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Do you think Milovana.com is perfect in every way? Hopefully not, so what can we do to improve? Every idea, suggestion or criticism is highly appreciated.
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Not trying to sound ungrateful, but someone has to say it:

1-- I have a job, as do many people. We don't have 4-6 hours to sit here masturbating, and if we did, mere photographs would not sustain a session that long.

2-- counting out the number of times my fist pumps up and down as I stroke is an instant wood-killer. This is not fun nor erotic.

3-- You really expect me to edge 10-15 times to the same single static photograph? Really? Really??

4-- It is not possible to cum instantly. If I'm "riding an edge," I'm not going to be able to cum the exact second I turn the page. If that were the case I wouldn't be riding an edge, I'd already be cumming.

That is all.
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Noooo that didn't sound ungrateful or self entitled at all :unsure:

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I'd just like to thank anyone who takes time out of their working day to create teases in the first place, I appreciate you are busy and personally I am glad you put your spare time into developing this site further x
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Banquo wrote:Noooo that didn't sound ungrateful or self entitled at all :unsure:

:lol: :lol:

as I say if YOU have an idea.. Write a tease...
get creative..
write something that turns you on..
who know you might start a whole series of ideas?
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the man (vvv) is right.
1885 is someone that understands these things and does it right. The expectations of some webteases IS often hilariously strange
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Banquo wrote:Noooo that didn't sound ungrateful or self entitled at all :unsure:

No matter how you look at it, these are all actually valid points. Maybe they are worded a bit aggravating for some, but I tend to agree with all the points.

I would even add a few of the things I saw on my own:

1) Poorly chosen or random images ruin immersion. Choose the photos that will go well with a story (and EVERY tease has a story, even pure instructional ones)
2) If the player is gonna need some item - inform him beforehand. There's not a worse scenario if you are on the edge, and SUDDENLY told to grab a dildo and shove it up your ass. I mean, right, I will stand up now, go to the other room, grab it from the toybox and return to the screen with my hard-on and desire to play likely gone by that time. All of that naked with my hands covered in lube. I'm just saying...
3) Make all topics clear from the beginning. Nothing more frustrating than a tease suddenly asks you to, say, hurt yourself, while this is a turn-off. Or a tease SUDDENLY turning out to be bisexual/trans oriented.
4) Dont make impossible demands. The fantasy to stay on the edge for 30 minutes may be hot... but most people simply can't achieve that. Asking for 50 edges (right away, on a single page of the tease) - too much. Even those who actually can pull this off will NOT do that for a single image. Edging and then presenting a player with a 2-minute long super fast stroke beat without any rest? Those who can pull that off probably DIDN'T in fact edge properly. Just... be real.

p.s. writing this as a former author. I don't write or wiew teases these days, so it's pure unbiased advise.
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Nezhul wrote: Maybe they are worded a bit aggravating for some,
You're right, my wording of number 3 was a bit acerbic. I wasn't really trying to come off aggressively, but number 3 was just the most frustrating, because it happens so often and I can't imagine for the life of me that anyone actually edges "once for each toe" to a single picture. I'm even a foot guy and that's just not going to be possible. But yes, apologies for being less than cool on that one.

I did have another one, but I wasn't sure if it's really unreasonable to expect it, or if it's just me it doesn't work for, so I'll toss it out and others can weigh in:

5-- There's just no way I can maintain an erection while stroking to a metronome at a rate of one beat per two seconds for three minutes, all to a single picture. One second is even pushing it.

Maybe that's just me being old though, we'll see.
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Just to be clear, it's not that I thought there weren't some valid criticisms there. Just could have been a little more constructive.
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Don't make me switch to my non-dominant hand. It sounds like a fun variation, but all this means is that I now have NO HANDS that I can touch my my keyboard or mouse with. (IOW: clean / not covered in lube mixed with precum. Lol. PLEASE let me keep one hand dry at all times?
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Agree with so much of this.

Also dont expect me to start following instructions in a tease unless it builds some kind of anticipation. A basic but realistic plot usually helps with that, but simply explaining the instructions in the tease before-hand would help me be sure I want to start following instructions.

Timers are bloody annoying and should be used sparingly, and only for short times. I can time 5 minutes myself if really necessary, otherwise assuming that I want to wait 5 minutes before going to the next page (especially annoying if you lose progress on a tease via freak refresh or something, and it has 20 minutes of unskippable content) is a big mistake. Nothing is gained from trying to force people not to skip. They're going to go to another tab and wait it out or just close the tease.

I usually end up just opening multiple eligible teases at once, following none of them, just switching between them to wait for the timers to expire and clicking 'next' to get an idea of what each tease contains, the general theme of it, and whether it'll be worth my time. The majority aren't, mostly for the reasons others have mentioned here. I just think it'd be good for some basic best practice principles to be encouraged in order to make teases more enjoyable all around. Some things can be a little 'spoiled' this way but it's better than starting to follow a tease I'd never complete, wasting precious time and, eh, stamina, that could be spent on a more fitting tease.
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Also, timers on text-only screens are annoying. I've usually finished reading way before the screen changes. It makes way more sense to just have a button for me to click myself when I'm done reading / enjoying the picture, unless the timing is an important part of the teasing at that point (it usually isn't!). It's another thing that just makes me switch tabs while waiting, then sometimes I miss a screen.

