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Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:25 pm
by prawndiddy
Petite wrote:
CockHero wrote:reward round that is "unbeatable" cum round
(also, sounds of the original video should be heard easily, if not, music is too loud on top)
+1
+2!

I generally don't enjoy it if the reward round is less intense/hardcore than the last few real rounds, so a handjob/JOI video as the reward is a big downer for me. There are a few super hot and intense HJ/JOI scenes, but they're definitely the exception.

But a flat out triple time for the last round isn't great either. Something with fast beats but still a pattern or rhythm is what I prefer. There are quite a few examples of this but Hardcore 4 comes to mind for me (since I love the series so much). The rest of HC4 is relatively easy, but the last round really speeds up while still having patterns to it.

The tricky part is that you can't please everyone. Some people are most turned on by the scene, some by the scene audio, some by the music, and maybe a few by the beats themselves. I'm most turned on by 2 and 3 in that list, so I "need" to hear the scene and the music has to be up tempo and preferably a little sexy on its own.

Great topic, good luck on your next project. :)

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:07 pm
by Venus
Ah, it's a pity that this topic comes up a bit late for me since I finished my recent production.
But, I hope that you'll still enjoy my attempt of creating a "rewarding" reward round :rolleyes:

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:20 pm
by Eclipse
I normaly never post on this forum, but i wanted to share my opinion or idea here.
People who have seen Cock Hero Mindwarp from laughingkor might remember the bonus round(27:10) in that video. My idea is that that would make an awesome ending round, after you,ve already succeeded the challenge.
A round like that maybe even with that music and maybe even speed up the music at some point, so that it will be unbeatable.
In that bonus round the longer you continue the more points you get which is an extra challenge.

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:37 am
by alchemi183
I prefer a round that is similar (but maybe harder) to the other rounds, but with permission to cum granted. I still like it to be fast paced with pretty quick transitions. I like it to include music. Countdown is optional...but if you include one, make sure to give plenty of notice. For example, in Vidicare's flux dance he tells you you'll be edging in four minutes and then he updates you every minute how much time is left until the last thirty seconds when he updates you pretty much constantly. If you have a countdown, consider doing something similar. Although, if your first release is any indication, I'll probably be near the edge already, so that might not be such a big deal.

A boss round is not my favorite if you just show one girl or scene. I like for there to be more going on, especially in a round where I have permission to cum.

Thanks for asking! :-)

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:40 am
by book_guy
One thing that I noticed as very effective, was to have a voice-over during the final beating background sounds, of a hot chick's voice telling me when I was allowed to finish. Most rounds in most CH videos have thumping sounds going on, but it's only seldom that there is a background voice talking to me and giving me a statement that I must or should do something. In some of the final rounds (I think SuperMokkori does this? IIRC ...) of some of my favorite CH's, there's a sultry voice saying stuff to me about when I can and can't cum. Like that a lot. :w00t:

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:22 am
by supermokkori
I think when born4this introduced the countdown in the reward round of CH: Gracie Glame, I figured most of us, myself included, would be borrowing this great idea. i especially like it if the action and stroke beat rhythms get even more intense (not necessarily triple time speed or what not... just a good mix of intense stroke beats) as the countdown gets closer to the finish.

one idea that Jackal403 introduced (something I've used in Stroker Edge and I think x802snow might be using as well) that I really like is the ability to "choose" your reward girl. Jackal403 did it differently than I did, but the concept is the same: user is shown a clips of the reward girls and choose only to cum after selecting the reward round with that girl. Would like to see other CH creators give this method a try.

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:39 am
by vladimir_bz_lion
Challenging reward round like in "The Flux Dance Project" for e.g.: cum only while looking in her eyes, otherwise ruin it. Or choose girl to cum on her only, otherwise spank your balls etc....

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:42 pm
by Edgemycock
I dig unbeatable cum rounds with lots of cum shots on big tits and asses and pretty faces.

also, there was one CH (I can't remember which) where you got a view of the reward round girls, chose one, then had to edge for every scene until you got to the girl you chose, and cum with her scene, that's up there as one of my favorites.

If you can introduce a little difference or trick, it always goes over well, surprise and innovation are key.

