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Hey all,

Long-time lurker here. A summary of this post is provided at the bottom.

Just a bit about me: I went through puberty at a very young age (maybe 10 or so) and discovered the joys of internet porn at around 12 or 13. I've never been much of a ladies' man, getting my first girlfriend and my first sexual experience at around 22 (more on this later). All throughout this time, I've masturbated an average of once a day (maybe around 5 times a week on average). I started playing Cock Heros from Cock Hero 4, and have played almost all of them (the toughest one I can pass is Inferno - Canto I, and the easiest one I fail on is supermokkori's Stroker Ace 3).


What follows (as you can perhaps guess from the title), is a warning about porn in general and Cock Heros in particular.

Around 6 years ago, after about 2-3 weeks of courting my first girlfriend, we were about to have sex. I fingered her for a bit, and ate her out for a bit. I then tried to have sex with her, but suddenly I couldn't get hard. As is understandable, my girlfriend at the time was not very supportive and that was the end of that. I chalked it up to being tired (it was around 6AM), and didn't make too much of it.

About a month later, I was in Thailand and "picked up" a girl at a bar (I didn't realise it at the time, but she was obviously a hooker). I was pretty drunk, and we went home. I put on a condom, and we proceeded to have some pretty hot sex for an hour or so (this was me losing my virginity). It felt pretty great, but I could not cum at all. She eventually got sick of it and sore, so we stopped. I ended up jacking off next to her to finish, which felt satisfying anyway. We repeated this in the morning (an hour of hot sex before I jacked off). I chalked this up to me being unable to cum with a condom on.

For the next 5 years or so, I had no girlfriends and no sex. I got pretty unlucky in the Philippines with the ladies, but otherwise didn't really try anywhere else. I watched a documentary about porn around two years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU, and quit porn for a few months. It didn't motivate me to do anything though, and I decided that I didn't care about getting into a relationship. I went back to porn. Soon after, I'd discovered Cock Hero which felt pretty much as good as sex had been anyway.

About a year ago, I went to Thailand again, on the way back from Korea and Japan. I went out one night, got moderately drunk, and went home with another prostitute (not intending to, but she was irresistably hot). Again I put on a condom, and had hot sex for around an hour before we gave up. Again, I ended up jacking off onto her. Again, I chalked it up to not being able to cum with a condom on or maybe being drunk.

Throughout the course of my travels, I had been a bit of a voyeur, reading online about Nuru Massages and Blowjob Bars in Japan, and then about Blowjob Bars in Thailand (from the single man travel and rockitreports sites). I finally went to a fairly well known and highly regarded blowjob bar in Bangkok, after about three to five days of not masturbating or cumming (the last time was with the hooker). I picked the most attractive girl there, paid her, and she proceeded to blow me for about 10 mins (no condom). It felt pretty good, but I could not cum. Arguably, her technique wasn't so great. She then called over an older, far less attractive lady over. She then blew me for about 10 mins as well. I finally came (first time someone else had finished me off) when she stuck a finger in my butt (not fully in). When I went home I found out that the older lady was actually one of the best at that bar when it came to technique! I didn't go back to that place.

Later in Thailand, I started using Tinder. I went on some dates, and ended up bringing one girl back to my place. It'd been two or three days since the blowjob bar, and I was really horny and awake, but again I couldn't get it up all night (condom on).

After Thailand, I visited Vietnam. I'd read online about their blowjob bars too. The girls in Vietnam were far hotter, and their technique was great, but I had the same problem. It was a lot tougher for me to cum, and they'd pretty much all ask me what was wrong. All the same, I probably went back around 10 or so times, and they made me cum each time. I didn't masturbate at all in Vietnam for the course of a month. Towards the end of it, it was still taking me quite a while to finish. I also visited a relatively high-end massage place that did a body massage and then hand relief. I had the same problem there with taking too long. I went back home after this, and went back to porn.

A few months after this, I was in Australia and found a prostitute online who did no-condom blowjobs. I visited her after a few days of not masturbating. She was one of the hottest women I'd ever seen. She gave me a massage, and then a really good blowjob. It still took me a while to cum, but not as long as in Asia.

