[Concept] New Cock Hero Stream/Upload Site - Based on Milovana

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Greetings!

I am a senior backend developer from Northern Europe, and I have been a big fan of Cock Hero's for a very long time. I have been lurking Milovana for content for quite a while, but I have decided to get involved since the community here deserves a proper place to upload, archive and stream Cock Heros.

Let's get to the details - I am interested in building a fully custom streaming and downloading platform for Cock Hero related content, with proper tagging, categorization, sorting and management to make finding and managing Cock Heros a joy. Submissions to the site would be exclusive to Milovana users, and as a upload requirement you would need to submit a Milovana forum thread URL in order to get accepted.

This way Cock Hero creators can upload uncompressed, full length videos to the streaming platform, keeping all of the content under one roof - this way we avoid Pornhub's compression and copyright issues and filehosters deleting content.

So, here's a non-exhaustive list of proposed features:

Accounts:
- Registration / Login
- Bookmarks, Favorites
- Milovana account linking

Videos:
- Only by original creators
- Non-reuploads: Original quality
- Fully categorized and tagged (length, type, beatmeter, difficulty, etc)
- Comments & Like/Dislike
- Streaming
- Downloads

Site & Design:
- Fully custom, from the ground up
- Fast, sleek & modern
- Non-ad ridden
- Built with Milovana in mind

Let me know if you would be interested in this -- if you are a content creator, or someone interested in testing things out or helping out in general, feel free to reply to this thread. I have already started planning everything out, if the support is positive I'm sure it won't take too long. :)

PS: All of the running and development costs will be paid by me until everything is running - if you feel generous and wish to help, let me know!

Until next time!
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Hello and welcome to Milovana :wave:

Sounds interesting - there have been a couple of sites like this so I have some questions:
  • How heavily will it rely on ads? Or to rephrase that: How are you planning on making money with it, or are you looking to just make enough to cover your costs?
  • What do you intend to do differently then the one that already exist/existed? As I've mentioned there have been others but in the end I always went back to Milovana as my primary source for new releases (Best quality, all in one place, early releases).
  • Are you planning on adding support for additional CH Files like the audio-files used for E-stim or the haptic-files (e.g. funscript) used for sex-toys?
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Liquid wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:53 am Hello and welcome to Milovana :wave:

Sounds interesting - there have been a couple of sites like this so I have some questions:
  • How heavily will it rely on ads? Or to rephrase that: How are you planning on making money with it, or are you looking to just make enough to cover your costs?
  • What do you intend to do differently then the one that already exist/existed? As I've mentioned there have been others but in the end I always went back to Milovana as my primary source for new releases (Best quality, all in one place, early releases).
  • Are you planning on adding support for additional CH Files like the audio-files used for E-stim or the haptic-files (e.g. funscript) used for sex-toys?
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Hello,

Thanks for your questions.

In an ideal world it wont have any ads. Not looking for profit, just sustainability, either via donations or light advertising.

I believe this new site will have polish put into it it that other sites have lacked, which makes this special. Its impossible to say for sure right now, just need to wait until its ready to be tried out. :)

Additional content will be supported too, but focus is mainly in videos.
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Hi. Always great to see enthusiasm for CH but I wonder if the site is necessary. It would be very expensive to run without ads. How would it differ from http://www.cockhero.info or the inferior IMHO (although higher up on searches!) http://www.cockhero.org or http://www.faphub.org even for that matter? Duplication is handy for preservation, yes but it fragments the community too. Milovana itself is a 3rd or 4th site, depending on how you look at it.

tl;dr: What would a new site bring to the table that the other sites lack?

Personally I've always wanted to see better integration of torrents and links to Mega shares as while these are grouped together for the most part, they're not always the easiest things to find and people just tend to opt for PornHub et al instead due to convenience.
Actually, thinking about it- there are a lot of obscure CHs that are at risk of disappearing. I think contacting creators and obtaining original files to host for them would be my priority personally.
There's also never really been a good platform for multi-player activity. Do you think you could program that? Or how about a CH generator for imageboards and Boorus? That's been done before but sadly no longer works. Are you up for that challenge? ;)
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temptemp wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:22 pm Hi. Always great to see enthusiasm for CH but I wonder if the site is necessary. It would be very expensive to run without ads. How would it differ from http://www.cockhero.info or the inferior IMHO (although higher up on searches!) http://www.cockhero.org or http://www.faphub.org even for that matter? Duplication is handy for preservation, yes but it fragments the community too. Milovana itself is a 3rd or 4th site, depending on how you look at it.

tl;dr: What would a new site bring to the table that the other sites lack?

