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Turbid1218 wrote: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:46 pm

john.henry.144 wrote: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:42 pm I would encourage creators to try breaking free of the tyranny of the money shot, especially if you’re interested in making videos suitable for women or hetero couples. For myself, an all creampie reward round would be much hotter. I’d like to try my hand at some Cock Hero short films if I can find the time, so maybe I’ll be able to find out how difficult that constraint is to deal with soon.

Yeah, that’s how I feel too. Seems like some unexplored creative space.

Wasn’t there one that did all creampies? I might be remembering wrong. Anyway, those can be hot too, so might be something to give a go next time. :)

I also find facials to be a bit of a turnoff. Watching the girl cum or a creampie definitely do it for me. I also rewind to the 'good parts' after facial endings.

My guess on why porn -- whether cock-hero compilations, or just your usual porn shoots by professional studios -- often ends in facial-cum-shots ...

It has all the necessary elements, to make sure that the largest possible number of viewer "needs" is met. Those elements include:

• The pretty girl's face (and a good deal of her body, usually) is visible.
• The girl is servicing the man, making it appear that his pleasure is her job to bring about.
• The completion for the male is "proven" by the presence of a visual ejaculation.

Generally, I suspect that most studios could make as sure, including all the above elements, with a show of female-completion-hand-jobs which nevertheless did NOT cause the cum to land on a girl's face (examples include splash on tits, just squirt across the room, squirt on another girl's tits or ass, etc.). But there's one more element that SOME males wish for, an element which, I suspect, the porn studios think is more prevalent in male desires than it probably actually is:

• The woman is mildly demeaned and disrespected. Thus, the male has "dominated" her somewhat.

My belief is that people who MAKE porn, think that men who WATCH porn, want to dominate women, more than men who actually DO watch porn, want to feel dominant over women. This discrepancy (between producers', and end-users', perception of end-users' actual preferences) demonstrates a type of prejudice on the part of the producers. THEY like demeaning women (they've entered a business which, traditionally and "culturally" ((whether this is true or not)) is seen to be designed to profit off of the act of being demeaning toward females) so they assume MOST MEN like demeaning women.

To me, this misunderstanding is rather over-the-top, as though the porn producers were almost deliberately propagating an increased desire to demean women. As a case in point, I suggest, the prevalence of male-jerking that includes a cum-on-face finish, is really unreasonably high. Given the option between (a) females jacking a cock off onto their own tits, or (b) the male taking his own cock out of the female's hands, and jacking it off so that it cums onto her face, I wonder why studios consistently seem to choose (b) over (a). The performance of (b) is almost homosexual -- let's all watch a guy pleasure himself! -- whereas the performance of (a) is entirely heterosexual and also provides almost all the same elements as (b). But for some reason, porn studios prefer (b) over (a) anyway. This suggests to me, that the element of facial targeting is more important to the producers even than the element of heterosexuality! They're really getting that one wrong, at least for MY personal preferences. It hints, in this analysis of mine, at a really dark view of the end-users' interests, as perceived by the producers. I think a lot more vanilla users are out there, who would appreciate less of the demeaning non-hetero, and more of the non-demeaning hetero, if you get my drift. Of course, it's entirely possible that the male whack-off (he jerks his own dick) isn't viewed as homosexual by many users; maybe that's just an objection based on my own predilections. Nevertheless, you do have to admit, there's something exciting about a woman causing a man to finish, whether or not you consider that a man finishing for himself is homo or just mainstream. And that's an excitement, a titillation, which the porn producers often forego with nary a second thought. There she is, right next to his dick, already prepared to cause him to ejaculate, and yet they don't really seem to care that the opportunity to film that action is regularly foregone.

Honestly, I think the main reason the guys usually finish themselves off is that by the time they get to that point, they’re numb enough that they have to do it themselves. It’s a lot harder for a woman to get a guy off by hand or mouth than for him to just wank it out.

I agree with both of those points. The rehabilitation of James Deen speaks to book_guy's point. I prefer studios like Hegre and Nubile Films which at least give the appearance of being interested in female pleasure. Their porn is hotter to me than the run of the mill stuff, though I should really put my money where my mouth is.

As for the purely practical reasons for hard jacking off that 3xTripleXXX is referring to, I wish I could find the picture of a male porn star trying to get his erection down with a cold can of Coke. It took me a long time to understand how unrealistic it is to maintain an iron rod for an hour unless you're willing to put a needle in your cock. There should be more cock rings in straight porn. They are so damn helpful but it didn't occur to me to try them for years. Porn will always be fantasy to a certain degree but that's an element which could stand to be more realistic.

https://www.thefix.com/content/keeping-it-porn-industry

Agreed, facials do nothing for me. I prefer creampies, (and not the ones were only the tip is barely inside). Since this is were the semen actually has a purpose

Heh, funny ain't it, how our predilections differ. Case in point, although I agree generally with the points made by you guys just immediately subsequent to my previous post, I frankly find the visual appearance of "cream pies" disgusting and a huge turn-off. In fact, LOOKING at any cum-play often is for me the opposite of sexual. So, although IN THEORY it would make sense, if you were to adhere to my previous points, to also conclude that an in-vaginal cream-pie image SHOULD be my preferred turn-on, nevertheless in practice I find that particular image to be a turn-off instead. Just the way my personal cookie crumbles ...

I agree with this topic and hope to start seeing anything else. Getting someone's face painted by a guy finishing himself is just bad for me, but that probably has been a big thing sometime and probably it's been calculated to boost sales the most.

If I ruled the world..

