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Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:47 am
by ComboNo1
Ok, I have a question, and I would like to get an opinion from everyone out there:

I'm almost done with the Cock Hero video that I am working on.

There is no hardcore in the video, so my original plan was to have NO REWARD ROUND ... like how all the old Cock Hero videos used to be. The final round ends, you get a "congrats" message, and the credits roll. End of video.

However, I started thinking tonight that maybe there NEEDS to be a reward round. Is a reward round something that is expected to be included in a Cock Hero video at this point? Has the reward round become an essential component?

I can give more details as it applies to the particular video that I'm creating, if it helps - but I'm curious what everybody thinks about this in general too.

Thanks!

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:18 am
by Alex69
Ok, let me give you my point. I'll try to be straight forward in this.
What follows is only and exclusively my opinion in this regard.

For me, a reward round -or at least a contdown to a cum order- is essential. I play CH because I want to release, because it is time to fap and enjoy, and this is an elaborate way of doing so.

Believe me when I say that I avoid any CH that has no reward or release round. I hate it.
I'm not able to just stimulate and then... oh, there is no ejaculation sorry. I don't think that could be much healthier either.

If a domme orders that to me, well, that would be a different scenario, because I'm enjoying the submission of the female I worship. But for me, the Cock Hero videos are a more sophisticated way of fapping and enjoying good quality porn, selected by the cretor of the video. And, as well as happens with the porn, I just want to cum at the end.

That's all, I think.

TLDR: Yes. I only play a Cock Hero if there is a reward round and can release all the... you know, tension.

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:24 am
by zingg
My two cents:

A reward round doesn't go amiss, but it has to be executed well, and I find they rarely are. If you've made a softcore-only video (and HUGE thanks to you for that, by the way), don't switch to hardcore for the reward round. I'm also not a fan of reward rounds that for some reason drop the music. The best reward rounds just feel like an extension of the rest of the video, except you get to cum. If that's the sort of reward round you're going for, I'm all for it. if not, I'm probably going to just jump back to whatever part of the video I liked the best and take that as my reward.

In general, if a CH has long enough scenes (either one scene per round, or a small number on rotation), it's relatively easy to jump back to whichever scene was hottest. If that describes your CH, I wouldn't personally consider the reward round to be essential.

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:16 am
by Maskeraid
I'm torn when it comes to reward rounds, to a degree.

I do prefer videos with reward rounds, it's kinda the whole point really. To me anyway. But you are right when you said that few are executed well. Especially in the ones that forego music in favour of dirty talk or some shit. Dirty talk is an area that is really touch and go for me, there's an extremely fine line between hot and trashy. I have often hit the reward round for a the game and hit a point where I'm just really not into what I'm seeing during the round and I'll just go back and replay a part earlier that I enjoyed or watch some regular porn.

I do not mind too much If a video doesn't have one...but if that's the case, then I would definitely like to know upfront, prior to playing it. I forget which it was, but there was a 2 part video a while back. The first part came out and didn't have a reward round and said that you would have to wait for the second part to finish... fortunately both parts were out (I think) but I waited. Next day came and I was really itching to complete it.

Played through, loving hanging on the edge and trying not to pop through most of the video... hit the end... no reward round! I even think it had an ending that was like: "countdown, 30, 29. 28, 27, 26, 25......10, only joking, no reward for you..." kinda thing. I was super pissed off. So much that it kinda ruined my finish and I hate the whole ruined orgasm shit. Since then I've checked every single damn video before playing it to make sure lol.

I can use ones without a reward rounds as a means of "self-foreplay"so long as I know up-front, but I definitely sit on the side of reward rounds are better.

One of the best pieces of advise I ever got was that In the grand scheme of things though, make the video that YOU wanna make, feedback is a great way to improve should you wanna make more in the future, but you should make the content you want, at the end of the day that's all that matters.

I rewatched my first video R.Y.G, the other day and was like wow....What is this shit lol!! Comparing it to my current is hilarious lol...Make it how you want it, share it if you want to, use feedback purely to improve. ;-)

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:04 am
by servufon
as you're asking, no, i don't care

so you have some context, note i am a very casual cock hero player, it's not a big thing to me in general; i have a massive backlog i haven't watched and only get to when i am caught up on other porn collecting (which hasn't been the case most of this year)

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:50 pm
by jackstock
Make it your own. You can do it the classic way or with a reward round, whichever you like.
I'd rather if you do it your own way imperfectly than do it someone else's way perfectly. It will come out more real and unique

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:49 pm
by ComboNo1
Alex69 wrote: For me, a reward round -or at least a contdown to a cum order- is essential. I play CH because I want to release, because it is time to fap and enjoy, and this is an elaborate way of doing so.

