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Hi!

I'm in an enforced chastity session with my keys held by Emlalock. I can't get out until enough people have voted for my session using this link, so first off please could I ask you all to help out?

[session finished, thanks all]

I've been doing teases while in chastity to keep myself desperate to cum and frustrated. In particular the Apocalypse series is incredibly intense and there is no way I'd ever be able to last beyond one or two mistresses without the held of the chastity device.

Most teases are very heavy on stroking and edging. I can get a little stimulation from "stroking" which is basically just tugging on my little cock cage but edging isn't possible.

Can anyone recommend teases that are more focussed on pain, humiliating tasks, bondage, fetishes with perhaps some but less of the stroking and edging?

In particular I'm looking for one tease that I'll do whenever I get released from my chastity. It'll be important not to have too much stroking and edging as I'll already basically be on the edge and ready to explode the moment I start it. I'd really like this tease to be one that lasts about an hour and at the end has a chance based permission to cum/ruin/stop.

Thanks everyone

I have to go somewhere on the weekend where I won't have a chance to play, but If I get enough votes to let me out early enough to do a tease before I have to leave, I will post a full report. If the tease doesn't give me permission to cum, I'll be leaving for the weekend without release.

You can give me tasks, rules, dares which I'll do in return for your vote over the next two days as well. I'll do everything within my limits and give a full report for every one of them.

Jash

So if enough people vote to let you out late ... you'll be wearing your chastity device over the weekend to? Hmmm, clever idea and simple, but I think having people vote on you getting out is asking for trouble, unless of course you want to be in chastity a long time LOL.

When you are in chastity I think prostate massage/milking is a very effective 'substitute' for edging. It's very intense and very difficult to have an orgasm.

Thanks Ms Julie

That's exactly the idea. This session will end up around 10 days and had a break point yesterday where I did a tease but was only permitted a ruined orgasm before being locked back up for the second part of the session.

There is a maximum time limit on the session, but it still won't let me out until I've convinced 50 strangers that I deserve to be let out and every one of them gets the chance to increase my time by another hour. Assuming my start time was 2 days (I don't know) then it could end up being four days. The timer on my session is disabled to I have no idea when I'll be out. If the session hasn't ended before I have to leave on Saturday then I could take the keybox with me and I'll be able to remove the device when it does end but still won't have any chance to do anything with it until Tuesday.

Jash

All requirement links met now thanks!


Thanks!
Jash

Hi Ms Julie, who, with your permission I may henceforth occasionally refer to as "Diabolical Mistress Genius of the Highest Order" for reasons that will quickly become apparent.

Thought you'd be interested to know, I got out of the CB today having reached the session's maximum time. As it turns out, the link requirements were very much met, attracting more than 100, almost all of whom just couldn't stop themselves from adding an hour to my predicament. Of course after a point that stops having any effect because the session can never go beyond the maximum time as long as the requirement links are met.

I had a few hours spare as I'd made up some time by packing up, loading and fuelling the car yesterday, sorting out everything in the house, even laying out my clothes. Oh, er and I may or may not have used a proxy server to knock the last couple of hours off my time with my friend link on a different computer. Needs must.

My plan as described earlier in this thread was that I would not immediately just start slapping the salami the moment I was released. I wanted to savour the feeling and try and build up to what I anticipated could possibly become one of the best orgasms I have ever had, what with having been a chronic bishop basher since puberty. The sexual equivalent of someone who continually blows their wad at MacDonalds several times a day instead of saving up and indulging in a spectacularly tender dish of pulled pork in a rich cream sauce at a gourmet restaurant every couple of weeks.

I miraculously managed not to immediately go at it and instead, following a quick wash-up which itself was taking me to the edge of insanity, I embarked on a tease as I'd promised myself I would do to earn my climax on release from the CB.

The tease I ended up with was this one:

http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showf ... p?id=25661

I chose it because I am particularly unskilled at edging. You might recall I failed miserably at my "mid term" tease challenge a few days ago, which stopped prematurely with an orgasm that I did at least have the willpower to ruin. This tease, stated as aimed at the inexperienced seemed more my level. The promise made several times through the tease, of cumming at the end was incredibly exciting and really gave me the strength to try my hardest to get to those edges and stop in time.