Most of the teases seem to oddly go:
Block of text - click to continue
Block of text - click to continue
Block of text - hidden timer
Block of text - hidden timer
Block of text - hidden timer
Block of text - hidden timer
Block of text - hidden timer
Block of text - click to continue
Block of text - click to continue
etc...

Not only annoying but inconsistent. In most hands-free or "dialogue-y" cases, timer + button to skip would be ideal.
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The key here is "theme".

The most common flaw I see in many of these is the idea that a theme for a tease is suggesting images to the mind of one kind of activity -- and the images are something else altogether. If we're talking about Dominance and submission, gender bending, bondage, fetish and a whole line of activity including just about everything BUT vanilla, the last thing we would want to see is a picture of something that looked to be cut from the most vanilla issue of Playboy. You see the same thing in video purchased over the counter -- where the package has a disclaimer saying that the pictures on the box may not be from the actual video in the package. Say WHAT???

If someone is going to take the trouble to design a scenario for a web tease, or a game or other such activity, please include pictures that make sense with what else is going on.

One other thing: Everyone's body runs by a different clock. I remember how mine ran forty years ago and I know it is not on the same clock now that it was then. It isn't realistic to expect everyone to perform to a standard of an 18 year old high school kid. I'd advise you to use a "Click when you do such and such" kind of timer. A real time clock kind of screws your fantasy when you're early or late -- as most of us will be. Especially when you only have so much time available to enjoy the program.

Thanks for some very enjoyable times -- and I DO appreciate the hard work that goes into the site!
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Valid points here, but sadly, the OP will probably never read the comments....

But just in case you do....yes....~PLEASE~ write a tease, Mr. VVV....
You'll find it's hard to please everyone, and yes, it takes some time and practice writing webteases....to see more of what works better and what doesn't...

But some good and fair points in this thread... Appreciate the comments..
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vvv wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:54 pm Not trying to sound ungrateful, but someone has to say it:

1-- I have a job, as do many people. We don't have 4-6 hours to sit here masturbating, and if we did, mere photographs would not sustain a session that long.

2-- counting out the number of times my fist pumps up and down as I stroke is an instant wood-killer. This is not fun nor erotic.

3-- You really expect me to edge 10-15 times to the same single static photograph? Really? Really??

4-- It is not possible to cum instantly. If I'm "riding an edge," I'm not going to be able to cum the exact second I turn the page. If that were the case I wouldn't be riding an edge, I'd already be cumming.

That is all.
disagree with everything you suggested honestly

1. Teases that go that long usually warn you beforehand that they take a lot of time, i see no problem with having a variety of short teases, long teases and everything inbetween. Why suggesting against long teases if only YOU can't be bothered to masturbate for hours?

2. How else are you going to determine how long the player has to stay on each page?? There is the option of giving a timespan...but i guess this would also not be fun and erotic for you....There aren't much options here. And if you can't be bothered to follow through the instructions, simply ignore them and do what you want. It's not that hard.

3. One of my favorite teases made me edge 50 times on a single picture, so speak for yourself...let's keep the simple teases AND the ridiculous teases, there might be people that get something out of it.

4. hmm weird complaint....for me riding an edge is definitely being seconds away from cumming...that's what an edge is...being a few strokes away from orgasm. It sounds more like a lack of control on your part because i never even thought that instructions like this could be a problem for anybody.

others made more reasonable suggestions:
- i agree with waiting times being short or skippable
- items should be mentioned before
- involved kinks should be clear from the beginning


I may be the minority but i would actually advocate for more difficult teases. I personally only bother to play through a tease if it looks like a challenge for me. And no offense, but there are a lot of teases that advertise extrem or a lot of edging, which get's me intrigued at first. But excuse me if i roll my eyes after finding out that your extrem edging makes me do a total of like 15 edges in the whole tease. That's not extrem at all, sorry.
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Feedback is a good thing. But complaining or even ranting about free content isn't.

I am one of the authors, whose teases your criticisms could be aimed at. They are sometimes quite long, very demanding and difficult. But I don't care if you don't like it. Why would I?

I write what turns me on, even if I don't think anyone else would like it. Kinda like art would supposed to be done. I remember when I made my first porn video "Edging vs Twerking" like 6+ years ago for myself and thought it would be so niche and so hard, noone else would enjoy that. I published it here anyway as a way to give content back to the community, even if there were reasons not to. And I still find it now on porn sites with ridiculous ammounts of views, considering the poor quality.

So: People have different tastes! There are people who like super hard teases, because even only reading or writing them is a sexy fantasy to them.

It seems like you are looking for someone to screen teases for you and filter for what you would like. But you are gonna have to do that work yourself, or ask people nicely for advice. Many of us authors are transparent about what to expect from our teases, or we at least have a style. So my suggestions is: If you like a tease, pay attention who wrote it, thank him and look for his other teases.
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