Milovana.com

Hey Everyone.

I'm sorry I haven't participated much in the forum these past few months. It's been amazing, but rather time consuming putting all the information which was on a previous site, here on Milovana. For those who are wondering, eventually many of the wicked sexual constructs I have will find there home here. But first we are starting with the Urge. Seraph0x and I agree that when it comes to positive sexuality on the web, while there is a lot of informative places, and there are some fabulous sites which cover kink... when it comes to a place that fits all means and modes of sexuality, there isn't as much as there should be, and it isn't as inclusive as it could be.

But there is some other things I want to ask about.

This is Seraph0x's site... but he's letting me add a lot of myself to it and for that I'm grateful. As I get to add wicked things, there are some things that will change... and I'd love your feedback. Tell me what you think, please:

Advertising. We want to keep Milovana free. Free means that anyone can find what they need. But advertising will help cover some of the costs of this site- which Seraph0x has born alone. It will also help me. How do you feel about advertising? What advertising would you like to see? Currently we are thinking of having, through out the URGE links to shopping at my favorite kink store in the US- and a European equivilant... so that if you are reading up on Strap Ons, and it strikes your fancy and you decide to buy one, following the link helps us. Also, we were thinking about linking to the Kink dot Com sites... not just because they have some of the hottest content.... but also because they are the most ethical and sexually open sites of their kind. They really do well by their models and staff, and it shows. What do you think?

Expanding the base. I personally believe that Milovana will only get better when it's deliciously subverted. I've talked about this before, but I want to see real, amazing humans of all sexual varieties creating teases... I want Teases for Straight Women, Butch Dyke teases, Leather Daddy Teases, Poly Teases, Mature Teases, Anal Teases... and so much more. I want anyone who craves anything to find it here. What do you think? Will you mind if there is a full effort to make this more open to everyone?

What else would you like to see here? Seraph0x has his hands full for the next few months as we make the URGE the amazing resource it has the potential to be, but there can and will be more features and functionality. Let's talk about what you want!

Kisses and Hugs to Everyone here. I'm so proud to be making this amazing thing!

Alison

First, I'd like to say that Milovana is one of the best sites I've had the pleasure of stumbling across.. For several months now I have been entertained by the teases and by the interesting reading on the forums, it is only very recently that I became a forum member.

About advertising on the site. I don't think it's in any way unreasonable to find ways to defer the cost of running a site of this magnitude. This site as it is, a testament to what I imagine to have been many long nights staring at page after page of server configuration, php and html. Designing the site, designing the graphics, experimenting with page layout after page layout, deciding which one will work best.

All for the benefit of this community which has prospered and grown since it's inception.

What am I trying to say with all of this rambling? This site has no doubt been ALOT OF WORK!!

Work deserves compensation, so in my opinion, if keeping the site free means having ads on the site, so be it.

At the risk of making the site more work than it already is, I do have a suggestion.

There could always be a paid membership that allows browsing without the advertisements, just a thought.

Also the kink dot com sites are hot and I support ads from them 100%, agreeing with you about their ethics 100%.


ciao for now

EDIT: and about diversity... again in my opinion, that's what makes the world go 'round.. ;)

This is fantastic news.

I have no problem with subtle advertising. LOL CB3000 should have a product placement fee.

And diversity is good, just needs some labelling and also a random option, for if you are feeling lucky.

Tease writing is such fun and can be clever and stimulating.

So, all the best, my only advice is slow and steady.

So far I...

Totally agree with the ads. Ad revenue helps with every penny, and as long as these ads aren't pop up ads, I give a thumbs up. And as for expanding our base...I was thinking about that one a little bit as well. Imagine a tease where you're not playing the role of the sub, and are rather playing the role of the dominant. Just a thought, but it'll give the dominant women and men little games to play too.

We have reviewed seral products in the past,
old forums
So I would start there,
My only question is where would the ads appear?
Would it be at the beginning?

Every tease?

Each page? (I would not want that)

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but some sites pay you if you link to them?
I'm sure that would be cool as well.

In genral I'm for ads , as long as they are not to pervasive.

I'm all for carefully chosen ads that know their place (i.e. that don't make noise or pop up in front of content). Kink.com host a fantastic set of sites, I'd be happy to have them advertise here. Google adsense is also a good way to provide content-appropriate and unobtrusive ads. Hosting and running a site is expensive, the admins certainly deserve to recover some of their costs.

As for expanding the community, I'm in favor as long as it's done organically. I think that people will write the teases that are to their personal taste better than trying to write for someone elses kink. It can be awkward to try and force that kind of thing.

I don't really care about ads, i think seraphox and others will choose and place them wisely :)
Some thoughts about another part of your post:

Alison wrote:Expanding the base. I personally believe that Milovana will only get better when it's deliciously subverted. I've talked about this before, but I want to see real, amazing humans of all sexual varieties creating teases... I want Teases for Straight Women, Butch Dyke teases, Leather Daddy Teases, Poly Teases, Mature Teases, Anal Teases... and so much more. I want anyone who craves anything to find it here. What do you think? Will you mind if there is a full effort to make this more open to everyone?

