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A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:13 pm
by cweinberg
I like many others love the teases here. I have been a long time lurker enjoying this site whenever I can and feel up to putting my self into the delightfully unfulfilling situation of being denied. I have a part of me that loves a certain type of tease but like many, have trouble completing it when it comes time for the big finish. NO NO NO... not the finish of cumming... no problem there. The finish of finishing off what I started. Swallowing that cum like I am told. Not that I am always looking for it... but when I am really caught up in it, I want to complete the tease so badly.
I have tried to make progress with this, down to going heels over head, and even that becomes a tough sell after that special moment of sweet release. I was looking through many of the posts and was wishing that someone as talented as Nikki or Lindsey would lend some encouragement, or that others might aid me in the location of some resources, audio or video that includes this seldom discussed kink around here, that follows in the footsteps of "Learning to Go Farther." It is going to take some more interactive and direct (commanding/reasoning) for me to get over that last hurdle and complete these teases the way I so want to get into them, or have it get into me...
Many may not care for these teases. Shemales, cum eating, mature, cbt, are all kinks that some do not care for, but if there are those out there that can help get some of us past some inhibitions on the big steps... maybe this site will be even more effective in fulfilling the hearts of the explorers in all of us?
Thanks
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:27 pm
by cumhardy
just eat it! mine tastes good i dunno about everyone else... I usually swallow mine even if im not asked to, just cuz I like it.
sorry...my reply was no help whatsoever... I used to be disgusted by it but got used to it and now enjoy it in a weird way :D
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:00 pm
by Jaberwocky
Most men experience the problem that after they cum, the arousal is gone, and with it the motivation to eat cum. But I know a thing you could try.
To start with:
Cum in a shotglass, and put it in the fridge. (prehaps add a second and third load)
Now comes the task:
Don't cum before you've eaten the frozen cum for the next month. With other words, you have to either wait for a month, or eat your frozen cum.
For an extra push:
Do some daily teasing tasks, like edge every morning when you wake up. But better would be if there would be one or two tasks with an increase of amount of strokes you have to do, like doing 25 very slow strokes at the beginning of the evening on the first day, 50 strokes on the second day, 75... (better use a second counter to prevent you for stroking too fast)
Result:
You will get more and more aroused while the teasing slowly increases, till the weight of your balls outweight your disgust towards eating cum.
Why the one month?
This will help you to get started. Knowing there is a way out of it, might help to start it.
In addition:
You can also consider that you are only allowed to eat the cum on every fifth day in the period of denial. So that you would know that if you won't eat it today, you have to wait at least five more days. Also knowing that the next five days, things will be more severe as you are more aroused, and the teasing will be tougher.
I hope this "one month of teasing and denail with a ticket out of it in your fridge" might help you with your problem.
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:44 pm
by Lindsey
Let's think about why you'd want o do certain things, like eating cum, for instance. In my eyes, it's pretty cut and dry and comes down to 3 reasons; 1) You want to please a girl, 2) You like the way it feels or makes you feel, and 3) You get rewarded in some way for doing it.
You also have curiosity working with you, but on the other side of things there's usually a certain amount of remorse that comes after doing something that feels 'wrong', or makes you feel dirty. I guess it goes without saying that sex with someone manipulative...ahem, I mean...resourceful will reinforce all the positive feelings above and pique your curiousity, as well as redirect any feelings of remorse. It changes from, "I can't believe I just did that" to "I can't believe she/he had enough influence over me to get me to do that".
But...You're craving the aspects of this dynamic that are hard to get without being in a one-on-one situation with another person. Some people, as illustrated above, will no doubt give you suggestions such as going out and paying a girl to fill that void so you can experience it. IMO, this is quite different from meeting a girl naturally and knowing that a dynamic exists between you because you both want it. I think the former situation can bring about other feelings of remorse by introducing a whole other side to the feelings that you're curious about...a side that doesn't necessarily have to be there.
My first suggestion would be to meet a girl that's genuinely interested in who you are, even if your dynamic is purely sexual. My second suggestion would be to supplement other sexual and non-sexual acts to create situations where you're rewarded, punished, or both for doing something in particular. I'm not sure that's a clear suggestion, but I can name some specific ideas if you're interested.
I don't think forcing yourself to do something you don't want to do is a good way of exploring. It seems like you're looking for people to suggest clever ways to do that. It's no different from a girl forcing you to do something you don't want to do. There's no allure in that. The allure is a girl making you want to do something that you wouldn't see yourself doing otherwise. This is a positive thing. I think you should either tie other positive things (sexual or non-sexual) to those acts, or find someone who will do that with you and for you without bringing remorse or other negative feelings into the situation in exchange for a taste of some positive ones you haven't had yet.
Hope that helps. In the interest of keeping my novel to a minimum, i'll refrain from getting into specifics before knowing what it is really that you're after...not just guessing at it. ;)
-L
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:50 pm
by Marke
I found a good way to overcome fear of cum was to go down on my partner to "finish her off" (viole expression) if I had been so lucky to cum inside her and was not wearing a condom.
The first time I did that with my wife she was so pleased with me. Sdaly that was a long time ago when we were trying for babies. Condoms ever since.
But cleaning up one's mess - just listen to Mistress Ashton if you get lucky with her bot teases on OD.
I also agree with Ashe, but then I would.
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:56 pm
by cumhardy
Perhaps you could try changing the taste. I heard that eating lots of fruit, drinking wheatgrass and pineapple juice etc etc... will make it sweeter also drinking more water will make it thinner.
