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Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. i have faith in CruelNatalie to live up to Her name

i just hope there are options rather than a one for all. Some of the stuff mentioned here sounds great, but other stuff i wouldnt be into. i'm sure many are the same.

axlist wrote:Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. i have faith in CruelNatalie to live up to Her name

i just hope there are options rather than a one for all. Some of the stuff mentioned here sounds great, but other stuff i wouldnt be into. i'm sure many are the same.

that will be the real challenge. There are levels, however many assignments based on that level. I guess you have to be willing to have an open mind. Also do remember this is a femdom orgasm control program. You earn everything- every stroke, every edge, every squirt. You give us control over your cock. You really need to keep an open mind and trust in the process. Saying "No, I don't want to." pretty much contradicts the dynamic

CruelNatalie wrote:

axlist wrote:Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. i have faith in CruelNatalie to live up to Her name

i just hope there are options rather than a one for all. Some of the stuff mentioned here sounds great, but other stuff i wouldnt be into. i'm sure many are the same.

that will be the real challenge. There are levels, however many assignments based on that level. I guess you have to be willing to have an open mind. Also do remember this is a femdom orgasm control program. You earn everything- every stroke, every edge, every squirt. You give us control over your cock. You really need to keep an open mind and trust in the process. Saying "No, I don't want to." pretty much contradicts the dynamic

i intend to go into it with an open mind and give You full control. i'd just be reluctant (rather than flat out saying no) towards some activities. Either way, i trust You to come up with something great.

CruelNatalie wrote:

axlist wrote:Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. i have faith in CruelNatalie to live up to Her name

i just hope there are options rather than a one for all. Some of the stuff mentioned here sounds great, but other stuff i wouldnt be into. i'm sure many are the same.

that will be the real challenge. There are levels, however many assignments based on that level. I guess you have to be willing to have an open mind. Also do remember this is a femdom orgasm control program. You earn everything- every stroke, every edge, every squirt. You give us control over your cock. You really need to keep an open mind and trust in the process. Saying "No, I don't want to." pretty much contradicts the dynamic

You could add a limits-functionality to the program where users can enter their "hard limits". I completely agree that there needs to be a high level of open-mindedness from the users side, however some things are just limits. I mean, if someone sets their limits too low then they are just making it less enjoyable for themselves.

Thank you JP that means a lot to me. I am working on it steady and will have a little taste soon. I can't wait to share it even the first stage. I admit that the thought of being able to control so many cocks makes me a little drippy. lol

Thank you for all the ideas and your help. I'm putting some assignments and rewards together now and the programmer is working the reporting feature.

jp wrote: I'm not sure a program like this would be suitable for me due to my strong desire for interaction, however it does have me very curious and I will most likely try it out at the very least. You have a very creative mind and a desirable personality, Natalie, and that's what has me most interested. I really want to see what you put together.

The site and program is free and anyone can do it or get ideas. You have a lot of guys on a budget or no ability to pay for a guided solution. I also want it to be a good resource for couples.

However I would lie if I didn't have motives. Although the information is plainly there for free I offer programs where I directly guide and monitor you. These include daily emails, reporting, yahoo text sessions and even phone calls. So there is a lot of interaction. I offer this now and its very popular. So much so that I have mistresses emailing me all the time asking for help. But when I talk to them I can see that they are not as interested in control as they are the money I know they will not be successful. I am afforded the ability to spend the time doing what I love doing because I've made my passion my business. I am successful at it because I'm good at it. I am strict yet realistic and easy to talk to. I am a demanding but I am not mean.

What we are trying to do is develop a charting system of keeping track and so you can share your progress. Most guys into chastity and orgasm control are exhibitionist. Or the guys who find erotic humiliation hot.

I'll let you know when I'm close.

Hi CruelNatalie,

Sorry I couldn't post this sooner, but I have been gathering my thoughts about this since I saw your original post and been ridiculously busy and unable to get it down in writing. I must admit upon reviewing the other posts that a lot of what I have to say will echo what has already come up, but there will be an original thought or two in here, lol. I just wanted to see if I could be of some use for this.

As far as assignments, something that is great is extended arousal that's strictly mental. After at least a few days in tease and denial, have them put on a CB if possible; or if they don't have one, a pair of tighty whities and their tightest jeans and view porn, no touching. Better than just watching a dvd or something is to send them on a porn scavenger hunt on the web. Something like find me x number of blowjob clips of at least 8 minutes where the cumshot is not in her mouth or on her face at all; no cumshot compilation vids and no clips that are basically handjobs, but blowjobs that use hands at the very end or are ruined or otherwise don't end up with the cum on the girl. Just send them watching porn tube sites looking for something specific and rare and difficult to search for in tags so they need to watch a lot but no touching.

Also good is anything which requires extended slow stroking but no edging allowed. It's conventional wisdom that lots of edging quickly builds frustration, and that's true, but this is very effective over time. Also, to my experience, long drawn out mid-level arousal creates that blue balls feeling somewhat better than mutiple edges. Plus, I think a lot of people havn't done this and it will get in their heads. Also, a great way to drive up the frustration and remind who is boss for the accident prone.

