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Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:52 pm
by killer1243
Hey! So I played it once and it was fun, I've got a question though.
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- How does saving work? I didn't see a password and since I've opened it in incognito (cuz you know :D) I am not sure how it saves. Btw I got paradise (plot twist: was damnation in the end) then after when I tried starting it it was damnation, I assume this is just how the story works as I didn't see a way to influence it so far but idk. However, even though it was apparently damnation, the ending said i was in paradise, not sure what is going on with that.
P.S. Appreciate the isekai/konosuba reference :D
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:41 pm
by Shattered
jp wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:26 am
First of all I liked the tease on first play but I think this is one where replay is where it will really shine, so can't wait to do that.
I have this complaint with almost every Eos tease and I don't know if it's a choice by the author, a fault (feature?) of the viewer, or something else. My complaint is that when the blinking arrow is at the end of a line of text the behavior isn't consistent. Sometimes you
have to click to advance the text and other times it'll automatically advance on it's own.
In my opinion clicking should only ever need to be done when it's obvious. Most notably on a button.
I felt there was way too much need for me to "click" in this tease and I don't know if I just wasn't patient enough waiting for text to advance or if it was designed that way. This also threw off the pacing of the tease for me. I really felt like there were points where I could click to advance the text where I was meant to wait on it.
Also...
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- The ending I got was a bit confusing. I was in Paradise with Stella but I don't feel like I "finished" it. I chose the option for Ruined Orgasm earlier and so I got the twist in that regards and got the Damnation end. But the credits section said that I had also completed Paradise so it gave me the survey for having completed both endings.
doyouevenodd wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:30 pm
I have this complaint with almost every Eos tease and I don't know if it's a choice by the author, a fault (feature?) of the viewer, or something else. My complaint is that when the blinking arrow is at the end of a line of text the behavior isn't consistent. Sometimes you have to click to advance the text and other times it'll automatically advance on it's own.
I hate this so much. Please please please, if I have to click I want to see a button.
TLDR in Eos there are several options. Auto is the most common which for talking will require a click. You can set it to various things - I try to avoid the wait one personally. It can be instant but issue is with how much text appears in different size screens, browsers etc. If it all appeared instantly, I could make it work fine for my 1920x1080 desktop, but then it might require a lot of scrolling on mobile, which might result in an accidental click... Like if you play on mobile and I made all the text instant it would be more or less unplayable. Pressing lets it stay all on the screen at once. You can set it to continue after X seconds...but then everyone has a different reading speed!
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- There was a bug that I thought I fixed relating to the extra message popping up...
jp wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:48 pm
Oh, just remembered something else. There are a few places where the text advances so fast it's impossible to read it all before it's gone. Is that intentional?
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- Some places, yes, where I wanted to give the impression that they spoke too fast for you to hear, or they dont want you to - or if it's purple text that has a mind of it's own. So depends in the area.
jp wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:07 pm
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- Is it possible to get Carla's soul? Is there something non-obvious you have to do to get it?
It seems to me that the Vestria path fails after you get XO's soul. The next time you start the tease it seems that Vestria is back on her default first play routine. That is, she asks for your soul but tells you she can't have it without something to trade for.
I believe that since Vestria seems to be 'reset' here, that the path to get Carla's soul is broken as a result.
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- It should be. I thought I'd fixed this but a few people have reported it so I've no idea why it's not working...issue with storage is it lets me do things like this but it seems to be a bit tricky! I'll have a look.
killer1243 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:52 pm
Hey! So I played it once and it was fun, I've got a question though.
- Spoiler: show
- How does saving work? I didn't see a password and since I've opened it in incognito (cuz you know :D) I am not sure how it saves. Btw I got paradise (plot twist: was damnation in the end) then after when I tried starting it it was damnation, I assume this is just how the story works as I didn't see a way to influence it so far but idk. However, even though it was apparently damnation, the ending said i was in paradise, not sure what is going on with that.
