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So it turns out that not only the article is terrible, but these stats are probably not reliable at all...
Maybe I shouldn't shared this and spread negative and false informations. I'm sorry for that.
I was just excited that someone is talking about us.

I would love to read some long, in-depth analysis of Cock hero phenomena. It would be nice to learn more about it's history, authors, connection to T&D and why is this loss of control so attractive for some of us. What makes some people more predisposed to enjoy these things? Is it something that is formed by our life experiences or is it something in our genes?
Who really are those people who are spending hundreds of hours compiling these videos for others to enjoy? What is their motivation and philosophy?

There is so much area to explore if you wanted to dive deep and write some great article...

Or what about some in-depth reviews of best CH videos? Analyzing their design, structure and tools they use to create unforgettable experiences for us viewers and trying to really understand what makes these videos so good. What are the areas in which they innovate and what tricks they use?

You may say that these things are not that important and at the end of the day CH videos are here simply to be enjoyed and not overanalyzed. True, but peronally, I would like to know and learn just a little bit more...
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Pseudonym wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:11 am I would love to read some long, in-depth analysis of Cock hero phenomena. It would be nice to learn more about it's history, authors, connection to T&D and why is this loss of control so attractive for some of us. What makes some people more predisposed to enjoy these things? Is it something that is formed by our life experiences or is it something in our genes?
Who really are those people who are spending hundreds of hours compiling these videos for others to enjoy? What is their motivation and philosophy?

...

You may say that these things are not that important and at the end of the day CH videos are here simply to be enjoyed and not overanalyzed. True, but peronally, I would like to know and learn just a little bit more...
I can say that my father does not like wearing the pants and that his current wife makes most of his decisions for him. I do find it incredibly annoying that he doesn't have reasons to do something other than that it will make his wife content at least for the day. However, I also see that I copy his example at least somewhat.

For me, although the loss of control/not knowing what is coming is attractive, the primary element of CH is music and rhythm. I was driven here through discovering PMVs. There's something about the synergy of musical and sexual energy that I like a lot.

I feel like there have been posts here with some analysis although I doubt there are scholarly articles about it. I could dust off my google docs and try to write something but it's been years since I've written a proper essay.
book_guy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:40 pm 1. More men than women, but, the stat is likely skewed very much, since the Pornhub membership self-reports their own gender. I suspect it's HIGHLY more likely that, among the fake reports, males claiming to be females outnumber females claiming to be males.
I was going to make this point but I didn't know how to word it without opening myself up to criticism. I think that women with penises are more likely to play CH than woman with vaginas, and that this is backed up by the stats for "CH trans" searches.
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I’ve always loved rhythm games, which is what got me to try CH. I spent a ton of hours on Dance Dance Revolution back in the day, and still have my modded Dreamcast that let me play Japanese imports for editions you couldn’t get in the US, where I lived at the time. I still love to play them. There’s a mobile game called Bang Dream: Girls Band Party that is basically DDR for your thumbs that I’m playing regularly these days.

The loss of control aspect is a big thing too, though, even though I don’t consider myself particularly submissive. There’s something exciting about knowing that you have to keep going, even if you might normally have slowed down, and trying to meet the challenge of not finishing before the end of the video. To me that’s both sexy and fun. So I don’t really enjoy CH videos that don’t challenge me that way. There has to be that threat of failing to make it interesting.

So yeah, rhythm games + porn are a winning combo for me. :)
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Holy shit it's growing far bigger and faster than I could have imagined. :lol:
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I'm not sure if this sort of publicity is a good thing. Many creators already have their content removed due to DMCA, any spotlight can only increase the take downs.

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wangchungass wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:02 pm I'm not sure if this sort of publicity is a good thing. Many creators already have their content removed due to DMCA, any spotlight can only increase the take downs.
They can take down the porn, sever my internet connection, but they will never take my freedom. :pirate2:

I'd love to pay for my porn but I can't feasibly afford the variety I demand and those companies make fuck tons of money anyway.

It would be cool to see statistics on how much each cock hero costs in terms of if the pornography were purchased legally. The many sources of content in a CH video probably make the video more vulnerable to DMCA. The laws were not written in the favor of people who edit these videos, and there isn't enough demand for a profit seeking venture in this niche imo.

I'd imagine a Patreon style operation would be shut down rather quickly. Although they have rules specifically against porn, there are women who still use it to sell nudes as "art." A CH/PMV/Tease creator could possibly generate income there but I'd imagine there would be complications selling derivative works of copyrighted content. Perhaps the loophole would be similar to farmers who sell the service of cutting/packing their produce and not the produce itself.

All in all, I think the publicity is good, and will result in more creators who will influence the future of the genre.
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All the videos with couples playing is my favorite new phenomenon in CHdom.

It's a shame the idea of people joining a chatroom and competing against each other seems to have died down. It seems like an appropriate venue or application was never figured out. I'd love to test my skills against others :-D
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chfluxfan wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:02 pm All the videos with couples playing is my favorite new phenomenon in CHdom.