Around two months ago, I entered into a more serious relationship. I stopped masturbating and stopped watching porn. After about a week of this, we tried to have sex. Despite being aroused all through the day, I could not get it up. Luckily, she was very supportive and this was not the end. We tried again the next night. We had sex in various positions for the next hour or so, before I finished myself. We repeated this the next few days, eventually ditching the condoms. She tried everything to finish me, but it was nearly impossible. After over a week of this, I was finally able to cum inside her. Over the next month, I was able to cum inside her every time, with growing ease. About a week ago, however, we were having sex with a condom on (private reasons), and I was again unable to cum.

I'm 28, and I'm a very healthy, uncircumcised (this might matter) male besides this. I don't abuse drugs and I don't drink too much. I highly suspect that porn in general and cock hero in particular can really rewire your brain, making it tougher to get aroused and far tougher to orgasm. In my personal experience, this has led to erectile dysfunction and sexual problems. These problems can erode your confidence in the future by providing your brain with memories of times past. In terms of actual sensations, to me sensation or enjoyment scale looks something like:

unprotected sex > unprotected blowjob > cock hero > sex with condom > porn

To me, the difference between porn and sex in terms of sensations isn't that huge, so I would say that unless this was something that really bothered you, it is possible to go without.

Feel free to reply or PM me if you have any questions. I will check every few days.

THE TL;DR: porn + cock heros caused me to have erectile dysfunction and other sexual problems. These eventually stopped once I stopped watching porn and playing cock hero. Be careful.

This man talks about the phenomenon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
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Excessive masturbation/porn can result in ED issues with sex. "Everything in moderation" probably applies here.

Another common contributing factor is many guys grip way too tight while masturbating (the "death grip") which conditions us to be unable to cum in looser environments like a mouth or pussy.

I've seen a few CHCs with text instructions saying "squeeze it tighter!" - that one always makes me cringe. Just say no to the Death Grip!
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zoltan wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:33 am Another common contributing factor is many guys grip way too tight while masturbating (the "death grip") which conditions us to be unable to cum in looser environments like a mouth or pussy.
Yep that's true. It's really difficult even as a young-ish fit-ish male to recreate these sensations with real sex.
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Yes but apparently the same thing happens to women who use vibrators too much, men can't vibrate so she can have a hard time to get off with sex if she uses a vibrator too much.

The way I think of it is like exercise.
Say having sex is like running around the block. If you are out of shape, by the time you run around the block you will be tired.

But if you are training for a marathon (playing cockhero a lot and masturbating constantly) then running around the block won't even get your heart pumping.... You will be looking for something that is harder and will take longer/more effort/stimulation.

So it will be harder to get to the point of arousal where you would get excited from something less demanding such as having sex.

So if you want to be able to have better sex, then yes you need to stop or seriously cut back on masturbation and porn. Or perhaps just practice masturbation without porn where you use your imagination more.

The other thing too that most people don't realize is "head space" These are the thoughts that go through your head when you are masturbating or having sex.

When you are watching porn you dont need much imagination... all these beatiful images are filling your headspace and making you aroused. Cock hero is even worse for that because of the fast cuts and music so by just processing what is going on is super arousing.

With real sex you have to keep your head in the right place (pun intended) you have to think how hot she is, how kinky she is how lucky you are to be there etc to keep hard and stay excited about what is going on. If you turn you brain on passive mode like you would do when watching porn then yeah she cant bombard your brain like a cock hero vid can so you will have trouble staying excited.
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Just don't give a fuck, woman don't fuck men with 5 and a half inch dicks so i i beat my dick like it owes me money.
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Hello to ANYONE having trouble with anything that he or she might think is porn addiction. Here's one useful set of links that you can try:

yourbrainonporn.com
yourbrainrebalanced.com

The first is informational pages (with, IMO, a LOT of pseudo-science) about neurotransmitters and what might go wrong with excess porn usage. The second is a set of typical-looking PHP-based discussion boards for people to gather and help one another to combat porn addiction. I like the discussion boards because (just like, generally, also seems to be the case at Milovana) people let you have your preferences, and take your sincerity for granted, and offer either help and support or merely silence. They don't get all negative at you.
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Haggard316 wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:13 pm Just don't give a fuck, woman don't fuck men with 5 and a half inch dicks so i i beat my dick like it owes me money.
By the time you're in the bedroom chances are she'll have you even if you've got half a dick. I'm just over 5.5 inches anyway. Pretty sure the average is only 6, and I'm not sure that statistic accounts for Indian men.
Cybertoad wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:23 pm Now saying a warning about CH, is kinda silly as any thing you do that substitutes the intimacy in your life will affect you. It also why you will find many people in this group do cool down periods that keep it fresh and have it be mundane and makes CH entertainment not a replacement for sex. As I have said........................" moderation " in most every thing is the key.
Just sharing my personal experiences here. I'm not sure I could continue to enjoy porn in moderation. It really affects me.