Personally I've always wanted to see better integration of torrents and links to Mega shares as while these are grouped together for the most part, they're not always the easiest things to find and people just tend to opt for PornHub et al instead due to convenience.
Actually, thinking about it- there are a lot of obscure CHs that are at risk of disappearing. I think contacting creators and obtaining original files to host for them would be my priority personally.
There's also never really been a good platform for multi-player activity. Do you think you could program that? Or how about a CH generator for imageboards and Boorus? That's been done before but sadly no longer works. Are you up for that challenge? ;)
Hi there,

Thanks for your reply. All of that seems very interesting.

https://i.imgur.com/NHMftcn.jpg

I have some experience building network heavy sites, I think I can manage the starting costs :)

Main advantage with my platform would be that its entirely Milovana based, from new submissions, to users, to management and sorting -- essentially keeping all of the content on Milovana in one place.

I can also automatically back up all videos to multiple sites, making sure all videos stay alive for days to come.

Let me know if you have questions!
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This sounds great. I'll certainly consider donating for the cause if this happens. Nobody likes having to upload to scrubby degraded quality video sites or fighting the takedowns constantly.
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Cybertoad wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:26 pm The concept as is been mentioned has been around a long time there are obstacles for just about any person that may come to use this material. Some are looking for a higher quality, and often the free accounts at PORNHUB do not allow the quality one may be looking for. The next is Torrents , why often a higher quality material may be found there it can be hit and miss, underpinning who is seating and held the materialist. I have found some torrents here, that had long expired with no seeds. Then there are other cloud-based sites that offer downloads and account access again the issue seems to be cost for the accounts that are used. Some of the top websites that are out there for material seemed to struggle after a while. The cost of running a website is expensive and the more material you have interacting and being downloaded the prices begin to skyrocket pretty quickly. Video files as opposed to a simple picture or text file require a lot of bandwidth to be used on a particular server. I have been around adult websites and the operations for a very long time going back over 20 years. As seen many come and go and many have lasted quite a while but they are usually replaced. The issue is being able to afford what is being done on the website. Advertisements are good but there are limitations, you still have the material in space to be rented and if people do not visit the website its longevity is good question . It's a great idea and not knowing OP's financial state I cannot say whether or not investing in such a venture is wise. I am curious how this will work out in the long run, as the expenses are high. I run seven websites right now that are not related to this, so I know my expenses than I know what I can use the websites for even a small amount of material I have that is downloadable on my website eats up a ton of bandwidth every month, and with success comes more bandwidth. So any advertisement has to be a lot offset that. I am not sure that the material used would be that beneficial to the general public. All one has to do is look at this particular website we are all on right now, to see it's visited periodically by about 20 to 50 people, hardly enough to sustain the advertisement of this website if it had downloadable material. I am interested in how this will work out.

It may sound funny, but perhaps to help fund your startup, perhaps a globe fund me account? And then advertise that and see if there's interest before you have full venture into this in the meantime you can be planning out your website and how it would be designed. But then you may have some starting costs that will not be covered by advertisements initially. Just my thoughts
Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate the long message.

I have worked with large, bandwidth heavy websites for a long time and I have found ways to cut costs to a minimum while keeping my sites ad-free. Most of my projects are non-profit and funded by donations while serving hundreds of terabytes of data monthly (Alexa top 20000)

In regards to this site, it would be very niche, not just because of the cock hero genre but also because of the Milovana focus - I'm not looking to become the next Pornhub, but I want to build a nice website with a nice, active community around it, I deal with file sharing alot so I know a few tricks to make sure that even if my site doesn't work out, all of the content, categorization, etc would be nicely archived and packed up for the future.