Believe me when I say that I avoid any CH that has no reward or release round. I hate it.
So there is one strong vote in favor of having a reward round. And you make a good point too.

As a player, I personally don't really care too much about having or not having a reward round at the end of a video.

As a creator though, I want to be mindful of people like Alex69. If some people aren't going to care, but other people REALLY care and want that reward round - well, then that's something I want to know about & might have to plan on doing. :-)

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:07 pm
by ComboNo1
zingg wrote: If you've made a softcore-only video (and HUGE thanks to you for that, by the way), don't switch to hardcore for the reward round.
You're welcome. :-D
zingg wrote: I'm also not a fan of reward rounds that for some reason drop the music. The best reward rounds just feel like an extension of the rest of the video, except you get to cum.
Those are good points, especially about dropping the music. I had considered doing that ... :lol: :whistle:
zingg wrote: If that's the sort of reward round you're going for, I'm all for it. if not, I'm probably going to just jump back to whatever part of the video I liked the best and take that as my reward.

In general, if a CH has long enough scenes (either one scene per round, or a small number on rotation), it's relatively easy to jump back to whichever scene was hottest. If that describes your CH, I wouldn't personally consider the reward round to be essential.
That's kind of how I feel about it too. I know I have played a video or two where it instructs you to go back and use any round you like as your reward. And I think the way I have edited my video, it would work too.

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:28 pm
by ComboNo1
Maskeraid wrote:I'm torn when it comes to reward rounds, to a degree.

I do prefer videos with reward rounds, it's kinda the whole point really. To me anyway. But you are right when you said that few are executed well. Especially in the ones that forego music in favour of dirty talk or some shit. Dirty talk is an area that is really touch and go for me, there's an extremely fine line between hot and trashy. I have often hit the reward round for a the game and hit a point where I'm just really not into what I'm seeing during the round and I'll just go back and replay a part earlier that I enjoyed or watch some regular porn.
Totally agree. I have played videos that are great, that I am really into and then the reward round turns me off or I lose interest. Maybe they pick a girl I don't find hot, use a scene I don't like, or whatever the reason. It's a bummer when it happens. Really takes you out of the mood after you've been having such a good time with the video up to that point.

(And I have ended up watching regular porn too :-D )
Maskeraid wrote: I do not mind too much If a video doesn't have one...but if that's the case, then I would definitely like to know upfront, prior to playing it. I forget which it was, but there was a 2 part video a while back. The first part came out and didn't have a reward round and said that you would have to wait for the second part to finish... fortunately both parts were out (I think) but I waited. Next day came and I was really itching to complete it.

Played through, loving hanging on the edge and trying not to pop through most of the video... hit the end... no reward round! I even think it had an ending that was like: "countdown, 30, 29. 28, 27, 26, 25......10, only joking, no reward for you..." kinda thing. I was super pissed off. So much that it kinda ruined my finish and I hate the whole ruined orgasm shit. Since then I've checked every single damn video before playing it to make sure lol.

I can use ones without a reward rounds as a means of "self-foreplay"so long as I know up-front, but I definitely sit on the side of reward rounds are better.
That is terrible! That is an awful thing to do. I would be pissed too.

In my current project I state up front, in the "instructions" part of the video that there is no reward round - which I agree you should at the very least do for the person watching it.
Maskeraid wrote: One of the best pieces of advise I ever got was that In the grand scheme of things though, make the video that YOU wanna make, feedback is a great way to improve should you wanna make more in the future, but you should make the content you want, at the end of the day that's all that matters.

I rewatched my first video R.Y.G, the other day and was like wow....What is this shit lol!! Comparing it to my current is hilarious lol...Make it how you want it, share it if you want to, use feedback purely to improve. ;-)
That is good advice, and I have had people on here tell me that same thing too. I believe in it, and I have made the video the way I want, etc. But I also feel like I am not just making this video for me, so I ask questions and ask for feedback.

The beta testers really helped me out and told me A LOT of good stuff too, so now I feel like I am trying to make a good a video as I can. I believe what I've got finished is good, and I'm open to doing what it takes to polish it and make it better. That's my goal at this point.

