Milovana.com

The chat room is getting better

Chat Room Greeting wrote:
Hello, and welcome to The Lounge! Please observe basic etiquette! Do not PM other users unannounced.
Instead, use the Whisper feature to ask for permission.

Can this be changed to

New Greeting wrote:
Hello, and welcome to The Lounge! Please observe basic etiquette!
Do not PM or Whisper, other users without permission.
Instead, politely ask for permission in open chat first.

Thanks

Les

Please ask Indigo about chat issues, thanks!

Indigo wrote:

les wrote:
SHOW RESPECT Private chat and whispers, Require a public invite first!!

Just to point out, this is *not* a requirement, rather a personal preference. Some folks just don't mind. So it's more out of courtesy to fellow chatters, than any sort of formal rule.

Fair comment I did mention that it was not liked perhaps I will try and make your point clear .

Now reads
SHOW RESPECT Before starting Private Chat and Whispers, Please get an invite in public first!!

thanks for the input Indy.

................................................. Les

les wrote:
Let’s start with the recent one that’s in everybody’s current thoughts.


Chat logs have been disabled.

The reasoning behind this, in my understanding, is that as the chat room is an inherently live one on one part of Milovana things may be said that will be regretted later.

It is unfair for third parties to be able to retain a copy of such bloopers to be used out of context else where or at other times.

…………………………………………. Les

I believe this analysis is correct.

I also believe it is a fairly flawed line of thought on the part of the admins (no offense at all)

If someone in chat wants to retain the data, they can - whether or not milovana likes them to. Lets remember, anything the milovana server sends to a particular chat client (user) to be displayed as "live" data, can be stored by that user, using 3rd party software or something as simple as pen and paper.

In short, there is no way to prevent anyone from maintaining a history of everything that has been said in a way that is visible to that particular user if they want to, so why try?

I think a much better direction to go in for this particular issue is information - make sure all chat users realize that what they write in chat is not necessarily gone the next minute, the next day or the next month, but may in fact be logged. Simply because as I already pointed out, this is the case, completely regardless of what anyone might want it to be.

Please realize I am exclusively discussing technical fact here - I might very well be in agreement that having a strictly "live only" chat being a good idea - I am just advocating the fact that it is not possible.

Even if the network traffic was encrypted, still nothing would prevent anyone from setting up a video camera, taping it all, and transcribing it digitally later...

les wrote:

Now reads
SHOW RESPECT Before starting Private Chat and Whispers, Please get an invite in public first!!


................................................. Les

I completely agree people should get invited before stepping into private chats, but this does not necessarily need to happen in public. As long as it happens.

Now reads
SHOW RESPECT Before starting Private Chat and Whispers, Please get an invite in public first!!

I don't get it - why? And what does respect have to do with it. Why don't I just write PM to anyone I wish to talk to, and he may refuse answering it or accept. It's he's choice. You don't ask that permission on forums - you just write. I don't get why chat should be different?

My comment may be valid simply because I'v been in chants ant I know what it is like. My opinion isn't less valid if I'm not in this particular chat.

besides, maybe I don't want other people to know I'm chatting (or asked for chat) with someone in private.

Nezhul wrote:My comment may be valid simply because I'v been in chants ant I know what it is like. My opinion isn't less valid if I'm not in this particular chat.

besides, maybe I don't want other people to know I'm chatting (or asked for chat) with someone in private.

If you Private chat some one it open a box in their chat page that is unmissable, as it obscures the chats taking place.

................................................. Les

I totally agree with Nezhul about his opinion on "asking for private chat".

Les, if the chat system allows any user to open an unmissable window on another user's screen, [b]the chat system is buggy[/b] and needs to be fixed. If this behavior is not considered buggy (i.e., it is expected behavior), then the developers/admins are actually expressing their opinion on the matter: there's no need to publicly (or otherwise) ask permission for private chat.