I think just the fact that you are trying to change the taste will encourage you to swallow it because you would become curious to see if the flavour had changed
you could even get a mistress to encourage you to do this
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:04 pm
by goodboy
My "first time" (!!) was when I was handcuffed and blindfolded with an ex girlfriend... literally a do it or stay cuffed. I was so hard by the time I'd licked and sucked her foot satisfactorily that I volunteered to keep the cuffs on for the other foot!
But it is a very different thing on your own, I must admit

Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:14 am
by cweinberg
Thanks to all for the replies and suggestions... like I mentioned in my original post (and no thanks to those who say "just do it already" as it has been done in the past but I am looking for a more enjoyed experience in a way) I foresee the difference being in the form of the tease "Learning to Go Farther."
Lindsey, I feel that you have it on the mark. The downside is a matter of me being ready to play with these elements in my exploration however in honesty, my typical mate is much more refined in many ways and not likely to ever be someone who shares any interest in these things. Which I don't have a problem with. I am proud to have a more traditional standard on one side, but I know there is that young and personal side where I would like to experience some things before I move forward into that next phase of my life... in and out of the bedroom.
I am certain that with some one on one time I would likely have a more productive experience but anything in person has an element of unpleasantness and like you said, further conflicted feelings. What I had in mind in my time as a lurker, was that a few months back, when the tease of the month was made into an audio flash tease... something coaxing the listener into convincing him that he wants to carry out his desires this time. A sense of enjoyment as having completed a tease that might have pushed the limits a little but one that you enjoyed... but for people like I said, who may need a bit more than just text and pictures.
I have seen few and far between erotic hypnosis pieces dealing with such matter, but they are also somewhat price intensive with no guarantee of results, how it is produced, and how well it will ever work in convincing my will power to cede to my more raw desires from time to time.
The frozen then thawed is a oft appreciated concept, but no offense, I know that takes away from the point of learning to take that next step. That become more like taking that step from last time the next time you get up to it... Appreciated all the same.
Some of the few previous successes with this (not many but a few) involved the help of Brittany from Cumtrainer and a host of other female and a few male members on a that site which used to exist (not sure if it is still around) encouraging me via chats as how to jerk off, cum, then various forms of encouragement. Sadly with some moving and time passing I lost touch with that site....
Again, many thanks to all... please continue with any new ideas... I'm sure that I as well as others (lurker or upfront) will benefit from it in their approach of new experiences.
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:39 am
by quorr777
This tease might help.
It is complex to get the victim too involved to bottle out!
http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=701
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:17 am
by dr_cunning
there is a free file called "CurseCum" at warpmymind.com. it certainly makes one WANT to do it! Highly recommended.
the other one i know of is called "Swallow" by Isabella Valentine. it's very sexy. not free though.... but i've enjoyed it!

Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:03 pm
by Lindsey
cweinberg wrote:
Lindsey, I feel that you have it on the mark. The downside is a matter of me being ready to play with these elements in my exploration however in honesty, my typical mate is much more refined in many ways and not likely to ever be someone who shares any interest in these things. Which I don't have a problem with. I am proud to have a more traditional standard on one side, but I know there is that young and personal side where I would like to experience some things before I move forward into that next phase of my life... in and out of the bedroom.
See this post:
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&start=25
And if you want any of the suggestions I eluded to earlier, all you have to do is ask. ;)
-L
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:10 pm
by goodboy
cweinberg wrote:Thanks to all for the replies and suggestions...
....however in honesty, my typical mate is much more refined in many ways and not likely to ever be someone who shares any interest in these things. Which I don't have a problem with. I am proud to have a more traditional standard on one side, but I know there is that young and personal side where I would like to experience some things before I move forward into that next phase of my life... in and out of the bedroom.
.
"Typical
mate is much more refined,"
I am proud to have a more traditional standard
on one side, but I know there is that young and personal side where I would like to experience some things
before I move forward into that next phase of my life...
What is intended by these remarks.... I'm surprised nobody else has jumped on them from a great height.
I do have a high regard for the majority of posters in this forum but I think you've (maybe inadvertently) insulted all of us. Rather than breaking our toys how about growing up and doing what you obviously intend to do, find a "mate" and live happily ever after. I wish you luck and apologise to all if I've caused unrest.
GRR. …. LOL
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:30 am
by Timshel
I didn't jump on those words because I'm quite sure it isn't intended in that manner. I think what he meant is he tends to meet much more Vanilla women or women with mainstream sexual tastes, and not one to dive into this kind of activity. And that to settle down and have a family means he'll have a vanilla sex life he's fine with that.
I don't think he's saying that those of us who will be kinky in bed until then end aren't growing up, he just doesn't see his life heading in that direction..
Anyway the way I look at it, if you think you'd have more fun with the teases that tell you to eat your own cum if you did, then I'd look for a tease that allows you to leak pre-cum, hence still be horney and motivated... then consume that in order to "get your feet wet" and hopefully the baby steps will work...
Re: A search for the needed help and motivation...
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:54 pm
by Nikki
cweinberg wrote:
I have tried to make progress with this, down to going heels over head, and even that becomes a tough sell after that special moment of sweet release. I was looking through many of the posts and was wishing that someone as talented as Nikki or Lindsey would lend some encouragement, or that others might aid me in the location of some resources, audio or video that includes this seldom discussed kink around here, that follows in the footsteps of "Learning to Go Farther."
Thanks
I have some things that might help you with what you are seeking. I know that there are a lot of seemingly "forced" types of files out there that can be a bit intense for some. Most of these sessions are written at the request of the man who WANTS to be "forced".
I have been through this with My boy as he was curious and had urges such as you mention here. He finds the thought very erotic and has "Learned to go farther" quite nicely.
As I am not sure who would or would not be interested here so I will not bore others with a link... If you would drop me a note and I will send you some information ;)
[email protected]
Nikki