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:37 pm
by akds1337
Maskeraid wrote: Played through, loving hanging on the edge and trying not to pop through most of the video... hit the end... no reward round! I even think it had an ending that was like: "countdown, 30, 29. 28, 27, 26, 25......10, only joking, no reward for you..." kinda thing. I was super pissed off. So much that it kinda ruined my finish and I hate the whole ruined orgasm shit. Since then I've checked every single damn video before playing it to make sure lol.
Contrary to your feelings I'd actually like that (though only sometimes). Any chance you'd remember a part of the name or anything I can go off of to search for it?

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:48 pm
by blondie88
I play CH to cum. I want the thrill of lasting til the end, and then I WANT the last round to push me over the edge. It is the biggest kick for me to hold out for so long and then the last round is just so hot it is too much. That in a nutshell is what I play CH for.

So in answer to your Q, definitely a cum round, but please not a "cum whenever you like". I HATE THAT! It is the biggest cop out ever. I want the reward round to push me over the edge, but not with crazy fast beats - also boring - I want something hot, and a beat that keeps me on the edge until i can no longer take it. :-D

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:30 am
by zenetix
I think having a reward round is best (or at least an optional one). I prefer CH rounds to escalate in intensity and the reward round should reflect that.

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:33 am
by Noah
I like to be surprised because the hope of being allowed release makes it more exciting for me (whatever the end may be). You can also do it like in CH Audition 3 and add multiple endings. That worked surprisingly well.

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:38 am
by Alex69
Noah wrote:I like to be surprised because the hope of being allowed release makes it more exciting for me (whatever the end may be). You can also do it like in CH Audition 3 and add multiple endings. That worked surprisingly well.
That Audition 3 multiple choice ending was awesome indeed. Pretty awesome.
Maskeraid wrote: I rewatched my first video R.Y.G, the other day and was like wow....What is this shit lol!! Comparing it to my current is hilarious lol...Make it how you want it, share it if you want to, use feedback purely to improve. ;-)
Hey! That was one of the first HD Cock Hero I played, and I was amazed by it!
I don't know if right now it would be as amazed by it, but one of this days I'll try :blush:
zenetix wrote:I think having a reward round is best (or at least an optional one). I prefer CH rounds to escalate in intensity and the reward round should reflect that.
Exactly, it is the absolute CLIMAX. And the music and scenes have to reflect that CLIMAX state.
blondie88 wrote:I play CH to cum. I want the thrill of lasting til the end, and then I WANT the last round to push me over the edge. It is the biggest kick for me to hold out for so long and then the last round is just so hot it is too much. That in a nutshell is what I play CH for.
So in answer to your Q, definitely a cum round, but please not a "cum whenever you like". I HATE THAT! It is the biggest cop out ever. I want the reward round to push me over the edge, but not with crazy fast beats - also boring - I want something hot, and a beat that keeps me on the edge until i can no longer take it. :-D
Pretty much THIS.
ComboNo1 wrote:
Alex69 wrote: For me, a reward round -or at least a contdown to a cum order- is essential. I play CH because I want to release, because it is time to fap and enjoy, and this is an elaborate way of doing so.

Believe me when I say that I avoid any CH that has no reward or release round. I hate it.
So there is one strong vote in favor of having a reward round. And you make a good point too.

As a player, I personally don't really care too much about having or not having a reward round at the end of a video.

As a creator though, I want to be mindful of people like Alex69. If some people aren't going to care, but other people REALLY care and want that reward round - well, then that's something I want to know about & might have to plan on doing. :-)
Thanks for quoting and taking in consideration our points of view. But over all our opinions, you have to do what you think would be a great production. No matter what you do, some of us will like it and some others won't. But the best Cock Hero is that one that has the mark of its author. Personality.



Al.

Re: Reward Rounds - essential?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:25 pm
by zingg
blondie88 wrote:I play CH to cum. I want the thrill of lasting til the end, and then I WANT the last round to push me over the edge. It is the biggest kick for me to hold out for so long and then the last round is just so hot it is too much. That in a nutshell is what I play CH for.

So in answer to your Q, definitely a cum round, but please not a "cum whenever you like". I HATE THAT! It is the biggest cop out ever. I want the reward round to push me over the edge, but not with crazy fast beats - also boring - I want something hot, and a beat that keeps me on the edge until i can no longer take it. :-D
Definitely agree with everything here. I'm okay without a reward round, but if it's there, I want it to be like this.