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"People might get hurt." societies lame excuse for every restriction.
They said that to Mozart. Is Don Giovanni possible?
I see no issue other than, your idea of what is possible.
Now put out that cigarette, "People might get hurt".

Kendoll wrote:"People might get hurt." societies lame excuse for every restriction.
They said that to Mozart. Is Don Giovanni possible?
I see no issue other than, your idea of what is possible.
Now put out that cigarette, "People might get hurt".

Ah, so I see that you don't care if your subs' feelings are hurt, or that they might even suffer an emotional breakdown as a result of your actions, and the trust they've mistakenly placed in you. I guess mental/emotional safety isn't a big priority for you.

You, madam, are a shitty domme.

So...given all this, I have a request to make of Kendoll's subs. I would like you to post here (or, PM me if you're not comfortable with that). I would like to know first, whether you believe me, and second, how you feel about all this.

Thanks for your time.

*contemplates*

After "sleeping on it", I suppose I will add my two cents worth. And I am going to speak my mind, uncensored......but I will not get into a posting war, back and forth.

Anyone that knows me, knows that I do not judge people. I may not agree with what they do, and/or I won't do what they do.
Having said that, I don't believe it's judgemental to express concern when there are people involved that you think are going to get hurt.

I applaud Allit for sharing his feelings about all of this. They are valid concerns. Something or nothing may ever come of his posting this, but at least the seed has been planted in those that are concerned.

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Evals made the comment about the Webteases having to do with hypnosis. I debated back and forth as to whether I wanted to look at the teases or not. I made it as far as "take the test". I saw the mountain picture, I think it was. And that's all it took for me to quickly close the browser.
Having been under hypnosis once, I know the dangers that can come from it. Do I believe it's real, that people can be hypnotized, absolutely!

I think beyond everything else....this is what concerns me most about any of this. Are these submissives truly "hers" by choice, as Miss Kendoll claims they are, or has she only gotten inside of their minds and they don't even have a clue as to the dangers that lay before them.
I believe that the word "hypnosis" should be added to the "topic" area that people see before doing a tease. And I think it should also be said, somewhere in the tease, prior to "the test". People have a right to know exactly what lies ahead of them.

Miss Kendoll you are dangerous and irresponsible, but it sounds as if you enjoy being this way.
I hope that in the end, that everyone that you have decieved is okay, that no one has been hurt emotionally or physically. I don't believe you can say the same thing.......well, actually I know you can't, because you already made light of the fact that people might possibly get hurt.

Shame on you for doing what you have done!

~Really??.....~ ~Realllllyyyy....????~
A ~picture~ of mountains made you close your browser??
Wow.....

All I can say is, don't ever visit the Lake Tahoe area...... You'll be mesmerized....
Oh wait..... Bad example.....
(although I'll grant you, back in the day, as a teenager, one look at Pandora Peaks and I was ~entranced~.... Made quite an impression!! - LOL!!)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ok5f ... lside_sexy

But seriously....a picture??.....of mountains?? (shaking head here....)

Ya'll are taking this WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY too seriously...
I'm pretty sure that Kendoll's "girls" are just having their fun, playing with and getting attention from a hot chica and all, and are very welcome to quit playing if or when they get bored or tired.....

I'm going to ignore the above post (by ballsfull), as it's both off-topic and condescending.

Alliteration wrote:I have a request to make of Kendoll's subs. I would like you to post here (or, PM me if you're not comfortable with that). I would like to know first, whether you believe me, and second, how you feel about all this.

I wrote the above on Monday. Still not a single word from *any* of Kendoll's subs regarding the matter. What gives? Did she tell them all not to respond? I figured at least one of them would come forward and say "no, she treats me well...". Guess not.

It's great that you've aired your concerns but I really see it as a non-issue. Mistress Kendoll has been great so far!

She didn't contact me... I contacted her. I sought her out, I chatted with her back and forth, and I made the conscious choice to submit.

If things go sour (and I doubt they will) then so be it. I accepted that risk when I left myself open to her will.

In all honesty your issues are based entirely on speculation and were, up until this point, not worth addressing. Maybe you should try contacting Mistress Kendoll directly instead of trying to air your concerns by publicly slandering a member for something you merely *anticipate* them doing. At the most you've uncovered that Mistress Kendoll is an alter ego of Quiet Linda, and although you have some compelling evidence you really don't have proof (like, say, matching IP addresses on the accounts...). In any case, that's for the admins to know as opposed to the average user and, from my understanding based on the terms of agreement to the site, information that they are not at liberty to expose to regular members.

