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flyer47 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:35 pm Hmm... So I have a question.

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Let's say I'm playing Canto I and release during Virgo's training. I go to the epilogue which says wait 24 hours, complete Virgo's training round again, then two more times, earning 15 VP every time you complete the training round. So I wait 24 hours, complete Virgo's training round and earn 15 VP. I then wait another 24 hours and earn another 15 VP by completing Virgo's training round again. After another 24 hours I attempt to complete the training round again, but release during the training. Since I failed to follow the epilogue instructions by releasing and not completing the round and I also released during Virgo's training, I go back to Virgo's training epilogue. I follow the instructions again and I wait 24 hours complete a training round and earn 15 VP. I do the same again. Then, I again release on the third attempt again. I go back to the Virgo's epilogue. Let's say for some reason, I repeat this cycle 8 more times and finally complete the third day of training. That would earn me hundreds of VPs from completing Virgo's training rounds, but technically I would be in the same play through since I did not restart the video, only followed epilogue instructions. Would this be acceptable under a strict rules mindset?

Sorry, I don't mean to split hairs, but I just want to make sure I understand everything correctly.

So....

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Okay so there's always a difference between Rules As Written (RAW) and Rules As Intended (RAI) when it comes for RPGs. RAW seems to indicate you can do exactly as you described, and we won't stop you. RAI was that if you're doing an Epilogue, you're granted the points once you've successfully completed the whole thing. So after you do this 3 times successfully, award yourself 45VPs and move on. If you fail to completed the whole epilogue, then you start the epilogue over and you don't reassign the same 15 pts for finishing one part of it. But you do however have to complete the whole epilogue successfully if you wish to proceed with the video/game and move on. However, if you're into XP farming game-grinding etc to accumulate a bunch of XP in the most min/max fashion - hey, we're not going to stop you. Whatever makes you happy. This isn't NFL or NASCAR where there's so many draconian rules. Bottom line is - if you're doing that - then you're having fun which was the whole reason we created this - we want others to enjoy it. So that makes me happy that you're enjoying it over and over again.

But once again, if you're asking for the true spirit of what it was RAI initially - think of the XP as a box of chocolates that gets filled up each time you play from the beginning, and each award you get to eat your piece of chocolate. You can't eat the same chocolate twice. OR as an title/award for an online RPG or something. You can't get the title twice even if you kill the same evil boss twice.

So each time you finish Canto I, you'll have an individual point total that doesn't stack with the the next time you finish, just like each time you play Ms. PacMan, your high score initials go on the board, but the next high score you get doesn't add to that you just put your initials up again. In this case, if you finish Canto I several times, just take the best score you've achieved and move to Canto II. And IF you complete CANTO I all in one pass-through without having to go through an epilogue (even if it wasn't your first try) you gain a bonus of +50 to start Canto II. Hope that helps.

Also a comment about Nancey the reward round, individual tastes do vary and can be very specific. I for one absolutely loved Nancey. Those quick teasing shots of her while she's being summoned get my heart racing. The anticipation when I finally see her... I have a 99 percent chance of blowing my load at the exact moment when she starts her blowjob and the double time starts. Which honestly is kind of frustrating because I would rather fantasize about blowing a load in her pussy than her mouth, but usually my level of arousal is way too high to even make it to the part where she gets penetrated. To be honest I probably like her more than Angelica at the moment, but I imagine there's still a ton of footage of Anjelica I haven't seen, so I can still be swayed to like Anjelica more.

But yeah, I believe the Canto I reward round is quite epic. That's why I want to make sure I understand what the Erosphere team intended the Canto II challenge to be like. If there's another epic reward round, I want to make sure that I earned it properly, and that will make the reward round taste just a bit sweeter.

I'm so glad you loved it. If you loved reward round in Canto I, you will not be disappointed with reward round in Canto II. You may like it even more I think!

And there is a lot more footage of Anjelica in the world than Nancey, she makes the perfect protagonist for this story because she has such a regal appearance to her on top of being beautiful. And we have used her sparingly to this point because she is to be used in all of the Cantos, so we're not wanting to over expose her to the point of old-hat

-TL

Tittyluvr1334 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:12 pm
I'm so glad you loved it. If you loved reward round in Canto I, you will not be disappointed with reward round in Canto II. You may like it even more I think!