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:30 am
by supermokkori
Edgemycock wrote:also, there was one CH (I can't remember which) where you got a view of the reward round girls, chose one, then had to edge for every scene until you got to the girl you chose, and cum with her scene, that's up there as one of my favorites.
Ahem... <raises hand vigorously> ;-)

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:46 am
by Jackal403
supermokkori wrote:
Edgemycock wrote:also, there was one CH (I can't remember which) where you got a view of the reward round girls, chose one, then had to edge for every scene until you got to the girl you chose, and cum with her scene, that's up there as one of my favorites.
Ahem... <raises hand vigorously> ;-)
Also ahem... <raises hand vigorously> ;-)

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:34 pm
by Nipps
Increasingly difficult cumround that ends up unbeatable and lengthy. Preferably with a bunch of different scenes mashed up. Maybe 20 seconds or so between cuts.

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:43 am
by CN10
I like what supermokkori did with Stroker Ace Challenge - HD Remix. A "boss round" complete with a "countdown" where you follow the onscreen action and fire when the stunt cock does. It really allows you to immerse yourself in the fantasy of covering your favorite porn starlet.

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:52 pm
by grasseagle
Jackal403 wrote:
supermokkori wrote:
Edgemycock wrote:also, there was one CH (I can't remember which) where you got a view of the reward round girls, chose one, then had to edge for every scene until you got to the girl you chose, and cum with her scene, that's up there as one of my favorites.
Ahem... <raises hand vigorously> ;-)
Also ahem... <raises hand vigorously> ;-)
I came here to comment that I enjoyed the multiple chances, multiple scene-specific timers, and opportunity of choice that Venus implemented in Infinite Desire vol.2. I think I'm in good company. :-D The video was created rather recently and there is continuing discussion in its release thread about it:
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 25&t=12348

The edging over multiple scenes, allowing for multiple chances, and opportunity of choice was also well implemented by supermokkori in an earlier video, Stroker Edge - Babes Challenge, and Jackal403 in Hand to Gland Combat, Mission: 02. Each incorporated good use of foreshadowing; supermokkori by having the women that appear in the reward round as the content of the warm-up round, and Jackal403 by showing previews of the reward rounds together before any occurred allowing choice anytime across a 30min period for varied difficulty and preferences.
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 25&t=11540
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 25&t=10003

It's a good model and rather innovative.

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:54 pm
by grasseagle
:-) Lots of ideas/directions... summarizing comments from Sept 3 prior:

Should a reward round be "unbeatable"?
Mixed opinions, but most commenting in favor. Some videos an "unbeatable" ending may not be the the best (noted by lestrian and prawndiddy) particularly if there is a long and slow build-up. Fast patterned beats were also suggested as an alternative to extended double/triple time.

Countdown timers in multiple contexts are favored.
alchemi183 notes increasing reminders preferred as point of cumming nears

Sudden changes in intensity for endings cited as a problem for many.
alchemi183 has noted in context of boss round endings, prawndiddy and drdd2000 in context of jerk off instruction endings, and blondie88 on the "congratulations," "go back and pick your favorite girl," and "cum when you want" ends. These can come as any dimension (visual, scene audio, music, beats).

Choice of scene endings are a exciting concept.
Jackal403, supermokkori, Edgemycock, and grasseagle behind. May be a way to avoid intensity issues with "go back and pick your favorite girl" endings.

Consider masochistic endings using, elements of chance, orgasm denial, and punishment.
waiting, akds1337, psquared, vladimir_bz_lion

The scored bonus round concept used in Mindwarp is ripe for further development.
Eclipse offered ideas.

An end that thrives on empathy with female self-directed pleasure (masturbation with a countdown).
mmi and a call for more is present in this thread:
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 25&t=12454

Extended length reward rounds with increasing difficulty.
Nipps requests. (possibly as Jackal403 may have done with Hand to Gland Combat - Mission 2?)
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic ... 25&t=10003

Re: What is the best way to end a CH?

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:40 am
by the_generic_sn
My recommendation for a good CH ending is to communicate the format ahead of time. I know that if the last round is a boss fight with a girl I'm not into, I'm headed to xHamster no matter how good the rest of it was. If I'm told at the beginning of the video or 10-15 minutes before the end what's going to happen, I can plan accordingly. I hate it when I have to clock watch to find out if it's really the last scene, if it's really a reward round, is this really the last girl, etc.

This works out well for niche genres too because you will know what you're getting into. If you say ahead of time that the ending will involve clothespins clipped onto ball sacs, I can get the hell out while people who enjoy that sort of thing will know that fun times await them.