Mistress Kendoll has been amazing so far and hasn't done anything on this board beyond creating some amazing webteases and recruiting some new subs with her very concise, powerful, and even erotic style of writing. You'd think that with all the teases that get rated below the viewing threshold that a strong tease writer would be applauded for their efforts as opposed to being thrown under the bus.

If Mistress Kendoll's teases are not to your liking, or you don't like the idea of her teases spanning out into the forums (although I never saw complaints about a Jana teases or other ones that used characters from teases as members on the forums) then just give it a vote and be done with it. We're all adults here, and we're supposed to know what we're doing. You don't need to be a hero and try to save us from a bad decision, because good or bad those decisions are ours to make.

I'm going to ignore the above post (by ballsfull), as it's both off-topic and condescending.

I can see how the mountain part might have been off topic, but I was quite serious about being puzzled that someone could make it as far as a ~picture~ of a mountain scene, and be so offended/disturbed/upset/whatever that it caused Shell to close her browser....
I was trying to be humorous, but I appreciate that not everyone always thinks I'm funny.. Oh well... I tried...

But I certainly DON'T think that saying that a few are taking this WAYYYYY too seriously is off topic....
It's an opinion, ABOUT the topic....

Did she tell them all not to respond?

Perhaps.....but I get the feeling that if they all responded that she treats them well, and they're all having fun, you would have claimed that Kendoll must have just ~made~ them all say that....
Because they must be under her mind control, naturally....

But seriously, in the past few years, there's been NUMEROUS Misses, Mistresses, and Dommes, that ALL had their stables of horny boys at their beck and call, doing all SORTS of tasks and contests, and everyone ENJOYED that....
In that same time, there's also probably well over a dozen one-and-done "Mistresses" that introduced themselves by asking boys to make a list of all the things that the boys could do for ~them~, including wanting money.... They didn't typically last long, but where were you on THOSE??? (rhetorical question - I appreciate you've only been around a few months)

But hell, back once upon a time when I was writing webteases, even ~I~ had a gaggle of girls that used to want to play all the time with me.... Honestly, it all got to be too much time for me, but if you asked them, I'd be surprised and disappointed if each and every girl ~didn't~ tell you they had a great time, doing tasks and going as far as ~they~ wanted to go.... But they were all free to play or not play, for as long as THEY wanted......

To wrap this up, I guess I just don't understand the "calling out" part of this, regarding ONLY Kendoll....
Seems terribly unfair to her, and to the "girls" that are just having fun...

As long as everybody is "of age", and money isn't being asked for, I just don't get what the big deal is....

In addition..... ~Yes, what ~she~ said... Hi, Sarah!

sarah_sweetgirl wrote:Mistress Kendoll has been amazing so far and hasn't done anything on this board beyond creating some amazing webteases and recruiting some new subs with her very concise, powerful, and even erotic style of writing. You'd think that with all the teases that get rated below the viewing threshold that a strong tease writer would be applauded for their efforts as opposed to being thrown under the bus.

Exactly.... In fact, one of the reasons I DO like these teases is because they have a ~work-out~ aspect to them, (or at least I HOPE that's to be involved, at least tangentially), and I applaud that....

It's a new angle I wish I'd thought of, and I'm looking forward to seeing where this can go....

It could even start a new fitness craze...... "Orgasmacize".... (pronounced "or-gaz-ma-size")
Because if hot women are involved, sign me UP for THAT class!!!

Great, a response!

sarah_sweetgirl wrote:It's great that you've aired your concerns but I really see it as a non-issue. Mistress Kendoll has been great so far!

She didn't contact me... I contacted her. I sought her out, I chatted with her back and forth, and I made the conscious choice to submit.

If things go sour (and I doubt they will) then so be it. I accepted that risk when I left myself open to her will.

This is exactly what I wanted to see. I do think you're making a poor decision (seeing as you've been here less than a week - are you sure you trust someone you haven't known that long?), but you are right. It's on you. Nowhere did I try to force anyone to stop doing what they're doing; I'm just issuing words of caution which I think you should examine more closely.

In all honesty your issues are based entirely on speculation and were, up until this point, not worth addressing. Maybe you should try contacting Mistress Kendoll directly instead of trying to air your concerns by publicly slandering a member for something you merely *anticipate* them doing. At the most you've uncovered that Mistress Kendoll is an alter ego of Quiet Linda, and although you have some compelling evidence you really don't have proof (like, say, matching IP addresses on the accounts...). In any case, that's for the admins to know as opposed to the average user and, from my understanding based on the terms of agreement to the site, information that they are not at liberty to expose to regular members.

