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Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:43 pm
by book_guy
I really loved this Cock Hero. It may be my personal favorite of all time! I don't know, there are so many, it's hard to decide. :w00t: But I know it's ONE OF my top ten or six or so, definitely. I give it TOP MARKS!

I might as well chime in on some of the comments that are going on in this thread.

1. Boss Fight.

What? This isn't a Boss Fight video. Why did you call this "Boss Fight"? To me, a Boss Fight is when the girl is a secretary or client of a business, she talks to the camera as though it were recording the point of view of her "boss", and they get in a "fight" during which she instructs him somehow to jack off, or fuck her, or not jack off, or whatever. Here, there's no "Boss" and there's no "Fight" so why did you call it "Boss Fight"? I don't get it. Point-of-View isn't Boss Fight. Is it? ... meh ... shows what I know ...

2. The anime character.

I'm fine with that. No big whoop either way. Her funny faces were fun for me, but wouldn't it be cool if there were an image of a real (or, at least, a very real-looking) hot chick there instead? Stroking her tits every now and then ... hmm? Sounds good ...

3. The voice-to-text.

This technology ALMOST works for me. If you take a little bit more care with the way that you type the text into the reader, you could probably get a much more realistic set of pauses. The automated voice sometimes doesn't understand a colloquial expression, so it needs some extra punctuation to make it stop at the right places. For an example that I made up, "I don't want you to cum just yet" needs to be typed in as "I don't want you to cum. Just. Yet." because otherwise the automated voice will say it as "I don't want you to cum just. Yet." which ruins the effect. Experiment with commas and semicolons and so on, you'll get the pauses and emphases where you want them.

As far as hearing a hottie encouraging me, the more the better! You can probably find voice-overs that say almost everything that you would need, from some porn vid somewhere. I bet it would be very hot to use an erotic-hypnotist's voice for counting, even for beating strokes ("one, two, one two"). I know that Isabella Valentine says the numbers from ten to one, out loud; if you find her "Jackpot" series you can cut the numbers out and use them out of order for any purpose. I realize this would be a lot of work, and maybe that's why voice-to-text is a better solution. But the real voice might be even hotter?

4. The ending

Boy the last round is a disappointment. If I remember correctly, nearly every one of your videos has a "finish" round that I don't like. Isn't that funny, I really like the main portion of all your vids, and I really hate the finishing portion of all your vids. Either, we have different preferences in sexuality and finishing, or (more likely) you aren't really concentrating on creating a finishing experience. I'd suggest you try that idea out, making something that's just so sexually entrancing that it causes the finish for a lot of people. Maybe make four finishing rounds to append to your four (is that the right number?) of previous videos?

Thanks again! Best CH (except the finish) in recent memory! Loved it!

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:06 pm
by brewster
book_guy wrote:Why did you call this "Boss Fight"?
Because I felt it was obvious that the "boss fights" were the ones that challenge you to cum by having the only hardcore scenes in the video. - I don't know about you, but I haven't been able to get off to softcore stuff since I was 13 years old.

I also didn't use a single actress as the "boss" because some people would either hate her, or like her, thus alienating a lot of the players. And also because I'm not really a fan of any particular porn stars.
book_guy wrote:The automated voice sometimes doesn't understand a colloquial expression, so it needs some extra punctuation to make it stop at the right places.
Trust me, I replaced words that sounded funny, and used a lot of punctuation to get her to sound the way I wanted. Her cadence was naturally due to the way the voice is programmed.

I have an idea for the next Boss Fight (if I ever do decide to make one months from now, or if anyone else decides to make one) : Use the familiar avatar/narrator image and voice I used in this one ALSO use a second "dueling" one that pops up on the right of the screen - another that would have a different image, and use a real female voice. The old anime narrator on the left could be the "good girl" and encourage you to not cum, and the new one could be the bad girl, trying to get you to cum.
book_guy wrote:Boy the last round is a disappointment.
I'm sorry you felt that way, I did what I thought would be an awesome 6 minute cumround. If I could change anything about it: I'd change the pace of the beats to be faster. I edited the song in Audacity to change the BPM from 100% to 130%, but I probably should of went like 150%. Beats are everything. IMO they are what makes a cock hero challenging, and what determines if it was good or not - the content is secondary.

Overall - thank you so much for your feedback! I'm glad you liked it!

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:21 pm
by brewster
Erwoul wrote: Also, she didn't talk enough !
There were parts were i was like, she should be saying something right now like, Don't you dare cum yet !
During the hard / fast parts especially
I wanted to add more flavor to it by having her say more, but at the same time I was very aware of the players that would either hate her, or be on the fence about her. So I opted to have nearly the bare minimum and only tell the player things that were essential - albeit adding like 3 or 4 moments of color commentary with shit like "I'm just as horny as you are and need to cum!"

Thanks for the long feedback! It's really satisfying knowing that what I made is well received.

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:56 am
by Venus
I watched this episode and you did a great job.
The beat meter and this beat change indicator arrow works fine. My favorite round is round 7, there you got a really nice build up. Especially near the end of the round where it goes from fast to the fast beat with the extra stroke, so wicked!

I think the TTS works good enough. It sounds very artificial, but I got used to it after a while. I think if you had used an artificial character it would have worked better. Of course then sentences like "I get wet" won't work anymore.

The idea of the moans is good but I didn't like the implementation. If the video and sound don't match at all it's annoying. I think using a static picture while long moaning passages would work better, so the stroker can use his/her imagination and you don't have to decide whether to focus on the video or the sound.
Shorter moans like you did at 17:35 work much better in my opinion.

