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Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:11 pm
by d3vi0n
New Upload: A Month With Jana (Day 1-5) [HD] by Decker (116 MB)

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http://www.mediafire.com/?7tk7e8epqdbf888

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:32 pm
by janmb
Great work Dev! I assume you will have a look at the other parts as well in due time? :yes:

And I really wish someone will have a look at the Giving up control series as well some day, including videos... The series used a lot of tube videos, many of which are long gone. Besides, flash teases using videos extensively make for very good TeaseMe material since the videos can be embedded instead.

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:11 am
by ty4365
awesome work! uve encouraged me to try janas series for real

same question as above, the quality of these is fantastic, would be nice to have them all avaliable over the 30days

cheers

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:45 pm
by d3vi0n
Thanks... :smile:

But making a "good" HD-Remake is a lot of work. Import is just the first step. I check every page if it works "offline" like the author intended for the online-version... removing errors, making minor changes to instructions, optimizing the pages including button layout and delays, formatting the text, integrating videos, replacing the pictures and adding some new ones, writing a short introduction to honor the work of the author...

It's very unlikely that i have the time to get the whole series into TeaseMe. I don't have the picture sets needed for the rest of the series. See Day1-5 as "teaser" for the series or encouragement to contribute yourself a offline version of the remaining days. Same goes with "Giving up control". I simply don't have the pictures (and time) needed. And replacing the pictures with another set of another model increases the complexity of the work a lot. It's also difficult if the tease uses videos which are long gone now. What type of video should replace the missing video? What length should the video have?

So sorry, if i can't get every tease as HD-version into TeaseMe myself. But I would love to see more conversions of other users and teases :wave:

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:10 pm
by janmb
I for one fully appreciate the amount of work involved - that's what prevents me from doing more teases myself as well ;-)

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:28 pm
by tommarr
I agree there is lot of work to convert online tease to offline hd tease. However after "import" option was published with teaseme, workload to convert one has dramatically gone down. I remember how I wrote every line from the online tease to my notepad, searched for every image with reverse image search (yeah, I had to screenshot page, crop the image, save it and use for search) and so on.. It really took a LOT of time and I thought "Never again.." but then we got import :-D

So because it's "easy" (not that much work than before) nowdays, I encourage people to make HD conversions and share em with us! That way we will get more teases for us who love HD :blush:

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:09 pm
by wheresmything
I'd be willing to convert a couple here or there as time allows, but there are two questions I have that I've not seen an answer for:

1) Where to host them (I can't, but I'd could upload them somewhere else for hosting by someone else).
2) How to handle attribution/permission (I don't want to steal anyone's thunder - after all, it's entirely possible they don't want their tease available in this format).

So how do we handle those?

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:27 pm
by janmb
2: Get permission from the original author I guess...

1: offline teases tend to not get overly big... I can easily host any teaseme material you like...

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:29 pm
by Coco
Hi,
I'm having trouble with the TeaseMe-Syntax, hopefully you can help me :-)

I'm trying to translate the multiple must/mustnot-commands (e.g. Tease 10529, Will You Want To Go On? by Nezhul) and always come across the same problem:

if there was a must-command in the original

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must(self:20#,action:19#)
and the converter couldn't convert it properly (which is the case with this tease) it should be done like this:

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<Page id="20 if-set="19">
That's what I understood in this thread.

And since it doesn't set pages automatically

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<AutoSetPageWhenSeen>false</AutoSetPageWhenSeen>
, I have to do it manually.

The above pattern of must->if-set pages refers to 20 pages numbered from 1 to 20 apparently and the respective previous page has to be set for the actual page to be visited (e.g. 6 has to be set to visit 7, 7 has to be set to visit 8, and so on...), which leads me to the following:

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<Page id="7" if-set="6" set="7">
Somehow this isn't working so I also tried it the other way around:

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<Page id="7" set="7" if-set="6"
which still didn't work. The pages itself only have delays of 0 seconds (a delay that isn't compatible with TeaseMe, I suppose, since it always got stuck on that page and gave me a negative timer. I changed the delays to 1 second-delays, which works fine), so the only way to put it within the page was:

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     <Page id="7" if-set="6">      <!-- 7#page(text:'',media:pic(id:"*.jpg"),                  action:delay(time:0hrs,target:NextTask#,style:hidden)) -->      <Image id="*.jpg" />      <Delay target="NextTask" seconds="1" style="normal" [color=#BF0000]set="7"[/color] />    </Page>
Still doesn't work...I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, I just don't see, what it is. Would be great of someone maybe sees it :yes:

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:46 pm
by d3vi0n
it's tricky with converting must/mustnot into TeaseMe.