The mere fact that she has an alter-ego isn't the problem; it's that, when confronted, she doesn't admit it. She's being deceptive, that's what I have a problem with. It really makes me wonder what else she's being deceptive about. How well do you really know her?

Mistress Kendoll has been amazing so far and hasn't done anything on this board beyond creating some amazing webteases and recruiting some new subs with her very concise, powerful, and even erotic style of writing. You'd think that with all the teases that get rated below the viewing threshold that a strong tease writer would be applauded for their efforts as opposed to being thrown under the bus.

I don't think her teases are very good, but that's just a matter of opinion. The "new subs" are what I'm worried about. There's a ridiculous amount of them, and as most of them registered in the past week, I think they're rushing into things far too quickly.

If Mistress Kendoll's teases are not to your liking, or you don't like the idea of her teases spanning out into the forums (although I never saw complaints about a Jana teases or other ones that used characters from teases as members on the forums) then just give it a vote and be done with it. We're all adults here, and we're supposed to know what we're doing. You don't need to be a hero and try to save us from a bad decision, because good or bad those decisions are ours to make.

The teases themselves aren't the problem. I think I've made the problem pretty clear. Have fun with your bad decisions, I guess.

I don't think her teases are very good, but that's just a matter of opinion. The "new subs" are what I'm worried about. There's a ridiculous amount of them, and as most of them registered in the past week, I think they're rushing into things far too quickly.

That's fair enough, and from that perspective, I appreciate what you're trying to do....

But I just want to throw out one thought, and I think this is what happens a quite a lot....

A girl (or guy) will be surfing/reading/enjoying this website for quite a while, while never actually being motivated to register.... And then, a thread is started, or a webtease is written, that really "hits the spot" of the person, and they want to be involved.....
So they register, to be allowed to comment and send/receive PMs....
And I think that's a GOOD thing, for everyone...

But there's your ~new~ person.... They're not really new to the site, just that you've never heard from them before.... Happens ALLLLL the time...

Just something to think about....

Thanks,
Barry

ballsfull wrote:

I don't think her teases are very good, but that's just a matter of opinion. The "new subs" are what I'm worried about. There's a ridiculous amount of them, and as most of them registered in the past week, I think they're rushing into things far too quickly.

That's fair enough, and from that perspective, I appreciate what you're trying to do....

But I just want to throw out one thought, and I think this is what happens a quite a lot....

A girl (or guy) will be surfing/reading/enjoying this website for quite a while, while never actually being motivated to register.... And then, a thread is started, or a webtease is written, that really "hits the spot" of the person, and they want to be involved.....
So they register, to be allowed to comment and send/receive PMs....
And I think that's a GOOD thing, for everyone...

But there's your ~new~ person.... They're not really new to the site, just that you've never heard from them before.... Happens ALLLLL the time...

Just something to think about....

Thanks,
Barry

I know these people might not be new to the website itself...my concern is that they're certainly new to Kendoll, meaning that they haven't talked to her prior to registering. Maybe I'm alone here, but I view D/s relationships as rather serious. I can't even fathom entering into one myself after knowing a person for less than a week - I think real trust is necessary; and for that you have to know someone really well. Playing with someone is one thing...but to say you're someone's sub? Way more serious, in my opinion.

ballsfull wrote:

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~Really??.....~ ~Realllllyyyy....????~
A ~picture~ of mountains made you close your browser??
Wow.....

All I can say is, don't ever visit the Lake Tahoe area...... You'll be mesmerized....
Oh wait..... Bad example.....
(although I'll grant you, back in the day, as a teenager, one look at Pandora Peaks and I was ~entranced~.... Made quite an impression!! - LOL!!)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ok5f ... lside_sexy

But seriously....a picture??.....of mountains?? (shaking head here....)

Ya'll are taking this WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY too seriously...
I'm pretty sure that Kendoll's "girls" are just having their fun, playing with and getting attention from a hot chica and all, and are very welcome to quit playing if or when they get bored or tired.....

I can see how the mountain part might have been off topic, but I was quite serious about being puzzled that someone could make it as far as a ~picture~ of a mountain scene, and be so offended/disturbed/upset/whatever that it caused Shell to close her browser....
I was trying to be humorous, but I appreciate that not everyone always thinks I'm funny.. Oh well... I tried...