The tease I had chosen was called "O Control (Level 1)". You might be starting to get an idea of the direction we're headed now.

I got through the tease. It took everything I had, it really did. It was so very close right at that very last unexpectedly and infuriatingly long two minute edge, and my heart, amongst other things, leapt as the final page turned to give me my permission. More ready, desperate even, for my release than I have ever been. Honestly, I used to polish the rocket just because I was bored I don't think I've ever been in a situation where I absolutely, positively could not even entertain the possibility that I wouldn't get to dish out the gentleman relish within the next 30 seconds.

I kind of thought that there may have been a chance I'd be ordered to ruin the orgasm. That fits with the promise of getting to cum but with an evil twist. I was dreading it if that turned out to be the case, I was so impossibly in need of release, the feel of a full orgasm. And this would not be just an "everyday" orgasm but the one I'd dedicated my ten days to earning. I was ready. More than ready, I needed it, I had to have it. I was begging my computer screen under my breath for a full orgasm, but in my mind I'd grudgingly prepared myself to be thankful even for the chance of a ruined orgasm.

Prepared for what I actually saw on that final page, I was not. I believe my heart stopped momentarily. You, m'lady, are a Diabolical Mistress Genius of the Highest Order. I tip my hat off to you. And I didn't need any hands to do it either.

It wasn't until I looked at the author profile trying to understand what kind of sadistic mind could do this to me (and what other teases of said mind I could look forward to later), that I saw this thread in the posting list and it twigged that it was you.

Now I know I have you to thank for my, what did you call it? Angry Cock. Yes. It's angry. Pretty damned confused too if you ask me.

This tale of inadequate rifle cleaning doesn't stop there. Oh, no. As you know, my orders are now that I cannot cum until I wait at least 24 hours and do the tease again and go to part 2. I even managed to stop myself from peeking at what lay ahead in part 2, and closed the tease. Not sure I understand my own thinking there, maybe I'm finally really trying to fulfill my desire to feel controlled.

I still had some time left and things I had to get from the shops before I go, and I know there's a real possibility I'll accidentally take it over the edge on my second go at the tease next week, so I wanted to stop in its tracks any possibility that I won't be prepared for the punishment attracted in case of failure to stop at the edge.

I decided to try out said punishment in advance by walking the shops with my balls wrapped in elastic bands. I've had balls tied during teases before, sometimes more than 30 minutes. It's uncomfortable, painful even, but I've never had a problem with it. Easy.

My first mistake, I wore boxers.

It turns out that ball tying has a very different effect when walking any appreciable distance. The balls are forced away from the old chap and in between the thighs, where they receive a non-stop sensual massage.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess that you knew that, right? I should have been wearing my erection-concealing tight briefs.

There must have been some sort of hot girl convention going on in my neighbourhood today. I kid you not, there have not ever been so many beautiful women around here. Why'd they pick today to parade around?

What should have taken 30 minutes to get to the shop and back easily took 60 because I had to stop in a shop doorway or something every 2 minutes and pretend to look at the merchandise while the angry cyclops got a chance to calm back down to socially acceptable levels. That plan backfired spectacularly when I got to the lingerie shop.

I so very nearly stopped and turned back. But I really did need stuff from the store, and I was enjoying the stimulation that I would not be permitted otherwise.

I pressed on.

Things took a turn for the worse at the store. I can only imagine that was where the hot girl convention was being held.

I'd barely got past the melon section when I was stopped in my tracks by what appeared to be three sets of perfectly tanned legs with barely a skirt to share between them and breasts that almost got priced up by a nearby clerk.

In an attempt to defeat my crotch zombie with mind-over-matter I began filling my mind with unsexy thoughts, but it turns out at that point even Janet Reno giving Rupert Murdoch a blow job only served to heighten my arousal.

I pressed on.

Dried food aisle, I got flanked on both sides by two women with the most incredible cleavage. I had nowhere to look but down.

Dammit, sexy feet in sandles. I instinctively swung round and damn near cleared off the whole noodle shelf.

High heel boots. Crap.

I retreated.