P.S. Appreciate the isekai/konosuba reference :D
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- Yeah saving doesnt work incognito at all - I suggest using a separate web browser for porn without an obvious shortcut anywhere :P At the start of the tease its 50/50 where you go so you can go to both without storage, but you wont be able to see the extra stuff that makes use of it I think. And while she said you were in Paradise...a demon can give you false hope and lie yknow ;)
And I had konosuba in mind yup ^^
dianafern1939 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:05 am
Great tease by the way. loved all of your teases.
Possible bug
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- I'm in damnation with Carla when she asks for penis size i type 2 and say it is hard and still 2. I get taken to Stella and an now doing Paradise route again
Thats a bad one. Thanks, fixed it.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:13 pm
by killer1243
Shattered wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:41 pm
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- Yeah saving doesnt work incognito at all - I suggest using a separate web browser for porn without an obvious shortcut anywhere :P At the start of the tease its 50/50 where you go so you can go to both without storage, but you wont be able to see the extra stuff that makes use of it I think. And while she said you were in Paradise...a demon can give you false hope and lie yknow ;)
And I had konosuba in mind yup ^^
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- I mean the endcard for the survey says I was in Paradise.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:48 pm
by Pumpkin
I tried it now and have to say that i like the EOS teases much more than the FlashTeases.
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- So at the moment the Vestria path is not possible? I got the same Problemes that its reset after i got XO soul.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:35 pm
by Shattered
killer1243 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:13 pm
Shattered wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:41 pm
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- Yeah saving doesnt work incognito at all - I suggest using a separate web browser for porn without an obvious shortcut anywhere :P At the start of the tease its 50/50 where you go so you can go to both without storage, but you wont be able to see the extra stuff that makes use of it I think. And while she said you were in Paradise...a demon can give you false hope and lie yknow ;)
And I had konosuba in mind yup ^^
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- I mean the endcard for the survey says I was in Paradise.
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- Ooh right do you mean that Xo says your actually in damnation then the survey says Paradise? Right maybe a tad confusing but thats the representation of Paradise so thats what I call it. It is the Paradise route and the other is the Damnation route
Pumpkin wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:48 pm
I tried it now and have to say that i like the EOS teases much more than the FlashTeases.
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- So at the moment the Vestria path is not possible? I got the same Problemes that its reset after i got XO soul.
I've done a temporary fix for this. I can't for the life of me figure out what is wrong with the storage, so...
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- I've made it so to access Vestria you can do both at once, one after the other, then it'll trigger a regular variable (which I'm confident in how they work) and you can go through that path all at once. I may come up with a fix, but until then..
go password -> admin -> usersoul toggle to YES, then start the tease and you can go down this route.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:49 pm
by Shattered
I say I'm writing sexy teases, but really
If I can write something and somebody enjoys the trolley problem the most, ever I've created
exactly what I wanted, or it's really bad and interesting philosophy is the only thing that can salvage it
Thanks for all the feedback, polls have had a lot of response and been good to read through. Plus 600 ratings already is really sweet especially when they add up to so high. Hopefully the bugs are all in order now
All the comments mean a lot to me, both positive and critical. Just wanted to show this one, had a few in a similar vein
EDIT: Patch note
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- Lowered virtue requirement for Paradise. I wanted it to be one above the average to 'succeed' and I got it right for damnation but Paradise was a little steep.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:54 pm
by Unnamed_007
I've had the same issues with the text.
Sometimes it was waiting for me to click and I had no idea, and sometimes it would go on its own without me having to click. It really threw me off and made it so I couldn't focus on the story.
I'm not sure how EOS works exactly but maybe make it more clear when you need to click, and when you need to wait, because as it stands, those two blend together. I've had times when I was supposed to click and I was waiting there for 30-45 seconds thinking it was a timer, and times when it was a timer and I found myself clicking, which once again killed immersion.
I think this is the first time I can't really get into a work of yours, and it's a shame.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:33 pm
by Shattered
Unnamed_007 wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:54 pm
I've had the same issues with the text.
