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Posted: **Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:17 pm**

Hi,

first of all: Sorry for my bad english because its not my native language. But I will try my best.

Then I want to thank this community and especially the creators of the fantastic Cock Hero videos. It's not only because I really like this new challenging way of watching porn. It's especially because it introduced my wife into watching porn with me. She never liked that before but now she really enjoys it. Not only CH, also regular porn. But she prefers CH and we are watching them regulary together. We lie next to each other and prefer to do it ourselves. She fails all the time.

I wonder if there are other couples out there watching CH together?

Sadly the number of available videos that are enjoyable by straight girls is very limited. There are a few labeled as "Cock Hero for couples" but they are basically fucking to the beat. Which is not what we like.
It's not that easy to find a CH without lesbian / group / gagging / choking / bukkake / dp scenes that will turn her off. And 15 minutes of dancing girls is not the best warmup for her... even if she tries her best.

So with this post we want to check if others are interested in a different kind of CH suitable for couples. Maybe creators?
We talked about how it should be structured in detail and had some fresh / great ideas which we would like to share. If others are interested in this discussion.

Regards

Posted: **Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:59 pm**

Hey there EdgeFan,

First off, your English is just fine.

Secondly, I would like to say I would support this avenue as well. I have been trying to get my significant other to watch/play CH but cannot convince her as of yet. With more videos of the type you are suggesting, I think it may just turn her over to the dark side

then we can have some fun together.

i suspect you and I are not alone in this viewpoint. Perhaps placing some of your ideas in this thread may tweak the interest and spark the creative juices of some of our amazing content creators here. :mbounce:

Posted: **Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:02 pm**

My wife and I do enjoy watching together - but similar to your experiences - only certain ones. We don't do so frequently, but once in a while, it's a nice kind to throw in. I think what you're looking for is not prevalent enough to have lots to choose from as you opine, but could be, yes. There's definitely a need for more.
In the meantime, I recommend to you to find some PMVs on PornHub that fit the criteria you're looking for. Some are the rauch type that you suggest she would not be in to (same as my wife); but there are many with just straight vanilla b/g sex.

You can do some searches on there for porn for girls/ladies/women and find some suitable material.

Posted: **Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:45 pm**

I never designed my Cock Hero's with couples in mind, but they could be something you'd both enjoy based on what she doesn't like? They are all very much based on my own taste and I'm not really into what you listed either. I know I have 1 lesbian clip in one of them (1984) but that was a one time occurrence that fit with the theme of the round. All 3 of them are pretty much b/g normal sex and blowjobs, nothing crazy.

It definitely seems like a good concept though, I've seen it pop up more on here lately. Sounds like an interesting untapped market. Ideas for it would be welcome for sure!

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:56 am**

Thanks for your feedback!

@ViceCityLights: We have put your CH on top of our playlist. They look very promising and suitable. Thanks a lot!

Okay, let's go a little bit deeper into some details:

1. General
- A CH for couples should also be playable by single-f / single-m.
- An instruction should be provided at the beginning. Is a beat a "up-or-down" or "up-and-down" and stuff like that.
- We think that the perfect length is around 45 minutes.
- We prefer to follow an easy to hear beat sound to make focussing on the content easier.
- Beat changes should be announced by numbers like 1234567.
- Breaks between rounds should be as short as possible like 10 seconds. That's enough to lube up again and read a short instruction if needed.
- Don't use scenes where girls are getting degraded. Beside the things I mentioned above, piss/squirt, hairy pussy and huge tits are also distracting for her.
- It's okay for her that porn is usually focussed on girls. But males shouldn't be cut out and male-POV only scenes should be avoided.
- To clarify: Rough sex is fine for a girl to enjoy a CH. There is no need to use only semi-hardcore stuff. But it should begin soft / slowly.
- Girls are really curious about stuff like unusual positions and maybe some light fetish things.

2. Countdown
The main target for us is to cum together at the end. So we like to follow a countdown (30 seconds) and cum very precisely at zero.
Ideally the beat should go on for another 30 seconds after the cum command.
We really get pissed off after watching a new CH that simply stops (without countdown / cum command) followed by a congratulations message. A "free-to-cum" round is also not very satisfiying for us because we simply like to get instructed and prepared to cum together.

