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Is it just me?

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:54 pm
by Johnmaster
Is it just me or do other people find some of the content on this website "disturbing".

John

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:31 am
by 1885
Johnmaster wrote:Is it just me or do other people find some of the content on this website "disturbing".
Umm... Can you be more specific?

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:32 am
by dubble
Specifically....? I know for me there are some things/teases here that hold no interest & I do not understand (gay, trans, bi, cuckold, needles, burning, cutting, showers...), but I do not find them "disturbing". Each of us has things that hold interest & excite us as well as having opposite effects. Just like some people might enjoy bondage, for example, while others find that "disturbing". It's all relative, isn't it? As long as it is not purposely harmful to someone else or doesn't affect you, it shouldn't be a big deal. It's called acceptance in others. Besides, there's not a lot you can do about it. IMHO anyway.

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:25 am
by Johnmaster
dubble wrote:Specifically....? I know for me there are some things/teases here that hold no interest & I do not understand (gay, trans, bi, cuckold, needles, burning, cutting, showers...), but I do not find them "disturbing". Each of us has things that hold interest & excite us as well as having opposite effects. Just like some people might enjoy bondage, for example, while others find that "disturbing". It's all relative, isn't it? As long as it is not purposely harmful to someone else or doesn't affect you, it shouldn't be a big deal. It's called acceptance in others. Besides, there's not a lot you can do about it. IMHO anyway.
True say. But some of it just does go beyond my personal understanding.. I think it's unhealthy for people to go too deeply into some of these things or too far with them. Yeah ok, it's your life but really... =/. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way.

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:47 am
by SexualChoc
Simple answer: Yes
in fact I did a entire forum post ranting against something I felt was 'wrong"
I have learned that lot's of people have different kinks and sometimes those kinks seem "odd" or "wrong" to others
but here at Milovana we embrace everyone..

Just don't read/ look at tease you don't like!!

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:57 am
by Johnmaster
SexualChoc wrote:Simple answer: Yes
in fact I did a entire forum post ranting against something I felt was 'wrong"
I have learned that lot's of people have different kinks and sometimes those kinks seem "odd" or "wrong" to others
but here at Milovana we embrace everyone..

Just don't read/ look at tease you don't like!!
It is just the taking of thing to an extreme to an extent where i feel it is unhealthy mentally for people to do so. Personally I have no fantasies which I feel i need to lead a satisfying sex life.

Logic is what i ask people to use rather than emotions when trying to engage in things.

A kink, I believe, comes out of curiosity at first, however sex is a drug and people should know that it can have a powerful effect on you. I believe that no one is actually Dominant or submissive, but just in a temporary state in such a way, prolonging it is accepting perhaps some subconscious problem inside yourself. Centering therefore your whole lifestyle around something like this I find could be detrimental to many people. I could comment on at least 5+ other topics in here that come to mind in a similar manner, this goes beyond my personal distaste, some things yes I find disturbing but some things I just find people need to think about what they are doing instead of embracing it.

Edit: also I know lots of ex-Homosexual people, who "chose" to become straight ( not everyone can turn back, it depends on the person and what made them have homosexual tendencies in the first place) , who wish they hadn't done some of they things they did. We are the ultimate masters of our own destiny. Finding the cause and reason to our own motives is the first step to greatness.
I only post this here because i think people here tend to be more open minded, however if someone is very deep into accepting themselves they way they are then please do not take offense, there is nothing wrong with you I'm just trying to shed some logical light onto this.

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:40 pm
by Banquo
Johnmaster wrote: A kink, I believe, comes out of curiosity at first, however sex is a drug and people should know that it can have a powerful effect on you. I believe that no one is actually Dominant or submissive, but just in a temporary state in such a way, prolonging it is accepting perhaps some subconscious problem inside yourself. Centering therefore your whole lifestyle around something like this I find could be detrimental to many people. I could comment on at least 5+ other topics in here that come to mind in a similar manner, this goes beyond my personal distaste, some things yes I find disturbing but some things I just find people need to think about what they are doing instead of embracing it.
I think you are making some big assumptions about the users here. This is after all a very focused website, it's about fetishes, teasing etc. And exploring ones sexual impulses. Therefore you will likely only see perhaps one aspect of some ones personality in their posts. Because they only come here to express that.

You are assuming that is all that consumes their life. In most cases I suspect that is not true.

As for people centring their lifestyle around one fetish etc. How is this harmful? People into the BDSM lifet style can be perfectly healthy and happy within it, both mentally and physically.

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:54 pm
by treyp
We are the ultimate masters of our own destiny. Finding the cause and reason to our own motives is the first step to greatness.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I believe in that theory too. But let's not forget that most of us aren't capable of even knowing who we truly are. So finding our motives is far more difficult that it sounds.
Be your self they say...
But who am I?
Do I know me? Or having to wear masks all the time so I won't have to conflict with social pressure made me forgot how I really look?
Sometimes we tend to use a persona so much that it feels almost natural as though it is our true self. Social pressure or even personal conflict doesn't allow us to express our full entity so that our core becomes our exterior. We keep running from everyone but mostly from ourselves.
Some people feel safer being, or acting like, someone else rather than accepting who they are.

