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On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:52 pm
by frankendude
Having gotten some *ahem* experience with many videos of the years, I've become aware of a type of musical sound that seems to be very good at making intense CH rounds. I'm not too versed in kinds of music or elements or qualities that music producers might talk about, but intense CH rounds for me come down to faster beats and musical style. Content is also important, but music seems to be the key ingredient that takes it to the next level. The kinds of music I find that really get me going during a round are the kinds with a lot of repetition in vocals and musical phrases. They also have a kind of "lusty" sound to the instrument and beat patterns. Some examples are in order:


CH Audition: Final Round
CH Max 2: Round 4
CH Girlfriends: Michaela Isuzi (sp) Round (Round 5?)
CH Evolution: Round 1
CH Max 3: Round 1, 2, 5


I think it's important to point out that very round can't be like that in order to preserve novelty and vary pacing (which also preserves novelty from round to and allows CH's to be winnable". It's also important to note that a round can be good without these musical qualities by focusing on other aspects of sexual experience such as beauty or sensuality.

Looking back at your own experience, what kinds of music seems effective at making an intense round for you?

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:09 am
by prawndiddy
I find that I prefer stuff that might find play on the radio. Some of the EDM/electronic stuff is too... diffuse, for lack of a better word. A strong beat with well defined blank space is best, for me.

Also, just as important if not moreso, is the beat indicator sound. It took me a while to realize, but this is actually important. Sadly, Mokkori's wooden "plink" sound is like a boner killer for me, which sucks because he and I line up well on music and content. The "clap" sound on, say, Hardcore 4 is somehow super stimulating. I can't even explain it. Other choices fall somewhere between those two.

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:11 am
by alchemi183
prawndiddy wrote:Also, just as important if not moreso, is the beat indicator sound. It took me a while to realize, but this is actually important. Sadly, Mokkori's wooden "plink" sound is like a boner killer for me, which sucks because he and I line up well on music and content. The "clap" sound on, say, Hardcore 4 is somehow super stimulating. I can't even explain it. Other choices fall somewhere between those two.
So true! I wish they all had some sort of stroke indicator sound. To me, it doesn't matter so much what sound is used as long as it is easily distinguishable from (but, of course, in rhythm with) the music. I like supermokkori's wooden block sound very much for that reason (easily distinguishable). I also like hiphopanonymous' Hardcore series very much. I just listened to Hardcore 4 though, and I wouldn't describe that sound as a clap--it's more of a drum sound, and therefore not always easily distinguishable from the regular drum sound in the music. Jupiter used a clap sound in his Heavenly Bodies and Acceleration Challenge videos, and that sound is definitely nice, and distinguishable.

Anyway, I just wanted to chime in and say I agree that having a stroke indicator sound is VERY important in making a good CH video.

Having said that, however, it really doesn't seem related to the topic frankendude is trying to talk about in this thread, so I apologize for my part in pulling the conversation away from what style of music helps enhance a CH round.

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:36 pm
by prawndiddy
alchemi183 wrote:I just listened to Hardcore 4 though, and I wouldn't describe that sound as a clap--it's more of a drum sound, and therefore not always easily distinguishable from the regular drum sound in the music. Jupiter used a clap sound in his Heavenly Bodies and Acceleration Challenge videos, and that sound is definitely nice, and distinguishable.
Ah, you're right. I think what I was thinking of was the last round there, and it's actually the song that has the clap sound in it. I think that's the same sound that the acceleration vids used, and that's exactly the sound I was thinking of.

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:46 am
by Tittyluvr1334
More sultry sounding music - melodic and repetitive. IF vocals, soft female vocals. Rap and dudes are a boner-killer. However I much prefer cock hero rounds when some or all of it contains the sound of the actress(es) - not just music.

For the beat meter sound - likening or imagining the sound made of hard fucking/slapping of bodies together is ideal.

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:18 am
by Nipps
I preffer no vocals at all, female vocals can be ok but male are just a turn off. I like fast paced edm for ch.

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:40 am
by supermokkori
Everyone will have different tastes in music, especially what one may consider "sexy" music. Furthermore, some video tease creators might not necessarily be trying to using "sexy music" in their CH-style videos but rather are looking for a beat, tying in some lyrics to a theme and so on. I personally think that's a bit of a mistake, but that's just me.

