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Posted: **Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:33 pm**

nomeuno wrote:the fact that the site seems to be steering toward a gay environment.
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As we are witnessing more gay men and bisexuals joining the group and writing teases

Just because I'm curious... What makes you say that? Only thing I can think of is that there's been one or two people who have posted that they're bisexual. But I haven't really noticed any of this influencing teases in any way.

Posted: **Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:53 pm**

nomeuno wrote:The "ONLY" problem i have with that, is that "webteases" stem from a typical D/s relationship. And generally that is F/m.

LOL! I'm not sure where you get this idea from, other than pornography. From my experience in munch groups and clubs, the vast majority of D/s relationships are M/f. And to add to this, the term "D/s" was originated in the Gay Leather Community in the 1960s. So I think you're talking out of your ass.

As for there being bi and gay men here... there are no bi or gay teases (other than for women), so what are you complaining about? Even if there were it wouldn't be a problem... since Day 1 this site has been for everyone, not just you. That's why there is an option for "male-top" in the tease tag editor. If you don't like it, don't do it!

Or, if you're too uncomfortable to even talk to a bi man on a forum... then I'm sorry, this site is not and has never been for you. dark and seraph0x have made it very clear this site is accepting of all types.

Posted: **Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:12 pm**

deviant1 wrote:And why are most of the teases written by men? And why do other hetro men get off on reading stories written by other men? How can a really hetro man get off on a story, and it's not really a story, it's more of an active participant story, how can such a man get so consumed by something he KNOWS was written by TrailerDave, slumped over his computer, drooling tobacco juice into his budwiser, with his rottwiler licking his balls??? I just don't get it.

I totally can get into thinking of Susi, who has written a tease telling me to do gosh knows what..cause I know it's her. Of course, I don't really know it's her, but at least if she uses a female name, I can lie to myself.

Deviant,

I think you are missing the point. This is a Tease and Denial site, all of the teases deal with this topic with other genres thrown in for variety. Why would it matter the gender of the author? A tease is a tease is a tease. The fantasy is in your head when doing an online tease, so the author's gender is irrelevant. The only time gender would come into play is when you are playing in person.

The way I see it, much as in life... heterosexual, homosexual, it is the same game only different players. In either situation, feelings, love, and the usual relationship ups and downs exist. The same is true with the teases. A Top is a Top and a Bottom is a Bottom whether that top is a Dom or a Domme doesn't change the control they have over the Sub.

Not that it should matter, but so you know where this perspective is deriving from, I am a straight man. Though I really wish I were Bi, as it would instantly double my chances of getting laid.

Keep an open mind,

Posted: **Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:21 pm**

Deviant1,

By chance, do you ever masterbate while watching porn (movies)? Next time you do, I want you to remember that 95% of porn is directed by men, filmed by men, written by men (if there's any sort of plot), and produced by men. Even the basic concept behind the porn, whether or not to make it all anal or a domination themed movie, or even what girls are in it, is mostly decided on by a man.

I don't see how this is different than the teases here. A guy chooses the plot, the girls, and any type of story just like in the movie.

And if you can't get your mind into the fantasy when reading teases, well then, that's just a bummer for you. There's a ton of great stories and fantasies here to enjoy.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:20 am**

Mr.Panty wrote:Deviant1,

By chance, do you ever masterbate while watching porn (movies)? Next time you do, I want you to remember that 95% of porn is directed by men, filmed by men, written by men (if there's any sort of plot), and produced by men. Even the basic concept behind the porn, whether or not to make it all anal or a domination themed movie, or even what girls are in it, is mostly decided on by a man.

Yes, sometimes I do *blush*. Opps, you weren't talking to me.

Mr.Panty wrote: I don't see how this is different than the teases here. A guy chooses the plot, the girls, and any type of story just like in the movie.

And if you can't get your mind into the fantasy when reading teases, well then, that's just a bummer for you. There's a ton of great stories and fantasies here to enjoy.

Very well said on that point.