It's a shame the idea of people joining a chatroom and competing against each other seems to have died down. It seems like an appropriate venue or application was never figured out. I'd love to test my skills against others :-D
An enterprising domme could be a referee.
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fragrantEmulsion wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:07 am
chfluxfan wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:02 pm All the videos with couples playing is my favorite new phenomenon in CHdom.

It's a shame the idea of people joining a chatroom and competing against each other seems to have died down. It seems like an appropriate venue or application was never figured out. I'd love to test my skills against others :-D
An enterprising domme could be a referee.
I think that was tried but never really took off.
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chfluxfan wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:05 pm I think that was tried but never really took off.
Not enough incentives then.
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Rule63MePlease wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:18 pm Holy shit it's growing far bigger and faster than I could have imagined. :lol:
That's what she said... :-D

By the way, since this is a "meta" post (thank you Pseudonym, this threads are interesting), I'd like to share my view about the phenomena of CH. For me it is an evolution of the WebTeases. When I first met Cock Hero (2015), WebTeases already existed. But after giving them a try, I can see how the WebTeases are the execution of this idea of tease, stimulate, and denial, and giving up control. So I see a correlation, and how Cock Hero videos are an evolution, an "automatized" version of the webteases.

By the way, the new Web Teases are more interactive and engaging than ever! Sometimes I think there's a lot of potential on the technology, and being able to insert short videos in a Web Tease, or bigger -higher resolution- pictures, would enhance a lot the experience.

It would be equally interesting to make CHs more interactive, like the WebTeases, but here it is much more complicated. We have great videos that give you paths and options (sadly, most are Hardcore, the only good "choose your path" softcore CH is CH Audition 3, which is among the best ever, it's a pity that I have used so much), but it is much more difficult to make it work in a video rather than on a webtease.
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Alex69 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:36 pm It would be equally interesting to make CHs more interactive, like the WebTeases, but here it is much more complicated. We have great videos that give you paths and options (sadly, most are Hardcore, the only good "choose your path" softcore CH is CH Audition 3, which is among the best ever, it's a pity that I have used so much), but it is much more difficult to make it work in a video rather than on a webtease.
I'm working on something like this but I'm not comfortable giving details or committing to anything yet.
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fragrantEmulsion wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:51 pm For me, although the loss of control/not knowing what is coming is attractive, the primary element of CH is music and rhythm. I was driven here through discovering PMVs. There's something about the synergy of musical and sexual energy that I like a lot.
Same here. The important milestones for me were first tribes' DanceWORKout and then vindicare's Flux Dance Project.

DanceWORKOUT did away with the beatmeter which was standard at the time because everything else was a "Cock Hero" movie. The Flux Dance Project added to this the inclusion of scenes from music videos and included faster edits, synced to the music.

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For me there is nothing better than this format. Unless there is some release that is similar in character to these two movies I don't even bother watching porn.

Fortunately, there has been plenty of material in this style. A lot of it is in the style of porn music videos (PMVs) which seem to have emerged outside of this forum but which I'm sure most of you have seen on emp, reddit, or just pornhub. A tricky thing about PMVs is that they are a bit of a minefield for me. There is just so much material involving anal, trannies, interracial and gangbangs with too many guys, all things which I don't care for. Usually this isn't an issue, I'll check the tags and the thumbnails and move on.

However, there is a minority of creators who make some truly fantastic edits but with scenes I don't like. That's the frustrating part. As an example take Sissy Sandra. This person has made a plethora of tranny edits. Two exceptions that I'm aware of are DeepSlutPuppy - 7 - Vanilla and Champion of Cocknia. Both very creative and compelling works. I'm actually grateful he (or she if his sissification is complete at this point, I guess) made these because I'm never going to be into his tranny stuff.

On emp there is an almost constant flow of PMVs and an entire category dedicated to PMVs. A lot of them you will find reposted on pornhub and linked in /r/PornMusicVids/. Quality there varies and typically it's hard to find something that doesn't involve anal, gangbangs, or interracial. But it is interesting to keep an eye on what is produced on that side of the internet.

Finally, when it comes to understanding the cock hero / pmv phenomenon, I'm also very curious about something which may be somewhat taboo. The pornhub statistics for "cock hero" searches show the countries of the viewers and clearly there is a strong European representation which I did not find surprising. However, I am also very curious to know the ethnicity or race of the creators. The specific reason for my curiosity are the patterns I notice mainly in the aforementioned pmv/emp/reddit/pornhub sphere. Who is making all these rnb, trap music, interracial pmvs? Is it white guys who are just into it? Is it black guys? Jews? I would like to know more.

For example, I wouldn't be surprised if hentype was black. Specifically, I absolutely love everything about Teaserz, the music, the scenes the edits, everything. I'm just very curious to know. It's also fine if I never find out (don't dox yourself if you're reading this hentype :love: )
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A Ghoul Editor wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 10:16 am Same here. The important milestones for me were first tribes' DanceWORKout and then vindicare's Flux Dance Project.