I completely agree with frankendude that the music used in CH-style videos is probably the most important element. Thankfully, bad music choices aren't that frequent to CH-style teases, at least for me. That said, I do prefer the music in Cock Hero videos to have:

- Female singers/voices over males ones. I forgot the Milovana user who stated this before, but having a female voice sing with sexy females being shown seems fitting - like as if the girls on-screen would be singing to you. :-D

- Good and different tempo during the song is something I enjoy. The song might start out slow, then get faster, then start slow again, might have a 4-measure break of silence... I like songs that has a good variety of tempo swings (well without getting too crazY). :yes: :look:

- I personally enjoy hearing sexy songs I've never heard before. Yes, almost anything from Rihanna is hot and probably could be used over and over again in Ch-style videos, but after awhile, "S&M" from Rihanna gets a little tiring. Also, a personal turnoff for me are top 40 hit songs that aren't really sexy. That's just me tho. :whistle:

Oh and prawndiddy, I've been experimenting on dropping the pitch and tone of my "woodblock" stroke beat sound - I think you'll enjoy the new stroke beat sound in some upcoming future projects I'm working on. :thumbsup:

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:09 am
by Maskeraid
I have quite a wide taste in music; from rock/metal to EDM/dnb to some orchestral/jazz/swing. The reason why I stick to the more dance/electronic genres is that primarily, they are much easier to time beats to. Drums in some rock songs have much more variation than EDM does and that makes for more complex editing. I also prefer the energy that dance music gives off much more uplifting than most rock.

A lot of the rock/metal that I like is quite aggressive, I can't imagine playing CH to Metallica, Trivium or Disturbed... but that's just me. Obviously there are much more sensual rock songs but like I said, I prefer the energy of dance. Maybe I could try some Steel Panther? Most of their songs are about fucking lol :-P

The video I am currently working on is going to have a kind of 'fetish' round which will involve some rock songs. Even then, the rock I'm using has been remixed to have a more dance style. It just works better, at least in my opinion. There are very few rock songs that excite me in that way. The only one that springs to mind is Closer by Nine Inch Nails, which is a great song to have some dirty, aggressive, scratches on your back and bite marks on your neck sex too... :w00t:

I do try to steer clear of male vocals, but it doesn't really bother me all that much. Round 2 in my current video has male vocals but they're not very frequent and are quite soft.

It's purely a matter of taste in the grand scheme of things, I forget which one it was but there was a CH video that had heavy dubstep/rap music involved and I really didn't care for it, even though I love dubstep. (I despise most rap/rnb/hip-hop)

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:44 pm
by Blank
I mean no offense, but I can't help but find quite ironic to say that male vocals are a turn off, then most rounds feature actual guys and dicks on screen.
Many Cock Hero rounds that I find good have male vocals. It doesn't matter to me that the vocals are male or female or that there aren't vocals at all, as long as the music is good. I don't play Cock Hero because I find female singers sexy. For me what is good with the concept of Cock Hero was to associate something which was not supposed to be sexy, music, with porn content. A good part of what is exciting with Cock Hero is when it makes me think, damn, I never would have thought that I could fap to this kind of song, but it went so good with the visuals, it did it. Only using songs which are supposed to be sexy in themselves would defeat the point of the concept of Cock Hero I think.
When it comes to Cock Hero I don't have a particular style of music I prefer, as I think it is more interesting when creators try to experiment with the widest range of styles possible, and when each round has is own distinct "personality". It can be dynamic or calm, upbeat or atmospheric depending of the type of content in the round.

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:07 pm
by book_guy
I don't particularly like EITHER male vocals OR images of male organs. I don't DISlike seeing male organs, especially not in the point-of-view angles since, generally, I can suspend disbelief enough to "feel" in my own dick what the visible dick might be feeling. (Although, by the way, it seems a LOT of people think the term "POV" includes angles showing what their kneecaps or elbows would see -- as if their eyes weren't in the middles of their foreheads but the middles of their limbs instead! -- so maybe the term "POV" is getting less and less strict lately). But I really don't want to see a guy whack off when there's a perfectly serviceable hot chick with hands and orifices, right there in the frame, though. So it kind of miffs me when, after a long and involved suck and fuck scene, she just sits there watching his hand do the final bit of work. WTF, she doesn't have digits and manual dexterity all of a sudden?

In other words, I agree, seeing male organs (dicks) isn't ideal, just like hearing male vocals (dicks) isn't ideal.

Re: On Cock Hero Music

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:59 pm
by Maskeraid
Blank wrote:I mean no offense, but I can't help but find quite ironic to say that male vocals are a turn off, then most rounds feature actual guys and dicks on screen.
Never really thought about it in that manner :lol: Generally, I don't mind a guy being in a scene but what I really dislike is when they're groaning or are just more audible than the woman is. Even more so if he actually talks. The guys in porn should be almost inaudible and I also wanna see their face as little as possible.
book_guy wrote:Although, by the way, it seems a LOT of people think the term "POV" includes angles showing what their kneecaps or elbows would see -- as if their eyes weren't in the middles of their foreheads but the middles of their limbs instead! -- so maybe the term "POV" is getting less and less strict lately


THIS!!! I do enjoy POV material over general porn but the vast majority of pov seems to involve mutants who have their eyes in their stomach or on their chest. I am fortunate enough to have an oculus rift and some of the VR porn is great. Except for a couple of videos where it swaps to the woman's perspective.. The perspective is great. It still has a ways to come but it is good.