3. Cum chance
My wife can cum multiple times. Even if she fails sometimes, she tries to hold it back as she is not instructed to cum. I encourage her to not hold it back as it would be more fun.
So we came to the idea that the perfect setting would be to have a female-only "Cum Chance" countdown at the end of some rounds.
In fact this would be a slightly longer double-time with a 30 seconds countdown followed by the cum command and another 5 seconds countdown to limit the cum chance. This will make it more challenging for the man to hold it back at doubletime while the the girl has a shaking orgasm next to him.

4. Asyncronous beatmeter
We had the idea that two beatmeters would add some new and fun play styles. This would make it possible to play a continously fast doubletime phase near the end to alternate.
One is on doubletime while the other is on slow/normal speed until it's switching. It could also be fun for any faster switching like f: 1234567, m: 1234567, f:1234567 and so on.
Audio beats should always follow the leading (faster) one.
For this case two vertical beatmeters would be perfect. Like a pink female one on the left side and a male blue one on the right side. This could replace a horizontal beatmeter when needed or always stays at vertical and beats of both are matching most of the time.

5. Edging
We found out that edging could be an additional challenging quest in a CH. But it shouldn't be repeated a lot and an edge(-chance) has to be announced 30 seconds before.
Two beatmeters would make it possible to have an f-edge followed by an m-edge and an f/m-edge. That sounds nice but should be in the last rounds if implemented.
We would also prefer a fast beat sound (acts like a benchmark) while edging. It's better than the usual silence used in other edge CH scenes.
Edging would be a bonus both can enjoy but it's not necessary.

If such a CH would follow themes this could be some ideas for rounds:

1. Short warm-up with softcore like couples doing sensual kisses, touching, undressing, teasing and stuff like that.
2. Going further with masturbation in front of the other, handjobs and males rubbing clit / fingering pussy. (We can help with scene selecions)
3. Blowjob / Pussy licking. (alternating)
4. Hardcore rounds building up in speed / roughness.
5. The final cum countdown should also be accompanied by girls climaxing (while having sex or being licked). Not only limited by jizzing in girls faces.

Regards

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:58 am**

Although not for everybody, I like the idea of multi-orgasm Cum Chances before the big finale. I would see this particularly fit for an edge round. However, no warning for the edge rounds because it's part of the challenge, to be able to handle it.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:14 pm**

I have created a quick mockup for the asynchronous beatmeter idea:

: ch_mockup.jpg (265.4 KiB) Viewed 4547 times

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:19 pm**

That is a great breakdown! I second the motion of a bit extra time of music and beats after the cum command (on any CH video). All to often the cum command is followed immediately by silence/credits without some extra music to finish off if you could not quite get it on the second it was scheduled for....

My significant other has also commented on some porn she has seen and is quite turned off by the surgical bazookas swinging in the camera. Naturals look so much better to both of us, and I suspect most people would agree. Not all, but certainly most augmentation surgery looks unnatural during sex scenes. Sure, post surgical posing can look nice but once the action starts and you can see the "boobie steps", it can be quite distracting and a real turn-off. Personally I prefer small and real over big and fake on any day of the week.

For those videos that seem to qualify under the "couple friendly" banner, perhaps we should make a detailed list here

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:39 pm**

edgefan wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:56 am Thanks for your feedback!

@ViceCityLights: We have put your CH on top of our playlist. They look very promising and suitable. Thanks a lot!

Okay, let's go a little bit deeper into some details:

1. General
- A CH for couples should also be playable by single-f / single-m.
- An instruction should be provided at the beginning. Is a beat a "up-or-down" or "up-and-down" and stuff like that.
- We think that the perfect length is around 45 minutes.
- We prefer to follow an easy to hear beat sound to make focussing on the content easier.
- Beat changes should be announced by numbers like 1234567.
- Breaks between rounds should be as short as possible like 10 seconds. That's enough to lube up again and read a short instruction if needed.
- Don't use scenes where girls are getting degraded. Beside the things I mentioned above, piss/squirt, hairy pussy and huge tits are also distracting for her.
- It's okay for her that porn is usually focussed on girls. But males shouldn't be cut out and male-POV only scenes should be avoided.
- To clarify: Rough sex is fine for a girl to enjoy a CH. There is no need to use only semi-hardcore stuff. But it should begin soft / slowly.
- Girls are really curious about stuff like unusual positions and maybe some light fetish things.