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It didn't come across as humorous, but I appreciate the fact that you followed up by sharing that, so it lessened the sting of your words.

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I want to state here, before I continue, that the little bit of what I did see in that WebTease, I believe Kendall to have awesome talent in the creation of Webteases, taking people where she wants them to go.

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Barry, yes, I can see how reading what I wrote about the picture of the mountain might have seemed over the top....if you weren't inside my brain, as I shared what I did.
It wasn't "the mountain" that made me close my browser. It was what was shown and said before the mountain and what I speculated might come after it, that made me close it.

First there were the two pictures, that I have placed in spoilers below.

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And then these words:

"You can prove
that Kendoll's Heart Pendant
has no effect on you.
When you press continue a timer will start,
Simply, do not think about Kendoll's Heart Pendant."

As I said, in my post, I have been hypnotised and it was not a pleasant experience. True the person that put me under, was an evil person, and to my disadvantage, I found that out to late.
When I saw the "pinwheel" on the two pictures, I felt the uneasiness begin in me, that happens when ever the topic of hypnosis comes up. (After research, I did find that the pinwheel is the web site's emblem, that they place on their images for sale.) Then seeing the way the words were written, that last line, the words chosen just like a hypnotist would chose them, I became even more anxious.

When the clicking on continue did not bring up a sexy female, or something of that nature, but of a beautiful landscape, I was back in that house, all those years ago - the difference is...this time I closed the browser, where last time I feel prey to him.

I don't know what is beyond the mountain....it all could be harmless.....Kendell may not be a hypnotists, but just a good Tease writer and a Mistress that draws in submissives like bees to a flower.
I have no intention of going further then that the mountain.

When I expressed what I did, I didn't go into the depth, as I have done here. My problem with the WebTease comes from my history.

My problem with the way things are being done with Kendell and her submissives is a whole other matter, and perhaps that is where I should have placed my attention, and left my personal issues out of it.

I agree with Allit, that I do not understand how two people can go into a Dominate/submissive relationship after only a week of knowing the person, more less, after reading a Webtease or two by that person, or even meeting and having one encounter in a chat room.
That doesn't mean I judge those that find those relationships so quickly. It means I don't understand it.

I do understand the immediate attraction and connection that two people can have upon that first meeting.
But how can either P/people place their trust in someone that they have only just met.
A BDSM lifestyle, in many ways, goes beyond the vanilla relationship that two people commit to.
A submissive places their trust in the Dominant, mentally, emotionally and physically. And the Dominant places their trust in the submissive, in much the same way, without the physical part.
How, after only a few hours or days, can that sort of trust be gained?

Each and every person is different, and that is why I do not judge the quick relationships. I simply don't understand them and find myself concerned for those that make those decisions.

In this situation, at present count, Kendoll has 11 submissives under her. How can one person give of themselves, the way that they should, to 11 submissives, giving them all that they require to feel fulfilled in their service as a submissive?
Perhaps this situation is no more then what we saw with Miss Jay, and the following she had, although I never saw Her laying claim to submissives, but more that they were offering what they had to Her.

Am I still concerned, yes. Am I judging anyone, no. I stand fully behind what I tell people all the time. "Enjoy life and all that it has to offer." I only hope, for those concerned, that what is offered, is truly by their own choice, and not placed upon them, without consent.

Shell

It is a bit like "don't think of the pink elephant" kind of thing... once said, it is sure to be on your mind, it is just how our mind works, if you try to concentrate on keeping something out, you actually concentrate on keeping it in.

So that part to "not see or remember the pendant" is playing with the human mind, and it is basically impossible to not think of it.


And yes, i know too well that there are quite a few irresponsible hypnotists out there, who are either unused to giving sugegstions, or who do this purely on purpose. I spent a lot of my time "fixing" things for people who have been screwed afterwards. I used to be on many hypnosis related sites and communities, as this is also a big kink of mine. But i left them all again, as i couldn't stand how they developed... all of them. What the online hypnosis community is nowadays can barely compared to what it was like when i started with this. My advice can only be: if you are new to hypnosis, female, inexperienced, very curious about hypnosis and young, stay away from any of those communities, as in 95% of the cases you will end up with the wrong person. Maybe it is not this bad, but it is still bad enough, and as i spent so much time "repairing" damage that was done, i may have a more negative view on it than it really is.


Thats why i only posted one of my scripts in the story section, and also with a huge disclaimer above, and a description what would be inside. Hypnosis can be powerful, especially if the person has no clue about it or wrong impressions.