I'd rather have the girl finish the guy off however she decides to, or decides not to
I'd rather have a girl be finished off, instead of the guy :D
I'd rather watch anything else that the generic jacking oneself off on someone's face.

The ONLY exception to this, is that if somehow the girl ACTUALLY wants it on her, and is somehow totally magically hot (I got the image of Stoya smirking and finishing the guy off on purpose, as example) and she causes it to happen and not the guy Sorry about the pics, but we're having a real moment here!

.. and as a real example of what I actually meant, inside the spoiler:

Spoiler: show

Stoya looking like "Oh, you couldn't handle me anymore and had to finish? Aww that's a shame!"

This actually tells me a story that she's in control here. Yes, it's a shame he's touching himself but I guess this is the best we can do right now xD

+1 for Stoya’s Hysterical Literature session though. That stuff was fucking amazing. The others were good too.

Turbid1218 wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:32 pm From the perspective of a straight male...

A lot of Cock Hero videos seem to end with you being told to cum to a series of women getting facials. I get that this is a porn industry standard, something of a "coda" that defines many genres, but it feels like a lack of imagination to me. CH videos are defined by the unique touch of the creator, so why do many creators default to something we see in almost *every single* porn video?

Beyond that though, I just prefer to orgasm while watching something with more "action." A lot of these facial shots are more focused on the dick, while the women are just passively sitting there (oftentimes not seeming to enjoy it, which is pretty understandable TBH). I suppose it might be tricky to distinguish the "cum" portion of a CH video from the rest without using a series of facials?

At any rate, I realize a lot of this is subjective...perhaps I'm in the minority here.

How a kind and attractive post to read, how an interesting thread to enjoy and reply.

Thank you.

As a "porn producer" and a director I can relate and approve the "monotony" on facials. It´s wanted by the masses and in the end of the day, in most cases and most of the time, masses pay the bills in this market conditions.

My scenes are mostly related with candid style upskirt parties, lingerie, twerking, 3-4-5 girls (sometimes more) parties, and or a few times also about again many girls 1 guy handjobs.

The lingerie style panty fetish, ass shaking parties are great, I like them. I want to sell them to produce more of them. To sell them I need to reach people. To reach people I need to use Tube sites as they control like half of the internet, now (in this matter)

There are other ways, the other half but that´s also related with this and I will not explain that here now as it would take much more words and time for me and for you, too.

On Tube sites soft things like my works are easily got down votes and or reach less people in watch time, as majority of the people are there to jerk off, cum quickly (like in 8 minutes) and when they see 3 or more girls in 1 frame, in 1 thumbnail I assume they click on it to cum on their faces immediately.

OK, I came fast.. to this point.

1) The cumming on the face is the final as the face is the main communication point for most of the human kind. We use it to relate, we use it to see ourselves, we see from it, we see through it. We look for faces (and also try to find the eyes) on the things (live or not).

2) Why? We must reproduce. To reproduce you must find other kind, you initiate an intercourse with him or her and your genes must continue with the next of you. We are programmed to do it no matter what religion, no matter what body type no matter how we are outgoing or shy or no matter what fetishes we have or not.

THUS: I cum to her face.

My Cumming on her face: means, I see and communicate, I´m in my comfort zone and I live, I experience myself and I exist, ALSO, I´m reproducing, I bring myself, my genes into the next, I pay my due to be sent on this planet, I pay my due to be alive. There is no more pain as I do what is expected from me and what I programmed to do here while I´m living.

For many, majority, this is the meaning of life.

They are looking for this. For their mirror brain cells to move when they masturbate / relate / cum, to experience this. So that they watch that kind of things, hardcore, more this more that, they demand it, we produce it to sell as we have to sell to survive and reproduce, too.

For many, this is the way to be, as you check the stats, facts, figures, on traffic, watch times, tube sites, other type of stats and numbers about the use of internet, social media, tube sites and monopolies around.

For the rest, like you and me, it´s not.

Well, I exist too, but I cum on her curtains. Ya know?

Until i know and saw.. only JAV videos have something called "creampie" that is eyaculate inside her without use condom. and only a few of them, not all videos. and even a lot of them are censored.

book_guy wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:29 am Well, I exist too, but I cum on her curtains. Ya know?

hahahah .. OK.. better than the ceiling fan, I guess..

So ... that is a very interesting thread to read through. Actually a lot more interesting than what I thought when I saw the caption. I thought it was about why general porn videos end with that in most cases, and I guess we all know why. book_guy drew the psychological picture quite good (like the "prove it was done" part) and leon concluded that money (and therefore the will of the masses) is what drives the production.
I also want to add here that I would like to see more variety in cockhero endings - most are not driven by the will to make money anyway - so the options listed on the first page sound really interesting. I have to say, having to hold an edge for a minute while watching a girl cum really made some videos difficult for me (Stroker Ace 3 comes to mind).

This is however, for me at least, not a black or white thing. One of my ex-girlfriends really loved facials. She was standing in front of the mirror after it every time, admiring it, playing with it, asking me if I can take a picture. There are girls that like it, love it.
Another girlfriend kept asking me to cum on this or that part of hers, while not feeling too confident about those. I guess she felt like cumming on a specific body part can also be a sign of love or liking. It is like dedicating that spike of your adrenaline to that part of her body. This may also translate to a degree to girls who like facials privately, signifying they are beautiful. Just a guess. That is not the case for the girl mentioned before though - she was 'just' dirty.

So, my 5 cents are ... I will still not downvote any video that ends with facials, but I'd love to see some diversity there.