2. Countdown
The main target for us is to cum together at the end. So we like to follow a countdown (30 seconds) and cum very precisely at zero.
Ideally the beat should go on for another 30 seconds after the cum command.
We really get pissed off after watching a new CH that simply stops (without countdown / cum command) followed by a congratulations message. A "free-to-cum" round is also not very satisfiying for us because we simply like to get instructed and prepared to cum together.

3. Cum chance
My wife can cum multiple times. Even if she fails sometimes, she tries to hold it back as she is not instructed to cum. I encourage her to not hold it back as it would be more fun.
So we came to the idea that the perfect setting would be to have a female-only "Cum Chance" countdown at the end of some rounds.
In fact this would be a slightly longer double-time with a 30 seconds countdown followed by the cum command and another 5 seconds countdown to limit the cum chance. This will make it more challenging for the man to hold it back at doubletime while the the girl has a shaking orgasm next to him.

4. Asyncronous beatmeter
We had the idea that two beatmeters would add some new and fun play styles. This would make it possible to play a continously fast doubletime phase near the end to alternate.
One is on doubletime while the other is on slow/normal speed until it's switching. It could also be fun for any faster switching like f: 1234567, m: 1234567, f:1234567 and so on.
Audio beats should always follow the leading (faster) one.
For this case two vertical beatmeters would be perfect. Like a pink female one on the left side and a male blue one on the right side. This could replace a horizontal beatmeter when needed or always stays at vertical and beats of both are matching most of the time.

5. Edging
We found out that edging could be an additional challenging quest in a CH. But it shouldn't be repeated a lot and an edge(-chance) has to be announced 30 seconds before.
Two beatmeters would make it possible to have an f-edge followed by an m-edge and an f/m-edge. That sounds nice but should be in the last rounds if implemented.
We would also prefer a fast beat sound (acts like a benchmark) while edging. It's better than the usual silence used in other edge CH scenes.
Edging would be a bonus both can enjoy but it's not necessary.

If such a CH would follow themes this could be some ideas for rounds:

1. Short warm-up with softcore like couples doing sensual kisses, touching, undressing, teasing and stuff like that.
2. Going further with masturbation in front of the other, handjobs and males rubbing clit / fingering pussy. (We can help with scene selecions)
3. Blowjob / Pussy licking. (alternating)
4. Hardcore rounds building up in speed / roughness.
5. The final cum countdown should also be accompanied by girls climaxing (while having sex or being licked). Not only limited by jizzing in girls faces.

Regards

Consider technique options, too. Edging is one, but also hinting, rhythm (CH beats), etc...as on this link:

https://www.omgyes.com/en/how-it-works

Using video like Hegre-Art, combined with varied, tastefully done instruction could be an amazing instructional, educational and communication-enhancing CH/VH (Vagina Hero) series.

I started making something along these lines and had some guy-focused rounds, some girl-focused, some 'both', similar variation to what you describe. Haven't gotten it far enough along to try, but I think the concept has great potential.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:21 pm**

I few years ago there was such a CH small segment made. Can't remember the name of it, or the creator, but it was experimenting with the very thing being suggested.

There was a pink and left vertical running stroke bar. IIRC, the male stimulated her to the pink bar, and the female would stroke the male to the blue.

It wasn't very long and probably didn't get a lot of interest in it, so it probably was never expanded upon; but this conversation and stated interest by many might rekindle that spark of an idea.

-TL

Posted: **Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:56 am**

It was "Cock Hero - Couple" and yes it has both beat meters and stuff for both sides as discussed.

The couples stuff could be called "Couples Hero" lol. It keeps the CH in there

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