I think I can learn a lot from your video and the feedback in this thread because I'm working on something similar (What a coincidence :lol: ). I also want to add moans and whispers. Some time ago I decided to do what book_guy suggested:
book_guy wrote:[...] I know that Isabella Valentine says the numbers from ten to one, out loud; if you find her "Jackpot" series you can cut the numbers out and use them out of order for any purpose. I realize this would be a lot of work, and maybe that's why voice-to-text is a better solution. But the real voice might be even hotter?
Isabella has a great sexy voice and she says a lot sexy stuff which could be used for this purpose. As book_guy mentioned it's a hell lot of work, but I think in the end it's worth it.

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:14 am
by desertfox
This was really good! I will hang onto this one for a while as other's have said! I have a lowly 4 or so rounds done for mine that I've been doing on and off for a year (lol, it'll be done in a century) and one of the songs was the same version of motorcycle as the rush comes that you picked, so clearly i'm in agreement with the music choice. Trance just works so well for me with the cock hero thing.

So i'm mostly in agreement with the feedback given. I liked the falling arrow a lot since my eyes were usually up on the women rather than the beat meter so it was a nice subtle way to let you know a beat change is coming.

I am mostly positive on the text to speech thing, if it is being read aloud to you that is less distracting from getting in the zone of the women than having to break out and read text. The monotone delivery is what is tricky, but by the mid/end it was just fine.

Same advice as given, if you could get a real woman to narrate obviously that is pretty cosmic, but going with a robot theme of a host of some sort and working a touch on the pauses could be areas to make it flow better. Usually the tricky ones were multi adjective statements (which i forget off the top of my head) that left the voice pausing awkwardly when it was clearly supposed to be a blast of descriptions to pump you up. Overall I think I like it over text instruction though, just have to decide to get into it and not let it bother you and it does well for what is meant to.

I really liked the moaning in the boobs round, but will agree with what was said above, it was better towards the beginning but a bit distracting as the sounds were much more hardcore than what was going on in the scene. Still it was a really awesome layered effect, I think it would be stronger to have the moaning hit periodically at key points rather than a ramping up of hardcore sounds. Either way that was a really cool round and it was the moaning that made it stand out, really nice!

For the final round it didn't quite work for me, like someone said it sort of jumped up on me quick and was over before I could finish so had to skip back a bit after credits for the ending.

Either way this was a really, really awesome and well done job! Glad to have played it and will checking it out again and again!

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:28 am
by brewster
desertfox wrote:For the final round it didn't quite work for me, like someone said it sort of jumped up on me quick and was over before I could finish so had to skip back a bit after credits for the ending.
I just now realized that I should of put in a "get ready to cum soon" type of announcement by the narrator, and put in a countdown clock. But I figured the combination of dirty talk and moaning during the final clips with anal in them were enough.

Noted for next time + thanks for the feedback!

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:19 am
by tilttilt
great work!

who is she @ 36 min?

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:42 am
by brewster
tilttilt wrote:who is she @ 36 min?
the first "story" in the final cumround is this file:

TayTO-Passion-HD.2013-08-14.Amy.Fair-Hot.And.Cold-1080p

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:24 pm
by doubletee
Excellent video! Thanks for the time and effort you had to put in making it. I haven't been able to finish it yet, but I don't get tired of trying. ;-)

What is the Ashley Fires clip at 12:52?

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:45 pm
by johnnyquid
I hate to be always 'that guy', but.. is it gonna be uploaded on the streaming site? All these reports make me quite curious!

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:44 pm
by brewster
doubletee wrote:What is the Ashley Fires clip at 12:52?
ktr.num.13.02.09.ashley.fires.dont.tell.anyone

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:54 pm
by Flogger
Can't 'member if I commented or not, so ...

Some very good editing; nice to have more than a 'one-beat flash' of a scene before it changes so you can get into the mood of the piece.

Voice eventually got zoned out: was ok, but neither here nor there but would put it on par with good text instructions;

Bosses: would have liked a one on one type scenario so 5 minutes of just one doing her damnedest to make you fail but the concept is good.

Agree the reward at the end had come and gone before I did.

Loved the ending - very clever and funny!

Would have liked more scenes like the Ashley Fires bit because that's pure Milo.

Liked the downward arrow: nice take on the beat meter.

That's it off the top of my head.

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:30 pm
by book_guy
brewster wrote:
book_guy wrote:Why did you call this "Boss Fight"?
Because I felt it was obvious that the "boss fights" were the ones that challenge you to cum by having the only hardcore scenes in the video. - I don't know about you, but I haven't been able to get off to softcore stuff since I was 13 years old.

I also didn't use a single actress as the "boss" because some people would either hate her, or like her, thus alienating a lot of the players. And also because I'm not really a fan of any particular porn stars.
I understand why you USED the scenes that you did. I congratulate you on good scene choice. You have defended the scene choice in this statement of yours.

Nevertheless, because the scenes bear no relation to the typical boss fight of pornography, as the words are typically used, I still don't understand why you called it "Boss Fight." Why not call it "Hispanics Only" or "Blacks with Tiny Weewees have Sex with Giant Potatoes"? That would be equivalently accurate.

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:02 am
by hedgehog
"Boss" as a "videogame boss" after regular rounds, am I right?
It does not means "typical boss from femdom teases", isn't it?

Sorry for mistakes, I speak English so bad.

Re: Cock Hero Boss FIGHT !!! (Release)

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:16 pm
by rhard49
Will this be on the streaming site? :please: