sex, teasing, penetration, edging, etc.), without having to watch the video instructions. I thought about audio messages, but if I record myself, I think I might break the magic of the moment. :-D I also imagined to put some sounds to code this, but either you have to learn Morse code, or it's going to be very minimalist, which is not optimal for specific scenarios. In the end, I came to the conclusion that during breaks and just after the player beeps, he had to secretly go and look at the screen to find out his instructions.In the end, you will have to play with the video, but not necessarily watch the pornographic scenes, just the instructions during the breaks. Those who want to add a challenge will still be able to display the pornography. Or no porn but a beatmeter to anticipate the rhythm of the music... from my point of view, I don't need porn, my wife is by far more exciting :-P
tell me what you think about this. Does this seem inclusive enough ?

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:57 am
by nebworx
Hey 3xTripleXXX.

The playlist and the script for the first episode are almost done.

I'm looking for happy hardcore tracks (a tribute for your CH videos). Something romantic in the text, but sexually explicit with a huge brutal drop around 160-170 BPM (or I can manage the BPM with virtualDJ or Audacity).

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:11 pm
by Tobe
Hey nebworx,
about the voice issue, I would recommend a male and a female voice to give either the instrucions to her or to him/both. Might be a bit difficult to get nice voices for this, but if you can make this happen, it would be clear for whom the instructions are and might also a bit contribute to the excitement (:

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:07 pm
by 3xTripleXXX
nebworx wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:57 am Hey 3xTripleXXX.

The playlist and the script for the first episode are almost done.

I'm looking for happy hardcore tracks (a tribute for your CH videos). Something romantic in the text, but sexually explicit with a huge brutal drop around 160-170 BPM (or I can manage the BPM with virtualDJ or Audacity).
Haha, thanks. :) My videos are only 145 BPM though. HH / UK Hardcore are too fast for a full CH. I might use a song for a quickie one though. So I mostly go to Hands Up for my songs.

That said, I just heard this one today that's brand new that I like (Fracus - Gets Me Higher): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUkL7XCRK9A

Want to go sexy, there's Bass Slut by S3RL (I think Sir Derriere III did one with this song): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v394-c6HA4

Sweet: You're My Angel by Darren Styles and Breeze: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Cvvx9MFsc

Absolute banger with an awesome drop, Stronger by Stonebank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1NuCWfYeYc

One of my favorites with a killer drop: Never Forget You by Alex Prospect (I think it's a remix of a Zara Larsson tune): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Wm9evWOIc

Suck My... by X-Cess, if you want explicit lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534EbMBbXoc

Great cum round finish with motivational lyrics, Don't Stop Push It Now (Squad-E Remix) by Dan Winter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEZJosOe1dI

Hope some of those hit the spot. :)

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:26 pm
by nebworx
Oh! a pile of good sound (and new YT sub)! :whistle:

For sounds around 140BPM I have psytrance and tracks from your videos. It's the 150-170 segment that I have difficulty to fill in. After 175 BPM, I have some tracks from 185 up to 210 BPM, but it's maybe unbearable ?

I discovered S3RL and I think I fall in love :-D
Bass slut :love: :love: :love:
Few other tracks of interest :
Tell Me What You Want (160BPM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6uDfiVeJm4,
Candy (175BPM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6nM9cD6rF0
Heaven (175BPM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb_4tY-F1ls
You're My Superhero (175BPM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol1ijzAHy-4
Nasty (175BPM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rYrAUqUmKo

another track:
Kane Scott - My Love (Extended Mix) (170BPM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbXVotN600Q

I should be able to play with BPM at +/- 10 BPM. I've noticed that slowing down music too much makes drums less punchy. Do you have any advice ?

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:33 pm
by 3xTripleXXX
Keeps Me High by QUB3, Quickdrop & B0UNC3 (160 bpm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wvo7otr0kM
Wild Love by Surilla (160 bpm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3yuCNrk3Xw
Miracle by Marc Korn & Jaycee Madoxx (Withard & Quickdrop Remix) (160 bpm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO37TrH7Sdo
Bitches by DJ Isaac (150 bpm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5yebxVz5Hw
Heroes by Da Tweekaz & Darren Styles (150 bpm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chUUf-IyCqs
I N33d U by Mad Crow (160 bpm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc-6b89mcZs
Oh Oh Oh Sexy Vampire by Disko Warp feat. Fright Ranger (170 bpm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Na1A6lSHns

Some suggestions for 150 to 170 bpm. :) That said, there's a lot of Hands Up that falls into 150 bpm and lots of Happy Hardcore and UK Hardcore that falls into 170 bpm. I find more hardstyle in between, but I'm not as into that for this kind of stuff at least. I mostly explore by looking at related videos and such on youtube or other sites, then just grab the songs I like and see how they pan out.

I definitely think speeding up a song comes out better than slowing it down, but sometimes you have to play with it. When I do my mixes, I try to use songs that are already within +/- maybe 5 bpm, though I'm more likely to speed up a slow song than slow down a fast one.

Re: [PROJECT] Fuck Heroes (for couples)

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:32 pm
by nebworx
Thanks for all the help.

After more time than I imagined, I finally produced a prototype and made a private .torrent.

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