It can be a real blow to a woman's confidence if you don't orgasm. Blue balls are pretty frustrating too! But point taken for sure. Sex is still fun and a great workout.


FYI, It could well be different for others (IMO especially if you are circumcised), with other porn preferences and habits. I also think that porn could be fine instead of sex/relationships. Cock Heros in particular felt really good as a replacement.
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annonemous4321 wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:27 am
Haggard316 wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:13 pm Just don't give a fuck, woman don't fuck men with 5 and a half inch dicks so i i beat my dick like it owes me money.
By the time you're in the bedroom chances are she'll have you even if you've got half a dick. I'm just over 5.5 inches anyway. Pretty sure the average is only 6, and I'm not sure that statistic accounts for Indian men.
Cybertoad wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:23 pm Now saying a warning about CH, is kinda silly as any thing you do that substitutes the intimacy in your life will affect you. It also why you will find many people in this group do cool down periods that keep it fresh and have it be mundane and makes CH entertainment not a replacement for sex. As I have said........................" moderation " in most every thing is the key.
Just sharing my personal experiences here. I'm not sure I could continue to enjoy porn in moderation. It really affects me.

It can be a real blow to a woman's confidence if you don't orgasm. Blue balls are pretty frustrating too! But point taken for sure. Sex is still fun and a great workout.


FYI, It could well be different for others (IMO especially if you are circumcised), with other porn preferences and habits. I also think that porn could be fine instead of sex/relationships. Cock Heros in particular felt really good as a replacement.
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I used to struggle with the theme myself, and have been wondering if I should start a discussion.. might as well piggyback my rant onto this thread.. althou, after posting this ... just remind me not to Doxx myself, ever ... :-)

A quick outline of my porn past.. started going down that rabbithole with the birth of interwebs, slowly but surely wanting/needing harder and harder stuff to get off to. At the worst points trying to force some reaction out of a limp noodle with nothing happening. (In retrospect, that's simply a case of not wanting to wank and not realising it .. I was also using wanking as a sleeping aid at the time, didn't really help well, sleeping OR wanking - failing doesn't make it easier to sleep, and trying to wank "just" to sleep easier is just begging for failures...)

Anyhoo, my rabbithole took me thru the BDSM genre all the way to "tieing her down with cast iron strips and making her tits bleed by piercing them with rows of medical syringes" ... I never even wanted to find that arousing, so I was about at the peak "roughness" for me. And failing more often than not. I had liked some hypno files I'd ran across, so I figured I'd try something different. Looking for more, I ended up .. here.

Here, the instructed beats and femdom stuff of the teases were, I dunno, personal enough?.. to get me hooked and for a while I was scurrying along happily. Early cock heros were actually getting me off relatively surely, some were completely impossible. And then, quite quickly, I learned to "control myself"* to complete the games. Great for gaming, but soon enough I was back between "can't even get properly hard" and "do I really want to be doing this". I had broken my next "sure thing".

*That "control" was one-directional, I could desensitive myself, disconnect, but not the other way, couldn't turn myself on.

At some point here, someone pasted a pdf doc of some mystic oriental mumbo jumbo called The Multi-Orgasmic Man (I'm only dissing it in a retrospective jest, I have a bit more respect to it now). While it didn't do anything to me at the time, it did give me the idea of starting to actually learn how I tick. (The self loathing desperation does something to motivation too, sure... :-) )

I crafted some silly slideshow games, for example "how slow can I come" .. started at some BPM (or strokes per pic) and reduced the number by 10% every time I came. (Personal best at 11 BPM, took an hour sure, but that's 5 secs a stroke.. :-) ) This game was probably the best single thing I did, mentally. Knowing I can, and slowly figuring out the head space I need to be in. And also accepting that sometimes the head space just isn't going to be there..

I listened to those hypnos I had already liked with a "mental training" attitude and they worked a lot better. An HFO file still doesn't actually get me off, but damn if I'm not 90% there afterwards .. :-) For a purpose outside of the relaxation session, they're great for finding sexy ideas as seeds for imagination. Quite often very simple, but effective..