some tips to your questions:
  • set <AutoSetPageWhenSeen> to true and TeaseMe should set pages automatically, when visited
  • set/unset attributes can only be placed on <button> and <delay>... not on <page>
  • delays of 0 seconds aren't possible with TeaseMe at the moment. In flashteases these pages are mostly used to check "flags". In TeaseMe you can check flags with if-set/if-not-set directly within a <page>, <button>, <delay> tag. So normally you can remove all pages with 0-second-delays and achieve the same result by using if-set/if-not-set on the remaining pages. Checking multiple flags with one "if-set" is not possible in TeaseMe v0.1.1, but the version on github supports this feature already. Should be part of the next release (A+B for and, A|B for or)
I tested following code without problems:

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(...)  <Settings>    <AutoSetPageWhenSeen>false</AutoSetPageWhenSeen>  </Settings>  <Pages>    <Page id="start">       <Text>Start</Text>      <Image id="*.jpg" />      <Button target="1">Start</Button>    </Page>    <Page id="1">       <Text>1</Text>      <Image id="*.jpg" />            <Delay target="2" seconds="1" set="1" />    </Page>    <Page id="2" if-set="1">       <Text>2</Text>            <Image id="*.jpg" />      <Delay target="end" seconds="1" set="2" />    </Page>    <Page id="end" if-set="2">       <Text>end</Text>      <Image id="*.jpg" />          </Page>(...)
Same result, different <AutoSetPageWhenSeen> and no set:

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(...)  <Settings>    <AutoSetPageWhenSeen>true</AutoSetPageWhenSeen>  </Settings>  <Pages>    <Page id="start">       <Text>Start</Text>      <Image id="*.jpg" />      <Button target="1">Start</Button>    </Page>    <Page id="1">       <Text>1</Text>      <Image id="*.jpg" />            <Delay target="2" seconds="1" />    </Page>    <Page id="2" if-set="1">       <Text>2</Text>            <Image id="*.jpg" />      <Delay target="end" seconds="1" />    </Page>    <Page id="end" if-set="2">       <Text>end</Text>      <Image id="*.jpg" />          </Page>(...)

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:15 pm
by Mat
janmb wrote: If it doesnt work out for you I can grab and zip the entire series for you later
Thank you very much, sorry for not replying straight away,

I've been meaning to upgrade my pc to windows 7 for a while and now that I have Teaseme works perfectly :-D

And thank you to D3vi0n and Takenaga for this excellent program

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:43 pm
by janmb
Glad to hear it - I had forgotten all about it so glad it worked out :-D

If I ever get the time, I'm actually contemplating going to work on a total rework of the "Giving up control" series (pending permission from Decker obviously). That series would definitely deserve a HD remake with working videos. But it is a tremendous amount of work so remains to be seen when.

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:11 pm
by Gsus
I've been using this a lot, and I have some suggestions, if you'd like them.

1) Allow a full screen mode.
2) See if you can make it clearer which button is highlighted - it's a Windows thing I know.. but when I use the keyboard rather than the mouse there's not much distinction between the highlighted and default, and I worry I'll hit the wrong one.
3) When downloading images and the internet is at a busy time the program will generate errors when it can't grab a file. Is it possible for it to retry to get these images? Either have it retry a number of times for each image that can be configured somewhere, or have it be able to re-process a tease and try for missing files?
4) Is it possible to have the program check to see if a tease has been updated? For example if someone fixes spelling/grammar or links or errors then the program could grab the XML, do some kind of CRC check and if it's updated say it needs to be redownloaded?
5) If you add that then perhaps you could have a way to check all teases in a batch that way?
6) If you allow it to re-try to grab missing images then can you allow it to do all teases in a batch? I often grab 2 or 3 teases when I'm horny and it's busy and I can't easily tell which have missing files now
7) Sometimes the buttons lose focus (if I click anywhere other than a button) and I can't seem to find a way for the buttons to regain focus other than clicking one with a mouse. If I'm doing a tease it's easier (and quicker if the tease depends on me being quick) using the keyboard.

I very much appreciate your software, it's fantastic. Thanks very much for it!

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:56 am
by Takenaga
I'm considering using the VideoLan Player (VLC) in the TeaseMe application (instead of Windows Media Player) so that it will be easier to make TeaseMe run on a Mac.

I guess the requirement of installing VLC will not be a problem to you all as you probably installed it anyway because this player simply plays the most video formats.

Any objections for this dependency?

Re: Offline Teases (TeaseMe)

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:56 pm
by Mat
Takenaga wrote:I'm considering using the VideoLan Player (VLC) in the TeaseMe application ... Any objections for this dependency?
Nope, I use VLC for all my videos anyway, and it's free :-)
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