Need help learning to edge

[neverenough]

I'm new. I recently stumbled upon Mlovana and have been enjoying every aspect of the site, especially the webteases.

As I'm new to tease and denial stuff, I've had some *cough* technical difficulties. There are 2 ubiquitous aspects of many of the teases that I have difficulty with: precum and edging. I'd really like to get the hang of these as soon as possible so I can take full advantage of the huge volume of always creative webteases on here.

Precum: I have never, to my knowledge, produced any precum. Now, I jerk off pretty consistently and haven't had many long periods with cumming, so it's not 100% impossible for me to eventually precum, even just a little, if I continue with denial. It doesn't seem absolutely necessary to complete many of the teases where precum is mentioned, but it would be pretty cool to eventually have that ability.

Have any of you ever gained the ability to precum when you hadn't ever done so previously? How?

Edging: This is probably the most frustrating part for me right now. I'm having a hard time figuring out how to edge. It takes some hard, furious deathgrip stroking for me to get there, and at the pace I'm stroking it's very difficult for me to find the edge, much less hold it. About half the time, I end up just leaking cum. It kinda just streams out, even though I try to focus on my breathing and keep everything still. I'm pretty sure it's a ruined orgasm, or even a full out orgasm when it starts spasming a little. Basically, I do seem to get a little bit of satisfaction from it, which as I understand is NOT the point.

Again, this is probably something that going longer periods without stroking will help with since that should sensitize me up to where lighter, slower stroking will get me there. Also, I think that greater pelvic floor muscle control will help.

Have any of you had these issues, especially when you first started doing T&D? I'd really appreciate any advice or stories you have.

I've been searching around trying to find some answers, but decided that the best source would be you guys here. Y'all are familiar with the teases and what it takes to do them.

[SexualChoc]

to milovana

precum:
not everyone does produce some, usually need several days of denial...
it is possible you Might not be hydrating enough, this does not always directly help, but from what I read Normal water or juice intake is good for sperm.

Edging: requires learning how to use your Pelvic muscles..
one of the best ways to train this is:
when you go pee try to stop your pee in mid stream by pushing your stomach muscles down
you may want to practice sitting on the toilet first
until you get used to doing it... it can be done standing.. but that can get tricky.
once you figure out where these musles are.. you can use them to also stop cum... sometimes..
here is a quote on edging from Milovnana's very own.. Urge...

Edging is one of those acts that is either a non-starter, or it just mucks with you. The act of Edging is to masturbate. Bring yourself as close to orgasm as you can without actually having one. When you are on the cusp- stop. Completely. Until you are almost flaccid again (for men) or the wave has passed (for women). Then start up again. Some folks can do this as many as 40 times in a row. Others, not so much.
Milovanian thoughts
Edging is something that is kind of difficult at first, or when you are very young, it is not easy to hold back your orgasm and ejaculation. (I am speaking of males; I imagine for females it is quite different). It is really just a matter of timing; you have to stop at the precise moment before it is 'too late' and it is impossible to keep from cumming. However, like everything else practice makes perfect and if you do it enough you will learn and if you do it enough years as I did, eventually you will be able to masturbate indefinitely, or learn to have orgasms without ejaculating or ejaculate without orgasm. A warning though, if you do it long enough it becomes very addictive.

[Nezhul]

I don't see how using pelvic muscles helps edging in any way. It's good to practice them still, it helps to last longer in bed among anything else.

[SexualChoc]

I don't see how using pelvic muscles helps edging in any way. It's good to practice them still, it helps to last longer in bed among anything else.

Fair enough... do you have a suggestion on how to help him??

[Xardas]

Edging: Been there myself. It's not that I didn't want to stop or couldn't bring myself to stop, no, the problem was (and to a lesser degree, still is sometimes) realising the right moment. Realising that I have to stop NOW and I won't have an orgasm, just a very frustrating urge, but doing one more stroke will send me over. Being able to realise these moments requires you to know your bodily reactions in a state of arousal. Here's what worked for me: Instead of doing teases, just stroke yourself as normal. You could watch porn, but pay more attention to your own body than to what's on the screen. Start out fast and then, as you get more excited and closer to the finish, gradually slow down. If you feel close to having an orgasm stop and hands off for at least a minute. Don't wait until your cock throbs uncontrollably, chances are that by then you are past the point of no return. Once you calmed down little, stroke again, preferably relatively slow and you can slow down even further. Than, once you think that you are close to an orgasm, do 1 more stroke then hands off. At he next attempt, do 2 more strokes once you feel that you are getting really close. And so forth. Eventually you will reach the point, when after you remove your hands, you cock will throb a few a times, maybe produce a few drops of precum and VERY strong urge to touch it just once, just a little will rush over you. Resist it and let the feeling pass, which will leave little to know satisfaction behind, only frustration and an afterthought, that you should have touched yourself to finish. That was an edge.

The next state will be a ruined orgasm. This happens when even after the removal of your hands from your cock, it will go on throbbing and cum will just ooze out of it. This should give absolutely no satisfaction, just endless frustration and a feel of regret. If you enjoy it or if the cum comes flying off with a great force, then that wasn't a real ruined orgasm, that was a full one.

Repeat this sequence regularly and eventually you will know your own reactions well enough to know when to stop. Practices makes perfect and there's no shortcut I'm afraid.

I find edging challenging, especially doing multiple edges in a row. Getting a full ruined orgasm is even harder though, there is a very thin line between an edge and a ruined orgasm.

[Nezhul]

Fair enough... do you have a suggestion on how to help him??

erm... Masturbate without cumming? Stop stroking before you orgasm, start far and repeat until you find the spot which is the point of no return for ya and that's your edge?

[janmb]

I don't see how using pelvic muscles helps edging in any way. It's good to practice them still, it helps to last longer in bed among anything else.

Agreed.

Normally, you don't need to use PC muscles in any way in order to edge. You simply stroke or otherwise carefully stimulate yourself right up to the point where you are about to cum, and stop soon enough for the orgasm not to happen - but close. It will and is supposed to feel excruciating.

The only thing I use PC muscles for in terms of edging is to prevent an accident if I happen to go too far. When you get past the point of no return, clenching the PC muscles HARD and for at least 10 seconds, may prevent the spasming from being allowed to ejaculate at all. But it's important to consider this a failure still, and not edging as it is supposed to be. Edging done properly you can do completely relaxed.

Best simple advise is: Approach the edge from the safe side. Stop early. Very early. Then carefully go a little closer each time.