I count myself lucky I wasn't stopped by store security for trying to smuggle out cucumbers.

I'm heading out the door in ten minutes, having had no release whatsoever, and with my strict instructions not to touch my tentpole until I can do the tease again which won't be until next week now. I am in fact going camping, and I'm afraid my morning condition will outreach the actual tentpole and bring the structure crashing down on the other startled and justifiably frightened occupants.

I'll let you know how part 2 goes next week, assuming I don't get arrested for posession of a poorly-concealed loaded weapon over the weekend.

Thanks, I think!

Jash

ps. this post got a lot longer than I intended, and I'm actually very late now but I had to have some sort of outlet for my frustration and frankly anything that serves to minimize my exposure to polite society right now is probably a good thing.

LOL! That was great. Very enjoyable read. Your creative metaphors are hilarious. I'm so glad you obeyed and denied yourself. It's so much more delicious that way isn't it? It makes me very happy.

I really need to think up a stronger punishment though, although I'm pretty sure you didn't have the elastics on tight enough. You should have been in quite a lot of pain. Keep that in mind should you fail. Lots of pain; THEN go for a walk.

Didn't I warn you that people would vote to extend your time LOL. It's just a shame there is a limit in place. People's wishes really should have been honored with no limit.

Have fun tonight and you will get to cum if you make it. But push yourself very hard. I'm hoping you accidentally experience a TRUE ruined orgasm

Glad you enjoyed it, Ms Julie. I very much enjoyed writing it, and describing everything just made my frustration even stronger.

I look forward to any revised punishment you could come up with in case of future accidents. Please bear in mind though that my (inadvertently self imposed) shopping trip yesterday was already right on the edge of hitting my public limit.

As for keeping the CB on this weekend, my particular activities are completely unsuited to wearing a CB, so it wasn't really an option. The slight possibility that I wouldn't get out if the requirement links weren't met was exciting though.

It won't be tonight that I get to do the tease unfortunately. More likely Monday or Tuesday.

One other thing, one of the reasons I began experimenting with the CB was to try and improve mine and my wife's sex life. You can well imagine the effect that regular oninism has on that. I've used it on business trips and such, and it's been successful on my return. She's been away for a week and a bit, but is back next week. I hope I can do the tease before she gets back because my intentions as they are, I won't be stopping her if she's in the mood.

If it's OK with you, if I do the tease again before my wife is back I'm going to assume an order to disgregard any permission that Instructor Melanie might give to come or ruin, and replace it with a complete STOP.

Much as I know that'll practically kill me, I can't deny my wife the pleasure of helping to tame this angry cyclops.

I'll get back to my weekend now. I've had to go out and buy a speedo to wear under my regular swimming shorts because, well, you know.

Jash

Yes definitely. Your first duty is to your wife's pleasure. So if you do the tease you must NOT CUM. Only your wife should be able to give you that.

Thank you Ms Julie.

I've been thinking up intricate scenarios whereby I could justify to myself that it would be OK for me to orgasm by myself if my wife and I are not going to have sex in the next few days, say if she's away or has her monthly visitor.

That's probably a load of rubbish.

I'm going to commit publicly here and now to you and anyone else watching to a trial period of three months during which:

1. I will discuss with my wife when she is back, and make her aware of my commitment and the reasons for it
2. I will not orgasm without her explicit permission under any circumstances. All orders to the contrary from any other source are automatically invalid.
3. I will occasionally partake of teases to ensure that I am optimally horny and ready for when she decides to make use of my equipment.
4. In case of accidents I will ruin to the best of my ability.

If you're willing, Ms Julie, I'd like a little advice on that last one as I don't think I'm doing it properly. I always thought that to ruin just meant hands off, but that doesn't sound as you describe in the tease?

Now I'm terrified, but I'm quite sure this is a positive step in my relationship with my wife.