Sometimes it was waiting for me to click and I had no idea, and sometimes it would go on its own without me having to click. It really threw me off and made it so I couldn't focus on the story.
I'm not sure how EOS works exactly but maybe make it more clear when you need to click, and when you need to wait, because as it stands, those two blend together. I've had times when I was supposed to click and I was waiting there for 30-45 seconds thinking it was a timer, and times when it was a timer and I found myself clicking, which once again killed immersion.
I think this is the first time I can't really get into a work of yours, and it's a shame.
If I recall correctly most of the non-purple text should be a click... I'd just kinda assume everything is :) Some might be auto because i want to simulate a character saying stuff fast but click is 99% the default.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:47 pm
by killer1243
So I encountered a problem:
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- After giving up my soul I then picked Damnation, however I had to close my browser before finishing it. After I started it again today it sent me to the first Damnation (before giving up my soul and everything). Is there a way to fix this?
Here is a print of the variables idk if it helps:
Soul : soul
userSoul: no
userParadise : undefined
userDamnation: yes
name : name
userName: undefined
Virtue: 0
Cum: 0
userCum: undefined
fix12 damnation
userFix12 yes
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:13 pm
by Shattered
killer1243 wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:47 pm
So I encountered a problem:
- Spoiler: show
- After giving up my soul I then picked Damnation, however I had to close my browser before finishing it. After I started it again today it sent me to the first Damnation (before giving up my soul and everything). Is there a way to fix this?
Here is a print of the variables idk if it helps:
Soul : soul
userSoul: no
userParadise : undefined
userDamnation: yes
name : name
userName: undefined
Virtue: 0
Cum: 0
userCum: undefined
fix12 damnation
userFix12 yes
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- Set userSoul to yes and userParadise to Paradise, youll go through damnation then be taken to paradise
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:07 pm
by doyouevenodd
Unnamed_007 wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:54 pm
Sometimes it was waiting for me to click and I had no idea, and sometimes it would go on its own without me having to click. It really threw me off and made it so I couldn't focus on the story.
I'm not sure how EOS works exactly but maybe make it more clear when you need to click, and when you need to wait, because as it stands, those two blend together. I've had times when I was supposed to click and I was waiting there for 30-45 seconds thinking it was a timer, and times when it was a timer and I found myself clicking, which once again killed immersion.
Yea this is the main reason I don't like EOS. It really needs to be fixed.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:24 am
by xman911
Hi. This tease is really good... but about 40 minutes into the tease it just stopped working. I don't know what exactly happened but it just froze. I think there is some bug in the tease.
It was showing this image when froze:
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Also I think the internal link to the image was this:
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blob:null/06864035-4c0f-459c-9960-c7ed079b614f
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:52 pm
by Shattered
xman911 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:24 am
Hi. This tease is really good... but about 40 minutes into the tease it just stopped working. I don't know what exactly happened but it just froze. I think there is some bug in the tease.
It was showing this image when froze:
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Also I think the internal link to the image was this:
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blob:null/06864035-4c0f-459c-9960-c7ed079b614f
Hi, any more info? Brought up all the pages with that link and don't see any issues...
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- to get back to where you were click password->pageno->zzdamn33 (I think)
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:23 pm
by dousque
After my first playthrough: great, thanks! I appreciate what you do very much.
Re: Before Eternity - Feedback Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:25 pm
by Lirven
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I did the survey before playing it again. Let's just say that I got to the point where I had the password.
The Damnation part was fun, the Paradise one, I don't know, I didn't like it that much. The character/story felt a little bit inconsistent.
I'll try to be honest and objective, going through everything again, with it being almost exactly the same except for a few sentences and the outcome of different choices felt a little bit boring to the point that I just skipped cumming at the end.
Anyway the effort is surely there and the tease is good enough.
Let's just say I would have preferred more variance. Hope you don't mind my critics.
Thank you!