And there is a lot more footage of Anjelica in the world than Nancey, she makes the perfect protagonist for this story because she has such a regal appearance to her on top of being beautiful. And we have used her sparingly to this point because she is to be used in all of the Cantos, so we're not wanting to over expose her to the point of old-hat

-TL

Awesome! And thanks for clearing everything up for me.

Definitely looking forward to it more now.

Also, the preview screen caps posted in this thread are very enticing.

I like pic25 on page 2 of this thread. The way her boobs lay on her chest when she's lying down... Her boobs look so soft, natural and grabbable..

I also like pic38 on page 3 of this thread. Anjelica looks exceptionally beautiful here, the shape of her face and her eyes... And her lips look amazing. Definitely looking forward to getting to know Anjelica better, as well as receiving her numerous gifts.

sorry, I'm confused ... what's the ETA on this project? was there an update that I missed recently when i was off-line? my bad ...

I speak for myself, but probably also a few other people : i don't think you should tease like that, especially for that long when you don't know when it's gonna be ready. That just builds up expectation and frustration.

I have no doubt the project will be good, however i don't think the communication strategy is a good one. To be honest I don't even check the thread anymore to read updates because i already know that until I see a big [RELEASE] on the front page it will just be delays, delays, delays.
I may sound like an entitled prick for saying that, but i'd prefer you didn't tease at all, or just made a small announcement that a sequel is in preparation, then radio silence until it releases.

I've said it before, but i guess not everyone agrees. Also, now the expectations are so high (for me and a lot of people as i've seen in this thread), that if the quality is slightly lacking we will ask ourselves "all of this wait for THIS ?".

That's why i thought it's a dangerous communication strategy to adopt. But if people like to hear every two weeks how you're always "2 hrs of work close to finishing this thing" then good for you for liking this transparency.

Anyways, i'm sure i'll change my mind when it finally releases...

redno wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:27 pm i don't think you should tease like that, especially for that long when you don't know when it's gonna be ready. That just builds up expectation and frustration.

Trust me - it wasn't initially sent as a tease, and was never my intent to string this along. When I made the post initially four months ago, I was under the impression we would be done in a month. I only continued because there was enough interested in having occasional updates and screenposts. I wouldn't have proceeded had there been no warm reception at all to it.

redno wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:27 pm I have no doubt the project will be good, however i don't think the communication strategy is a good one. To be honest I don't even check the thread anymore to read updates because i already know that until I see a big [RELEASE] on the front page it will just be delays, delays, delays.

I don't know how your comments got here if you never check the page, so you'll probably not see my response. Nonetheless.
Your opinion is noted and is a logical one that I do understand.

redno wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:27 pm I may sound like an entitled prick for saying that, but i'd prefer you didn't tease at all,

It does, but I get it. I can totally understand how that can lead to frustration.

redno wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:27 pm
I've said it before, but i guess not everyone agrees. Also, now the expectations are so high (for me and a lot of people as i've seen in this thread), that if the quality is slightly lacking we will ask ourselves "all of this wait for THIS ?".

That's been my concern too! Causing a lot of second guessing and redos to make sure that it's perfect. How weird that it just perpetuates the issue.

redno wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:27 pm That's why i thought it's a dangerous communication strategy to adopt. But if people like to hear every two weeks how you're always "2 hrs of work close to finishing this thing" then good for you for liking this transparency.

Trust me - we've learned our lesson and will adjust accordingly.

With that in mind - big announcement

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We MAY do another video, and IF we do, we WILL do it and release it some time before we die.

redno wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:27 pm Anyways, i'm sure i'll change my mind when it finally releases...

I do truly hope so - that we can win back fans and support of those that this 4 month delay has disenfranchised.

BB started working on the final beatmeters for the 5 reels. He finished 2 of them yesterday between his busy work schedule (which is scheduled to continue until end of Sept.) He is trying to get the last three done in between shifts. Raga already has the beats for those first two and assembling them/rendering them for final release. Once those three are back from BB, that will be the final piece. My job at this point will just be to make sure the finished product didn't get FUBAR during the rendering. I will then upload to PornHub, and provide a link for direct download (like MEGA), and then hopefully someone can create a Torrent. Then after BB's schedule softens, I'll ask him to do the E-Stim track.