On the other of women being available in the forum to actually tease that way... I think people just need to share the link with women they may meet on the wonderful www. I have a feeling that some guys might be slightly embarrassed to pass the link to a woman. They have to know you are here to cum visit ;)

I found the link in when it was posted in a yahoo group that consists of all men. I have never seen it posted somewhere where women may hang out.

Nikki

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:36 pm**

texturedshroom wrote:
nomeuno wrote:The "ONLY" problem i have with that, is that "webteases" stem from a typical D/s relationship. And generally that is F/m.
LOL! I'm not sure where you get this idea from, other than pornography. From my experience in munch groups and clubs, the vast majority of D/s relationships are M/f. And to add to this, the term "D/s" was originated in the Gay Leather Community in the 1960s. So I think you're talking out of your ass.
Are you sure that i'm talkin out my ass? i wrote the motherfuckin book on D/s and T&D. Are you sure this isn't generally a Domme sub type thing? hmm... you should check youreself before you wreck yourself

Would you care to recant this post? http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=3084

As for there being bi and gay men here... there are no bi or gay teases (other than for women), so what are you complaining about? Even if there were it wouldn't be a problem... since Day 1 this site has been for everyone, not just you. That's why there is an option for "male-top" in the tease tag editor. If you don't like it, don't do it!

Umm... i think your count is wrong here.... i think she male, cocksuckin and cum gobbling all fall into a Gay or Bisexual category.... again check yourself.

Or, if you're too uncomfortable to even talk to a bi man on a forum... then I'm sorry, this site is not and has never been for you. dark and seraph0x have made it very clear this site is accepting of all types.

This site is what from day what? You joined when on day when?

Yes check yourself before you wreck yourself. Who's ass are we talkin out of again?

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:20 pm**

nomeuno wrote: Are you sure that i'm talkin out my ass? i wrote the motherfuckin book on D/s and T&D.

Lol. LOL. I'm pretty sure the Marquis de Sade wrote the book on D/s... hundreds of years ago... and by the way, his books were F/m.

Are you sure this isn't generally a Domme sub type thing? hmm... you should check youreself before you wreck yourself

Would you care to recant this post? http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=3084

That says there are more male dominants than female dominants...

Umm... i think your count is wrong here.... i think she male, cocksuckin and cum gobbling all fall into a Gay or Bisexual category.... again check yourself.

Sucking on a dildo is not gay or bisexual. Neither is eating your own cum. Just because you're intolerant of other people doesn't mean shit. But there hasn't been a shemale tease in a long time, and there have been dildo and cum-eating teases for ages now.

This site is what from day what? You joined when on day when?

Yes check yourself before you wreck yourself. Who's ass are we talkin out of again?

I've lurked here since it first started. Just because I've only recently been on the forums doesn't mean I haven't been here a while.

I think you should ask dark and seraph0x if this site is accepting of gay and bi men.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:06 am**

dirtyjackau wrote:
nomeuno wrote: This is very well put, however it doesn't address the fact that the site seems to be steering toward a gay environment. The "ONLY" problem i have with that, is that "webteases" stem from a typical D/s relationship. And generally that is F/m. As we are witnessing more gay men and bisexuals joining the group and writing teases we will all make our choices, as many of the Domme Woman appear to have already and either stay or go. If i do go from this site, i will say that it was fun while it lasted, but there goes the neighborhood.
What do you know about what is typical? Is there even a "typical" D/s relationship - I sure as heck doubt it. That it's generally F/m not so sure about that either. Perhaps it's stereotypically that way but that doesn't make it the norm. I certainly don't know for sure but I don't actually care. What bothers me is your attitude.

It's going to sound mean and bitchy and even just a little petty, but heck I don't even care about that IRL:
Ciao, please forget to write.

Jack...

hey grnius... i think you answer your own question in your stupid reply. look up the word typical dipshitjackoff. just keep writin the look at me ones and shut the fuck up

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:06 am**

Darling,

I think you will start to see a lot more women coming... yes that's the word I wanted... here.