Regardless, this is not my first rodeo: I feel confident about this, I hope the community will find it nice too. :)
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Preliminarily, it sounds good. I think a lot of people would appreciate the ability to tag the videos with information at specific timestamps. It would be nice to have actor/actress names, music info, and all the other metadata all in one place.
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I think it sounds great. It certainly sounds very feasible, and not too terribly hard given your experience. My background is in software and web development, so I’ve been around the block a few times even if I don’t work with it currently, but it certainly sounds doable.

If it could stream with reliability at HD quality, a well organized site would definitely become my goto when I’m looking for a CH type experience rather than muddling my way through the PH search or sorting through empornium torrents.

That said, there are some great CH’s and related videos out there made by people who don’t seem to have a Milovana presence. I think it’d be wonderful if there were possibilities for them to get in there too, for the watcher’s benefit if not the producer.

What might be a concern to consider would be how to handle DMCA takedown requests. If your site is hosted in a country that has an international copyright treaty with the US, this could become a thing to worry about. I’m based in Scandinavia, for example, and while individuals have a lot more protection here against frivolous lawsuits from companies, there’s definitely more movement towards more ‘American’ conditions the last few years.
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CHStream wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:54 pm I have worked with large, bandwidth heavy websites for a long time and I have found ways to cut costs to a minimum while keeping my sites ad-free.
If I am allowed to ask, can I get few details about where do you host all that data? I'm curious because I am running cockhero.nl (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=20463), and I had to reduce the public available resolution due to bandwidth cost :) As far as I know (but my knowledge is really basic on this), the cheapest cloud usable for streaming is currently backblaze b2 (https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage.html), 0.01$ / GB Download/Streaming or I also saw 1fichier.com which is offering CDN for 0.005 EUR / GB.

But if I offer 4k videos, 5 GB per video. 100 users a day, 30 day a month. = 15'000 GB = 150 USD with backblaze or 75 EUR with 1fichier... :blush:

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Have you given thought to hosting providers with good bandwidth AND better laws (for you) around copyright protections? I'd hate to see this take off and then get slammed offline because the porn industry burned it to the ground... or made it so you had to show "sponsored content" shit like pornhub.
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I welcome all storage initiatives because it preserves our "knowledge base". :lol: However, the copyright issue is indeed important as been mentioned. Not just the creators can participate if you need help. There are quite a few archivists here who would be happy to provide original copies too.

As for current streaming websites listed in previous posts, I admit, I don't visit them because they don't work for me. I often notice that they require tons of javascripts/pluggins/third party junk in order to run, and/or assuming popular platforms (like Windows), and that just doesn't work at all for me.

PS: Also, creators making PMVs (Porn Music Videos) might be interested by your project too. Just an idea to keep in mind/consider.

Good luck with your project!
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Shitty developer here ready to bite off more than I can chew.
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zerooo wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:37 pm
CHStream wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:54 pm I have worked with large, bandwidth heavy websites for a long time and I have found ways to cut costs to a minimum while keeping my sites ad-free.
If I am allowed to ask, can I get few details about where do you host all that data? I'm curious because I am running cockhero.nl (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=20463), and I had to reduce the public available resolution due to bandwidth cost :) As far as I know (but my knowledge is really basic on this), the cheapest cloud usable for streaming is currently backblaze b2 (https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage.html), 0.01$ / GB Download/Streaming or I also saw 1fichier.com which is offering CDN for 0.005 EUR / GB.

But if I offer 4k videos, 5 GB per video. 100 users a day, 30 day a month. = 15'000 GB = 150 USD with backblaze or 75 EUR with 1fichier... :blush:

:-)
I would prefer not going into details on how the backend content delivery works. It's using methods not known in the general public to make it affordable :)
fagustree wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:13 am Have you given thought to hosting providers with good bandwidth AND better laws (for you) around copyright protections? I'd hate to see this take off and then get slammed offline because the porn industry burned it to the ground... or made it so you had to show "sponsored content" shit like pornhub.
doremi wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:45 am However, the copyright issue is indeed important as been mentioned.
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Sounds very interesting. :love:
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