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Snare wrote:
1. I am against all public logs. I don't see much of a use for them (besides admin use) and I would rather not have to deal with the issues that can occur with having them. But the tribe has spoken, and if my fellow moderators don't have a problem with it I will back off and let it all happen again. (The 2 users that abused the chat logs used logs that were not even 24 hours old.)

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Oda wrote:

Snare wrote:
1. I am against all public logs. I don't see much of a use for them (besides admin use) and I would rather not have to deal with the issues that can occur with having them. But the tribe has spoken, and if my fellow moderators don't have a problem with it I will back off and let it all happen again. (The 2 users that abused the chat logs used logs that were not even 24 hours old.)

Newspapers Snare, Newspapers!

Not sure I understand Oda. Could you explain?

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Snare wrote:

Oda wrote:

Snare wrote:
1. I am against all public logs. I don't see much of a use for them (besides admin use) and I would rather not have to deal with the issues that can occur with having them. But the tribe has spoken, and if my fellow moderators don't have a problem with it I will back off and let it all happen again. (The 2 users that abused the chat logs used logs that were not even 24 hours old.)

Newspapers Snare, Newspapers!

Not sure I understand Oda. Could you explain?

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That is from an argument of mine to this point. Nothing against you Snare, have no problems with you, but i get tired of always reading this statement from everybody, when banq and i already showed, that this isn´t the problem. The two person you are talking about just used the chat logs. It doesn´t create the situation. I could talk alot more about it now... but i already said everything in my other posts about it, so i won´t repeat myself anymore.

Okay, I just wanted my opinion heard, as everyone else in this thread has done. Anyways I'm not going to dwell on that issue much anyways. My main point was the second part of the post. Part 1 was to inform my stance on the issue and the reasoning behind it, that's it.

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Snare wrote:

Oda wrote:

Snare wrote:
1. I am against all public logs. I don't see much of a use for them (besides admin use) and I would rather not have to deal with the issues that can occur with having them. But the tribe has spoken, and if my fellow moderators don't have a problem with it I will back off and let it all happen again. (The 2 users that abused the chat logs used logs that were not even 24 hours old.)

Newspapers Snare, Newspapers!

Not sure I understand Oda. Could you explain?

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Snare

Yeah Oda made a point about this whole harassment through logs thing a page or so back buddy. Would suggest you go read them as he makes a fine point.

Now I came to this thread tonight simply to say that I have made my points on this subject. Some would say a little too aggressively. I would say forcefully. If my posts have seemed confrontational this is out of frustration more than a personal dislike of someone. (trust me if I didn't like you I would tell you.)

I will not be adding anything more to the debate, I have had my say, and some of you have respectfully debated this with me adding counter argument and actual points. Others have ignored the points I have raised and just repeated the same old rhetoric about people abusing the logs. I have no desire to endlessly debate things I have already spoken about further up thread. I will of course answer any queries directed at me as I believe that it is only fair to reply promptly as I expected others to.

Banquo

*sigh*
And I'm not talking about the logs anymore, I said my piece that's how I feel and that is my reasoning. If you have a problem with it, have it I could care less what anyone said on the matter. I read through the entire thread and know what is there. I'm just tired of this debate in general.

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P.S. Any further discussions towards the logs can be forwarded to my forum inbox where they will be read and likely deleted.

seraph0x wrote:Back on topic: To answer Jen's question: Yes it's certainly technically possible to have 24 hour logs accessible by all and full logs accessible by mods only. Perhaps we've found a compromise acceptable to all?

Sounds great to me. Even the XMPP client solution you mentioned, even though it requires some research on the part of the user, pretty much addresses all needs I can foresee too.