Thanks
Jash

Does your wife know about your chastity device? I have no experience how to break the news of a kink like this to one's partner, or get them onside so they like the idea of it, however my instinct says the best way to go about it would be to associate your chastity with her extra pampering. When you are in chastity, you pamper her a lot. When you are out, you don't pamper her at all. It's important to remove pampering when you are out (in fact if you want to have a stronger effect you could be mildly unpleasant) She should quickly come to associate pampering only with you in chastity and start to desire for you to be in chastity and enjoy the idea of it in general Just my B.F Skinner conditioning 101 advice

If you're willing, Ms Julie, I'd like a little advice on that last one as I don't think I'm doing it properly. I always thought that to ruin just meant hands off, but that doesn't sound as you describe in the tease?

Just letting go at the last second is not a ruined orgasm. You still have an orgasm and often a pretty 'good' one. It still drains your desire significantly. A 'true' ruined orgasm is when there is no Kegel muscle contractions. The cum literally just dribbles out of you in a flow and you feel almost no relief whatsoever and remain extremely horny. Having a true ruined orgasm is very difficult. It takes a lot of practice. Men consciously and unconsciously resist it. Mostly it happens only when they are 'tricked' into it. It's very unreliable so I would suggest learning to control yourself and not have any orgasm at all instead.

If you want to achieve the same effect as a ruined orgasm you can drain yourself with a prostate massage. Once you train your body to relax you can get your cum to flow out of you in exactly the same manner as a ruined orgasm. With practice this is a very reliable technique.

Ms. Julie wrote:Does your wife know about your chastity device? I have no experience how to break the news of a kink like this to one's partner

My wife is not aware of any of my kinks.

She is my first and only long term relationship. Anything before that could at best be described as casual regular. My kinky side has always been an intensely personal and private matter to me, to the extent even that this is literally the first time I've discussed it with anyone at all, and that's only possible due to the anonymous nature of the medium.

In our early days (we've been together nearly ten years) we did experiment with vanilla kinks. The kind of stuff that's fair game on a sitcom like tied up with scarves etc, and in fact even a small degree of orgasm control. It was actually her that initiated most of it as I recall.

That all sort of fizzled out, and I took from that that she wasn't really interested so I never brought it up again and remained guarded on my "other side".

I'm now starting to suspect that what actually happened was that in our experimental kinky sex, the fear of revealing that side of myself was all too evident in my behaviour during our sessions and likely misinterpreted as non-interest or even active dislike of said activities, causing her to pull away from it for fear of scaring me off.

Since then, it's become increasingly clear to me that we can never have a truly close and intimate life-long relationship until we get all of this out in the open, work out where our interests coincide and either explore our unshared tastes or at least accept and even encourage those which are destined to remain solo.

For all I know, she might be kinkier than me (doesn't seem likely though).

So, I'm starting small with the orgasm denial one, not least because that is the one that will have the most immediate effect on our actual lovemaking both in terms of frequency and quality.

I plan to gradually extend things from there. Next up would be the CB, fitting nicely with orgasm denial, but it would be some months I'm sure.

While we're on the CB, my view is that done right, it should not be necessary. I guess I got it as a tool to experiment with the concept of orgasm denial in private, since I would and could never have just decided not masturbate whenever I felt like it without some assistance. The end game is more surely that of my own will I would simply never orgasm without her.

However, even when that's the case, the CB itself is an extraordinarly powerful turn-on for me. It is a symbol, and constant reminder of your commitment. It's one thing knowing that you would not orgasm unless permitted, but knowing you could not even if you wanted to is an amazing experience. I have noticed that despite still not having had any release since getting out of the CB, I am less frequently feeling aroused without it.

I would likely introduce it to her primarily as a fetish in its own right rather than a way to ensure I am not breaking my promise as I wouldn't want to devalue the sincerity of my commitment to her. I'd anticipate we'd use it not continually, but for instance like these two weeks she's been away, she'd take the key with her. I'm hard again immediately at the thought of it.

Anyway, thanks for listening. Sorry to use you as some sort of kinky counsellor.

Thanks for the advice on ruined orgasms. I've no idea how to go about preventing kegal muscle contractions, but would it possibly have something to do with forcing yourself to pull back on whatever that muscle is that enables a gentleman to raise his old chap? I'm not going to go and deliberately start inducing them for practice, but if it comes up I'll see what I can do!