I realised (/accepted?) I have no "real" control over a boner.. about the same as I have over my heartbeat.. I can slow it down by focusing, but I can't stop it, or vice versa. With my heartbeat I need to RUN, to get it going.. with a boner, I need to "be" in arousing situation. The situation can be imaginary, but I (my mind, focus, w/e) have to BE in it. Not in the coming ejaculation, not in the "wanting of wanting of arousal" but in that exact moment of the trip. It's a bit trippy to explain ;-)

I also went back to read that pdf-book (Mantak Chia, The Multi-Orgasmic Man) a couple times since. I'm not pushing any of the myths in it - personally I ignored the "spiritual" explanations - just went along as mental exercise, trying to find "the things that actually happen to me that could be described like that". There's also some good physical tips and tricks that may or may not work, but checking what they "do" will teach one something about themselves... Getting to multiple orgasms..? No idea. But it seems this'll be a life long trip anyway, because now, a couple years in, even while just wanking I'm now "enjoying the trip more than the destination".

OK, that last paragraph sounds like I work in an ad agency, sorry... btw, here's a link copied from elsewhere on the forum :-)
http://lipn.univ-paris13.fr/~duchamp/Bo ... ic_Man.pdf

TL;DR It's not the porn exactly, it's what you train yourself into while at it.
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spaisin wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:10 pm Here, the instructed beats and femdom stuff of the teases were, I dunno, personal enough?.. to get me hooked and for a while I was scurrying along happily. Early cock heros were actually getting me off relatively surely, some were completely impossible. And then, quite quickly, I learned to "control myself"* to complete the games. Great for gaming, but soon enough I was back between "can't even get properly hard" and "do I really want to be doing this". I had broken my next "sure thing".

*That "control" was one-directional, I could desensitive myself, disconnect, but not the other way, couldn't turn myself on
Great post, spaisin. I noticed a similar phenomenon with Cock Hero when I got obsessed with it early on. I didn't get as far down the rabbit hole as you did, but when I noticed the trend I cut back on it.

I have been in that space before where it felt like I was masturbating out of habit, not because I wanted to. And when I finished to a weak orgasm, I'd say to myself "I knew that orgasm was going to be disappointing during the entire session - why did I pursue it? I could have waited a day or two and had a much better one."

Cock Hero videos are designed to be a challenge - like "you are so turned on right now but you somehow have to hold back" - if you're not in the right headspace for that, it defeats the entire purpose. It's part of the reason why I ask players to rest 3 days before watching my videos.

Sidebar: Does anyone else love that a new user can come in here and write a long post warning us against the very thing this board is built around, and we develop it into a mature discussion instead of just shouting him down? Milovana is an amazing community.
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zoltan wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:33 am Excessive masturbation/porn can result in ED issues with sex. "Everything in moderation" probably applies here.

Another common contributing factor is many guys grip way too tight while masturbating (the "death grip") which conditions us to be unable to cum in looser environments like a mouth or pussy.

I've seen a few CHCs with text instructions saying "squeeze it tighter!" - that one always makes me cringe. Just say no to the Death Grip!
Sexual/erectile dysfunction is a real problem. I think "Everything in moderation" is probably what should be taken from this discussion. It's possible to become desensitized to almost anything given enough exposure. Additionally, for any given person struggling with these types of problems there may be any number of psychological, physiological, and environmental (wearing a condom typically reduces sensation for most men) factors at work that render most speculation (including my own) pointless.

Thanks for sharing, OP.
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spaisin wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:10 pmTL;DR
I concur.
spaisin wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:10 pmIt's not the porn exactly, it's what you train yourself into while at it.
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zoltan wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:48 pm Sidebar: Does anyone else love that a new user can come in here and write a long post warning us against the very thing this board is built around, and we develop it into a mature discussion instead of just shouting him down? Milovana is an amazing community.
Yes, indeed.

I don't know any other community out of the walls of my language/country (spanish and spain forums), and I'm impressed with this community and specially, like you said, with what happened with this thread. I was expecting some kind of rage against OP too.

The only downside is that Milovana doesn't have an Off-Topic subforum in order to talk about anything non sex related.