I can think of a couple things which you may file under assignments or punishments, not sure because they're really just tasks to do but they can sort of get into the mind and, as you said in reference to punishment, keep the person focused and encourage to stay in subspace. Basically, anything that gets in their heads by nudging and expanding their boundaries, getting them to do something new to them. I know you know how to do this, the hard part is getting it into a free, auto-generated program for the masses, as everybody's experience and boundaries varies. Perhaps being forced to pick something new to them from a wide ranging list, or something generated based on user inputs upon signup regarding experience and fantasys. Obviously, this requires a lot of honesty, but let's face it, without that the user isn't getting any of the real experience anyway. The simplest form of this may be just to stroke, edge, possibly orgasm to something they really don't have a kink for and don't like. Other things could be easing somebody into anal or public play, or anything else they are going to be thinking about at work: "did I really do that yesterday??" For the novice, simply going out and about with something under their clothes could work such as a CB or cock ring or butt plug or panties etc. Also is stroking, edging, cumming in unpleasant or difficult ways. Put sugar or something else grainy in the lube, get into a wacky uncomfortable position, hands-free fuck the couch or mattress or shower door. Drunken edging can get interesting.

A good punishment for something other than cumming without permission is to fuck up the great orgasm they have been working for. This is most effective with the true goal-oriented T&D enthusiast, always looking to top their personal best denail period. A lot of folks get to the end of a denial period and then have something of a "cummers remorse", thoughts along the lines of "I wonder how far I could've gone, how much more I could've done, but now I'm starting over" this would be especially so if they really weren't near the breaking point or the goal. Obviously, You'll probably want to ruin the orgasm and make them eat the cum. Also, we all know that if we cum every day or several times a week, the orgasms are very mediocre, but one benefit of T&D is that when the orgasm finally arrives, it's awesome. So, if they piss you off, take that from them. Make them have a ruined one or two before it's even been built up enough anyway and now they must start over.

I had an interesting experience some months back when I played Shell's game here on Milo. It involved forcing 10 orgasms in under 12 hours. the first nine had to be ruined and the last could be full. The thing was after the nine, the last felt no better at all than a ruined even though I was free to enjoy. After a night's sleep I tried again to get a good orgasm. I wasn't horny, obviously, but after spending all that time and energy and lube and spunk, I wanted a real orgasm! It was a strange form of frustration. Even several hours after the last of the big ten, an orgasm didn't feel right at all, barely better than a ruined, worse in some ways. It was like she had pre-ruined my orgasms for a couple days! The only way to get a real one was going to be to wait because my body needed to hit some reset button.

As far as punishment/reprimand for unauthorized orgasm, I'm afraid I'm not very creative in that department, especially in terms of something an unsupervised person would need to do. I could talk about lots of mild to moderate CBT stuff but I wouldn't say anything you haven't heard or thought of. Besides, the people who are into it will do it, and those who aren't probably won't. The best thing I can think of has already been suggested, and that is loss of contact with yourself, as the program manager or key holder so to speak. I guess maybe tell them they are on no touch until told otherwise and block their isp addy for whatever time you think is best. That would really suck.

The best motivation to encourage to continue is probably the opposite of that punishment; some contact from you. This could be done to some degree on a pre-arranged, bulk basis. Additional pictures of you, nudity not required. A sweet smile, a stern expression, a foot, a JO salute, a recording of your voice or email with encouragement: hang in there, you can do it, I'm proud of you, do it for me, you doing this for me really amuses and pleases me. That last one is huge for a lot of guys. You could also dictate what porn they use for stroking/edging (or say no porn), then as days in denial increases, they get more choice over that. And of course there's "you can choose to cum today but must ruin and eat it or you can wait until I offer again." I think basically some form of feedback & sense of involvement is encouraging and this could maybe be done in your program to a level acceptable to a lot of people. Also, having a light at the end of the tunnel, in terms of orgasm. That doesn't mean that you can never say "I know today was your scheduled release, but PSYCH! we're going to keep waiting". It just means to keep it orgasm management and control, as opposed to the whole permanent chastity, you're never cumming again genre. Also, I think surprises are a turn on. The unexpected will keep people thinking about the program at odd times and hold their interest.

I think it would help to motivate some people if they knew that if they made it to a full, permitted release; it isn't just going to be one cum and back in denial. Some free time may be nice in between. This needs to not be too long, as getting back on the wagon would be dificult as with a diet; but the potential of earning some freedom can motivate.

I really do hope this has helped. Seems like it's going to be quite a lot of work for you, try to have fun while doing it.

thank you. I'm having a blast and even trying the ideas lol

CruelNatalie wrote:thank you. I'm having a blast and even trying the ideas lol

Trying the ideas?! You mean you've been denying, punishing, and rewarding yourself?

No no, I'm sure you've got some subs doing beta testing. Sorry couldn't resist.

Good luck with the project!

Thank you we are still working on this. The holidays have been crazy and one of my dogs became very sick. I've been really struggling with this. I'll have a link soon. In the meantime my blog link is below and you can subscribe for updates.