Fetishes are quite the same. They may be someone else's but we feel relaxed pretending to be that guy. On the other hand we tend to become what society wants us to be and forget the man under the mask (our true self) who has his own fetishes and preferences.

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:01 pm
by Johnmaster
treyp wrote:
We are the ultimate masters of our own destiny. Finding the cause and reason to our own motives is the first step to greatness.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I believe in that theory too. But let's not forget that most of us aren't capable of even knowing who we truly are. So finding our motives is far more difficult that it sounds.
Be your self they say...
But who am I?
Do I know me? Or having to wear masks all the time so I won't have to conflict with social pressure made me forgot how I really look?
Sometimes we tend to use a persona so much that it feels almost natural as though it is our true self. Social pressure or even personal conflict doesn't allow us to express our full entity so that our core becomes our exterior. We keep running from everyone but mostly from ourselves.
Some people feel safer being, or acting like, someone else rather than accepting who they are.

Fetishes are quite the same. They may be someone else's but we feel relaxed pretending to be that guy. On the other hand we tend to become what society wants us to be and forget the man under the mask (our true self) who has his own fetishes and preferences.
=) You are a very thoughtful person, i really appreciate your comment and it has stimulated further thought within me, especially after i have seen what you have been achieving with your 50 days of denial.

For the question "who am I?" Everybody is essentially empty however sad it seems. what we do is we try and fill up our lives with things. I think sexual denial is a beautiful thing because it takes out the lust and fills you life with love for your partner.

Everyone is trying to fill their lives up in some shape or form, wheter they use music etc. etc.

Personally I refuse to let myself become too absorbed into the sexual side of things because people are suffering on a massive scale and the economic system is blatantly bad etc. etc. And i am for a revolution and i stimulate this, like someone stimulates their love with denial, with revolutionary music, i feel this is a calling, and maybe it's not me, but it is because logic says so.

I always go for logic>emotions, although emotions are also a beautiful thing.

Let emotions be the fantasy and let Logic be you. That's what I feel.

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:23 pm
by treyp
Personally I refuse to let myself become too absorbed into the sexual side of things because people are suffering on a massive scale and the economic system is blatantly bad etc. etc. And i am for a revolution and i stimulate this, like someone stimulates their love with denial, with revolutionary music, i feel this is a calling, and maybe it's not me, but it is because logic says so.
Ancient Greeks had a saying: "Moderation is best" which I believe is the single rule everyone must obey and it's the one I use in all aspects of my life.

You speak about logic against emotions. Too much logic turns you into a robot. To many emotions turn you into a... :hmmm: teenager?
Anyway the bottom line is that everything even sexuality must be carefully calibrated cause it's not the only thing that we are going through. As you said we are going through a financial crisis.
Someone might be unemployed and his children are starving themselves. It would be idiotic of him to let his arousal an sexuality get in the way of being the provider for the family using his last paycheck on hookers or something.

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:33 am
by Incubo
I don't know that I'd call it disturbing, but there are some fetishes around here that are baffling to me. I suppose simply because they aren't mine and I have no interest in them so I don't really understand them. But...I'm a HUGE believer in personal choice and personal responsibility, so as long as you're not hurting anyone, I figure you can pretty much do whatever you like. I may not like it, or even understand it, I just accept that not everyone is like me. It'd be a pretty boring world if they were. :lol:

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:12 pm
by Johnmaster
I wasn't talking about the financial crisis, the whole system is basically exploitative.

Adam smith himself said that the government is against the average person.

I don't think anybody can completely become a robot, it all comes back to emotions in the end so I strive to be as logical as possible, but it is also logical to indulge yourself in things also, but like you said in moderation.

There is a sea of information that people don't know and it is quite enlightening, this culture doesn't tend to encourage us to educate ourselves in depth on everything. To someone maths may just be addition but in reality it's a unfathomably huge field.

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:02 pm
by Slutastic
THE GAME
Spoiler: show
Everyone is in the game no matter if they like it or not.
You are a small speck in a vast open universe and you get put there with no rules nothing to tell you what you are meant to be doing.
But after a while other Specks come together and try and enforce law of what should happen in there eyes
and this is only because they have learned from other specks that is wrong - but with out bad there cant be good - the ying and the yang, so except the existence of all specs
and have a very good day :)

Re: Is it just me?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:35 pm
by dakeyras
I do find some fetishes a bit disturbing but that is one of the reasons I really like this site... no holds barred... and sometimes you try something new and end up liking it... how are you going to learn new stuff if you stick to the same things all the time?