I'm starting to consider joining Reddit, as it is a huge community and it has threads for roughly everything you can imagine. And more. Any of you guys is on Reddit and encourages me to join it? Even if English is not my first language.
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Alex69 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:31 pm I'm starting to consider joining Reddit, as it is a huge community and it has threads for roughly everything you can imagine. And more. Any of you guys is on Reddit and encourages me to join it? Even if English is not my first language.
Reddit leans very hard on its voting system and on "hot" threads. It has two main problems:

1. It doesn't do a good job of fostering long discussions, because a post can only remain "hot" for about a day before it sinks into oblivion. Most people visit the comments of a topic one time and never come back. A multi-day discussion like the one we're in right now doesn't really happen over there.

2. The voting system squelches unpopular opinions. If the majority disagree with something you said, they can vote it down until it's invisible, discouraging dissenting opinions and discussion.

For those reasons, I don't think Reddit is a great place for discussion/community. However, Reddit is divided into many smaller subreddits, some of which are really good. If you create an account, try unsubscribing to all the "default" subreddits (except /r/aww because who doesn't want dog pics in their feed) and then add a bunch that suit your interests. Here are some of my favorites to get you started:
  • /r/askhistorians: A very well-moderated community that asks historical questions and only allows properly sourced historically sound answers.
  • /r/buildapc: If you're into computers and enjoy building them or learning how, this is a really friendly and helpful community.
  • /r/games: A gaming community that has banned memes and low-effort content.
  • /r/hockey: The people in this community are hilarious. Even if you haven't discovered how great hockey is yet, and think you don't care, the posts and discussion here are consistently amazing. For example, this gif of a sad ref taking a faceoff by himself is one of the most popular posts of the past week.
  • /r/spacex: Great place to keep up with Elon Musk's increasingly realistic goals of colonizing Mars.
  • /r/outoftheloop: Fun community where people ask "what is this new weird thing people keep saying/doing and where did it come from". Basically a "what are these weird kids up to now" board.
  • /r/talesfromtechsupport: Stories from IT support people and the amazingly dumb things that their clients/coworkers/managers do.
  • /r/gonewildaudio: Amateurs recording sexy MP3s for others to get off to, and sharing scripts to support the former. Since amateur audio porn is a pretty small niche, the community is unusually polite and close-knit considering the subject matter
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My experiences in the subject:

I was quit porn once for about 10 months. Even topless pictures. What happened:

Pros:
- I realized my addiction
- desensitization against porn was highly reduced
- masturbated less (result of cons #1)

Cons:
- masturbation sessions were getting more and more boring
- sexual appetite were more and more imbalanced
- my sexual performance reduced (I came faster) with girls (imbalanced sexual appetite and getting more sensitive for sex with penetration)

I didn't experienced better interpersonal connections, less depression or became a lady's man.

I thought about doing "nofap" as well but:
- humans (even some animals) are masturbating 200 000 years+ -> it is part of our sexual life / health
- I just getting more distracted and stressed as days go by without fapping

So I went back to porn.

What did I learn? I recognize my sexual addiction levels and patterns so I'm free to decide how deep I go into that rabbithole. If I have a girlfriend I come out more. If I'm single I go down deeper. But not deep enough to become obsessed anymore. And that's all.

Having problems with hookers? I have a success rate of maintaining erection and cumming with them about 25%. Success rate with girl that I actually attached to emotionally: bareback 95% (sometimes I ""overfuck" myself and getting too tired to cum), with condom 70% (I got bored because the lack of stimulation). Over the years I realized: girls I didn't want to fuck for seriously (subconscious as well) I just can't. I either come too quickly (want to get over it) or can't get / maintain erection (too much stress with the situation / didn't want to do it at all).

Porn and sex with other person is not the same for me. For my sexual/mental health I need sex with myself. I can do it either with the support of my fantasy or use external material. My fantasy is shitty so I use external material. If the external material doesn't replace my need of another person in my sexual life it's perfectly fine for me. If I realize that I getting sucked by porn/masturbation -> I step back consciously. This resulted a naturally mindfulness approach for my sexuality and from this point I started to find a new side of my psyche and explore how my sexual life actually works and interconnected with my other habits.


Btw negative physical changes in the brain are not resulted by watching porn itself (except desensitization against porn) but the addiction that develops in you. And addiction does not develop because you watch porn but because your mental health is not in a very good shape.
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