DanceWORKOUT did away with the beatmeter which was standard at the time because everything else was a "Cock Hero" movie. The Flux Dance Project added to this the inclusion of scenes from music videos and included faster edits, synced to the music.

For me there is nothing better than this format. Unless there is some release that is similar in character to these two movies I don't even bother watching porn.
I feel nearly the same, however there are some exceptions. A good surrogate is putting music on in the background and just winging it. Most of the porn I've consumed over the past 6 months has been either PMV, CH, or scenes that I'm looking to use in the future.

An exception being "The Cummoner" which is a pornographic web comic about a witch who charges herself up with sexual energy by summoning lustful demons. http://www.totempole666.com/ There is actually a story there within a rich world. I find myself attached to the main character, which is something that CH videos have tried to do, somewhat successfully.

Something that drives this attachment is watching her enjoy being ravaged by various monsters and demons--something that I will touch on later in this post...
A Ghoul Editor wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 10:16 am A tricky thing about PMVs is that they are a bit of a minefield for me. There is just so much material involving anal, trannies, interracial and gangbangs with too many guys, all things which I don't care for. Usually this isn't an issue, I'll check the tags and the thumbnails and move on.

On emp there is an almost constant flow of PMVs and an entire category dedicated to PMVs. A lot of them you will find reposted on pornhub and linked in /r/PornMusicVids/. Quality there varies and typically it's hard to find something that doesn't involve anal, gangbangs, or interracial. But it is interesting to keep an eye on what is produced on that side of the internet.
I think that there's a certain level of fetishized submissiveness that CH videos and sissy hypno videos share. I didn't know what sissy hypno was until I stumbled on it after looking for a different kind of hypnosis video. I still have the image of a man who looked like Linus Tech Tips sucking dick burned into my mind.

I agree that it is annoying that most creators stick to hardcore content; this is kind of a chicken and egg scenario. We are beholden to what the industry produces, and the high quality studios are going to produce mainstream content. I feel like there is a whole lot more hardcore content, and this is worsened by the fact that as an actress ages, she is asked to do more and more in order to remain relevant or "fresh."

It is difficult finding softcore content, it feels like there are 3 or 4 hardcore scenes for every good softcore scene. My favorite part of a hardcore scene is the beginning, before the dude enters the scene, where the actress is wearing the sluttiest outfits etc.

I don't really have an aversion to hardcore content per se, my issue with it is when hardcore scenes are introduced immediately.

THERE NEEDS TO BE PROGRESSION FFS.

A secondary issue, for me, is that I have trouble getting into the scene when the guy in the scene is a third person character. I much prefer POV for this reason. I believe there is an element of dissociation and jealousy unless the guy is a disembodied dick surrogate.

A tertiary issue is when the cum section's scene involves the male talent finishing himself and moaning. This is not what I'm here for, and I don't understand why others use it so much. Necessity? You get attached to the scene and then realize that the finish is garbage, I could understand that.

A recipe for hardcore success, for me, is a POV scene, or a scene where the girl is in control or otherwise seems to be enjoying herself immensely. In videography terms, when the subject of the scene is no longer the girl, but the guy, then I start to dissociate from it.
A Ghoul Editor wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 10:16 am The specific reason for my curiosity are the patterns I notice mainly in the aforementioned pmv/emp/reddit/pornhub sphere. Who is making all these rnb, trap music, interracial pmvs? Is it white guys who are just into it? Is it black guys? Jews? I would like to know more.

For example, I wouldn't be surprised if hentype was black.
That is a... bold... assumption, no?

For starters, rnb, rap, and trap music have permeated every layer of American society. I can't speak for the rest of the world, though it seems like the culture of this music has been adopted, at least aesthetically, by many different people.

Furthermore, much of the music that we all enjoy today has African roots. As dark as it may be, Gospel comes from American slave songs, which influenced blues, jazz, rnb, which influenced rock music and dance music in general.

The interracial trope is, in my analysis, a relic of racist traditions. If you search "interracial" the first 10 results are likely a black man, or multiple black men fucking a singular white woman. I believe that this is the most popular "interracial" format because of the same reasons that I like "The Cummoner:" watching a woman be ravaged by "the other" evokes a certain kind of enjoyable fear, especially when she seems to be into it.

However, these people are people and not monsters. Their otherness is mostly a construct of systemic generational racial conflicts. Porn directors introduce these men in a similar light as orcs; they have no tenderness, they're only told to destroy.

Now, in the case of my own particular preferences, I find it difficult to get into these "interracial" scenes because of my aforementioned disposition on hardcore content. Even if it's POV, I have difficulty getting into the scene because the actor does not accurately depict me and my whiteness.
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kerkersklave wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:44 am I don't like the negative tone of the first article.
People that enjoy masturbation or have some kinks he did not hear if are weird to this guy.
He should get the stick out of his ass unless it turns him on.
I totally agree. Unnecessarily making a jackass out of himself on that piece. Well said
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