I know everyone has waited a long time and for that, Virgo has a message for you:

May I just say that it is always a pleasure to read polite and respectful conversations on the internet. I applaud everyone involved.

redno wrote:I speak for myself, but probably also a few other people : i don't think you should tease like that, especially for that long when you don't know when it's gonna be ready. That just builds up expectation and frustration.

I have no doubt the project will be good, however i don't think the communication strategy is a good one. To be honest I don't even check the thread anymore to read updates because i already know that until I see a big [RELEASE] on the front page it will just be delays, delays, delays.
I may sound like an entitled prick for saying that, but i'd prefer you didn't tease at all, or just made a small announcement that a sequel is in preparation, then radio silence until it releases.

I've said it before, but i guess not everyone agrees. Also, now the expectations are so high (for me and a lot of people as i've seen in this thread), that if the quality is slightly lacking we will ask ourselves "all of this wait for THIS ?".

That's why i thought it's a dangerous communication strategy to adopt. But if people like to hear every two weeks how you're always "2 hrs of work close to finishing this thing" then good for you for liking this transparency.

Anyways, i'm sure i'll change my mind when it finally releases...

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I am excited to see this when it comes out, last video was pretty well made. Hope your schedules work out.

Please don't let the haters discourage you. The majority of us are eagerly, yet patiently waiting. I'm sure I speak for the majority of those who follow this thread when I say that we do not agree with Capt. Douche Bag. He doesn't seem to understand that you are not just a few guys living in moms basement like he is. You have jobs, families, and lives. We appreciate your labor of love and if it wouldn't grossly violate copyright laws, we would gladly pay for your videos. Shit happens, sometimes all you can do is grab your board and surf the shit until low tide.

Jhixster wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:30 pm Please don't let the haters discourage you. The majority of us are eagerly, yet patiently waiting. I'm sure I speak for the majority of those who follow this thread when I say that we do not agree with Capt. Douche Bag. He doesn't seem to understand that you are not just a few guys living in moms basement like he is. You have jobs, families, and lives. We appreciate your labor of love and if it wouldn't grossly violate copyright laws, we would gladly pay for your videos. Shit happens, sometimes all you can do is grab your board and surf the shit until low tide.

Yep. Normal people know how to wait.
"Davay, davay!" Keep it up!

Echo sentiments that you shouldn't let people get you discouraged. The quality of work you guys are doing here should only be commended.

I just wish I could swap out Anjelica for Janice/Charon, as I still find it nigh impossible to choose the former when I replay Canto 1. ;p

Looking much forward to the release - the first one was awesome and this promises to be even better.

Haven't looked into what the haters thing is all about, but that sounds just silly.

Yep. Canto was if not the first CH I ever tried when I was wondering what the heck this thing is, at least the first one to leave a lasting impression. It took several tries to get through it. I don’t even care all that much about the RPG part of it, and I don’t bother tracking xp and stuff, but the editing, beat patterns and content – really the whole package, was so good that I still go back and revisit it off and on. If the new one is in the same league, then I’m happy to wait until it’s done, rather than get something rushed. That said, ironically enough, I can’t wait to see it. :)

I really do feel like the first Canto was something really really special. I feel like it's where art, porn, music, writing, and interactive gameplay come to together to make an incredible experience, topped off with an incredible reward round. I figure I'll be using the first Canto and this Canto for the next few years if not 10 years.

I'm pretty sure as long as the girl selection is on point and nothing too freaky happens in Canto II I'll be quite happy with it.

If for some reason Canto II doesn't work for me, there's always Canto I, but I have a feeling Canto II will be quite good.

I have no doubt a lot of work went into the first Canto and a lot of work has already been put into Canto II.

I'm very appreciative of all the hard work of the Erosphere team. I have quite a lot of trust in the Erosphere team after experiencing the first Canto, and if they say it's not ready, it's not ready. That being said, it will be a glorious day when Canto II is released.

flyer47 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:53 am I really do feel like the first Canto was something really really special. I feel like it's where art, porn, music, writing, and interactive gameplay come to together to make an incredible experience, topped off with an incredible reward round. ... [snip] ...I'm very appreciative of all the hard work of the Erosphere team. I have quite a lot of trust in the Erosphere team after experiencing the first Canto, and if they say it's not ready, it's not ready. That being said, it will be a glorious day when Canto II is released.

My sentiments, too. Please get on with the finishing of Canto II some time before I retire, thanks.