I fully agree here, it would be great to cover every aspect imaginable. But there MUST be a better way to categorize/tag teases. Maybe there should be some people responsible for checking tags for new teases and improve them if necessary, or it should be possible for all (or some) members to add/change/remove tags from teases. In my opinion this ist the most important thing if more will be covered, if teases are written for other kinks or people..

regards,
SomeOne

Alison wrote:Advertising. We want to keep Milovana free. Free means that anyone can find what they need. But advertising will help cover some of the costs of this site- which Seraph0x has born alone. It will also help me. How do you feel about advertising? What advertising would you like to see? Currently we are thinking of having, through out the URGE links to shopping at my favorite kink store in the US- and a European equivilant... so that if you are reading up on Strap Ons, and it strikes your fancy and you decide to buy one, following the link helps us. Also, we were thinking about linking to the Kink dot Com sites... not just because they have some of the hottest content.... but also because they are the most ethical and sexually open sites of their kind. They really do well by their models and staff, and it shows. What do you think?

Affiliate links to relevant stores is a great idea. Showing links to where you can be strap ons, chastity devices, fleshlights or whatever is perfectly fine with me. I can live with some "regular" ads as well, as long as it doesn't have sound, annoying animations or gets in the way of the content. Google ad links would be ideal. They're non-intrusive, yet often interesting and relevant to the content.

If there's money to be had by just linking to "I want to know more" sites, then go for that as well for the URGE section. That's how advertising is supposed to be done!

Expanding the base. I personally believe that Milovana will only get better when it's deliciously subverted. I've talked about this before, but I want to see real, amazing humans of all sexual varieties creating teases... I want Teases for Straight Women, Butch Dyke teases, Leather Daddy Teases, Poly Teases, Mature Teases, Anal Teases... and so much more. I want anyone who craves anything to find it here. What do you think? Will you mind if there is a full effort to make this more open to everyone?

It's always fun to find teases that introduce something new. I'm all for having a wider selection of teases. But the tagging system might need some expanding to cope with that. :)

Alison, I've loved this site for quite some time, though I've never gotten around to making a tease personally, and I thought I'd give my opinion on your ideas.

On advertising,
I don't think any site can really survive without some form of income. Without member's areas, or a long-term sponsor, the only option is advertising. As long as it's relevant, I don't think anybody will really mind. OrgasmDenial.com is a great example of this. The advertising there has always been relevant to the community, and few people have ever minded. The worst thing is when a site is sponsored by random Google ad-sense ads. Very few people want to see an ad for The New Yorker when they're interested in erotica.

As for broadening the community, I can't imagine a better idea. I think many of us here are the kind of people who are very open to a variety of experiences and types of people. I know that every few weeks I find some new fetish I never knew existed but that totally turns me on, even if it wasn't intended for people like me.

There are so many different sexual sites out there with their own communities that seem to never interact with communities at other sites, even when the things that get them hot are extremely similar. Bringing together more kinds of people can only benefit us all.

I have been on many sites over the years and years since I discovered fetishes, and I'm still looking for one that manages to bridge the gaps between all the communities and interests I've found out there.

I hope that my opinions help encourage you to go through with your plans, and I apologize for being so long-winded, I have a hard time stopping myself once I've started.

-ISurfer/Stewart999us/Maddie Fay

Heres my thoughtsaaaa:

Advertising is the way forward. How can this site keep going with no way of supporting it? I would rather see some ads instead of this site just vanish one day. Plus there is a lot of product placement in the forums already just on the CB/sex toy discussions and stuff.

Hey maybe you could persuade a sex-toy manufacturer to sponsor the ongoing teledildonics project

Diversity is what makes this site unique for me and the reason why I stay around so much. I can only welcome and encourage as much difference and openess.
One thing I am unclear on with the webteases though... this is a tease and denial site right?... or is it a captioned images site? I mean they are called webTEASES, should it all be t&d based?? Or maybe just guided masturbation...? I dont know because Ive seen teases written in a lot of different ways and thats whats good about this site.

Maybe even I like that fact that its not defined in any way. I mean, we didnt write the rules for what webteases should be.

Obviously everyone is here because theyre interested in some aspects of tease and denial but as more diversity is introduced will that change in any way?

cumhardy wrote: One thing I am unclear on with the webteases though... this is a tease and denial site right?... or is it a captioned images site? I mean they are called webTEASES, should it all be t&d based?? Or maybe just guided masturbation...? I dont know because Ive seen teases written in a lot of different ways and thats whats good about this site.

Maybe even I like that fact that its not defined in any way. I mean, we didnt write the rules for what webteases should be.

Obviously everyone is here because theyre interested in some aspects of tease and denial but as more diversity is introduced will that change in any way?

It would be hard to write a webtease that didn't incorporate some aspect of tease and denial. However, I have tried my hardest to write ones that incorporated other aspects as well. I think the webtease as a medium can only grow, and trying to define it as only T&D-related would be limiting.

I'm glad to see that most people here are in favor of the community and the medium growing.