Alison

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:08 am**

dirtyjackau wrote:
nomeuno wrote:hey grnius... i think you answer your own question in your stupid reply. look up the word typical dipshitjackoff. just keep writin the look at me ones and shut the fuck up
LOL - you must be so attractive to women when you're all mad

as long as i don't seem attractive to you, i'm ok.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:33 am**

nomeuno wrote:
dirtyjackau wrote:
nomeuno wrote:hey grnius... i think you answer your own question in your stupid reply. look up the word typical dipshitjackoff. just keep writin the look at me ones and shut the fuck up
LOL - you must be so attractive to women when you're all mad

as long as i don't seem attractive to you, i'm ok.

I don't think you have to worry about seeming attractive to anyone the way you've been acting the last few days. ESPECIALLY not women looking for submissive men.

Posted: **Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:33 pm**

nomeuno wrote:
dirtyjackau wrote:
nomeuno wrote:hey grnius... i think you answer your own question in your stupid reply. look up the word typical dipshitjackoff. just keep writin the look at me ones and shut the fuck up
LOL - you must be so attractive to women when you're all mad.

as long as i don't seem attractive to you, i'm ok.

"I don't think you have to worry about seeming attractive to anyone the way you've been acting the last few days. ESPECIALLY not women looking for submissive men."

!

Well if evidence were ever needed that there is far too much testosterone flying around this place, this thread is living proof!

Lets show this thread to girls, maybe they will join out of pity for us all

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:56 am**

Alison wrote:Darling,

I think you will start to see a lot more women coming... yes that's the word I wanted... here.

Alison

Hmm...now this is more like it...thank-you Alison, and all of the other wonderful ladies who have responded and shown some interest in this topic.

I have a question for the ladies if I may...does it turn you on knowing we, the men, are really following your orders or suggestions as we do your teases? In your minds eye, do you imagine us slapping and stroking and edging?? My guess is yes, otherwise, why would you take the time to write them. It excites me even more while I am involved in the tease thinking about you getting off on what I am doing.

Now, same question for the male writers... does it turn you on thinking about the guys doing your teases? Do you close your eyes and imagine them naked in front of their computer? When you write the tease, do you picture your reader as he licks the precum off the tip of his fingers??

If you do, and you claim you're not gay, you might want to spend a little time in self reflection and start to pry that closet door open! Nothing to be ashamed about, it's 2008 for gosh sakes, free yourself!!!!!

And by no means am I suggesting that all of the male writers are homosexual, just trying to understand.

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:53 am**

I am bi, and it still doesn't turn me on thinking of random guys doing my teases. After all I'm a sub first of all, so that wouldn't excite me...and second of all, I'm not attracted to any random guy on the Internet. I'd imagine the latter is true for the female tease writers as well.

Why do I write teases then? Because I want a tease that excites me... and it's hard to find one without making one yourself. I'm glad other people like them too, but it doesn't turn me on.

Why do people get this idea that gay/bi guys are attracted to every guy in the world? It's one of the first signs of ignorance among certain straight people and it's honestly very insulting. Are you attracted to every woman in the world?

Finally--when you are doing a tease, even if it was written by a woman, it is not the author who is teasing you--it is a character created by the author. For all you know the woman writing the tease you do could be 500 pounds and/or have severe body odor (no offense to those who are turned on by that, but you get the idea). Tease authors, even the women, create characters to tease you--they are not teasing you themselves.

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:59 am**

deviant1 wrote: Now, same question for the male writers... does it turn you on thinking about the guys doing your teases? Do you close your eyes and imagine them naked in front of their computer? When you write the tease, do you picture your reader as he licks the precum off the tip of his fingers??

I don't really think about the other guys doing the tease. Usually im just thinking about the mistress im writing about and what I would like her to say/do to me.
I would say its the same for most male tease authors (I dunno I cant see into everyones minds). Im guessing most guys write the teases for themselves, not so they can imagine hundreds of guys jerking off to someting theyve written.

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