Jash

That sounds like a good plan. Do denial with her without any toys first. Pamper her with affection as a reward. Learn how to do a real massage rather than just an amateur back rub (i.e. watch videos). She'll enjoy that. Especially her feet. When you are being denied, tell her a lot how much she turns you on (massaging her feet and so on).

As for not using Kegel muscles, do my tease. http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showf ... p?id=25754

Ms Julie, had a quick browse through the No Twitch one, and something just occurred to me.

I'm almost certain that in my early days, probably around 14-15, that's exactly how it used to happen. I'd feel this continually deepening sense of sinking further and further into another world, and feel the pressure building more and more until it just exploded of its own accord.

That was maybe only a year or less until it started to change, probably because I became more impatient to experience my orgasm.

I have never again had that experience, and I think I've been subconsiously looking for it agin.

Now I'm really excited to finally get on the road to regaining that. I know the capability exists somewhere deep down, it's just a case of having the discipline to always remember that this is something that I truly want, that I never again want to settle for the substandard "orgasms" (I'm not even sure they qualify as that any more) that I've been subjecting myself to during my adult life.

Thank You again for all you help with this, I will keep you posted on my progress. Next stop part 2 of Level 1 tease. I'll be getting some stronger elastic bands ready.

Jash

Now I'm really excited to finally get on the road to regaining that. I know the capability exists somewhere deep down, it's just a case of having the discipline to always remember that this is something that I truly want, that I never again want to settle for the substandard "orgasms" (I'm not even sure they qualify as that any more) that I've been subjecting myself to during my adult life.

It does. You can regain this.

I'll be getting some stronger elastic bands ready.

Good! Don't fail.

I have disappointing news Ms Julie,

Firstly, my arousal levels were dropping off after not having touched myself since Friday I think it was. The weekend was a rollercoaster ride of hastily finding creative ways to hide spontaneous trouser activity, but yesterday and particularly today that horniness has just dropped off to more or less where it usually is if I haven't had an orgasm in a day or so. The frustration of not being able to even touch was still there, but in itself wasn't enough to keep me going.

I really desperately wanted to be ready for my wife's return tomorrow, to give her the pleasure of doing as she saw fit with my predicament, and it wouldn't have been right if I was just at a normal level. She deserves more.

So, I tried the Level 1 tease again, and I was really trying to keep my Kegal muscles relaxed. It took a bit of work, and I had to keep reminding myself not to tense them every time I caught myself doing it, but I was making progress. I was really starting to feel that same sensation of a building orgasm that I only just remember from my youth.

As you know I'm not good at edging in the first place, and probably combined with the unfamiliar nature of the edges I was reaching, about half way through the first part of the tease (I think it was just before it went to 30/15 cycle) I just lost control of it.

I managed hands-off, but was unable to prevent my "twitching" so I clearly that doesn't qualify as a TRUE ruined orgasm.

The shame and disappointment doesn't end there either. You were clearly very right about not using strong enough elastic bands last time.

The new ones I got are the thick kind that you used to see holding bundles of mail together before such things went out of fashion. They're pretty strong.

Problem is, one twist (ie doubled) was not strong enough, but two twists was excruciating. I managed to get all three bands on, all three twisted twice.

I sat the required 5 minutes before going for my 30 minute walk, and the pain just got stronger and stronger with no sign of it settling to a constant level. It felt like they were on fire. When I tried to move, they pinched and pulled. Of all my fetishes, CBT is really not one of them. I enjoy it as a very light addition to a scene or a tease occasionally but I've never experienced anything like this.

I am humbly, unreservedly ashamed to say that I took them off. That in itself took 10 minutes and I kept catching my balls with my fingernails and at one point managed to snap the band onto one of my balls. I am incredibly disappointed with myself on all levels. Not only have I failed to keep my orgasm waiting for my wife's return tomorrow, but I didn't have the guts to immediately suffer the consequences.

I know that this punishment is required in order to condition myself to where I want - need to be.

I WILL do the punishment before work tomorrow. I will just force myself to not think about it and go ahead and do it. I'm really dreading it and wishing so much I'd just gone ahead with it since now I'll have to go through the five minute wait and removing the bands again which I've already done once.

So very, very humbly wishing I had better news, and again thanking you Ms Julie for the patience and incredibly good advice to help me,
Jash