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book_guy wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:37 amMaybe my phone isn't nice enough? I think Moto G5 Plus is a good phone, ought to have a high enough quality processor and screen?
That phone is steaming hot garbage for VR. Please don't base your experience on this! You really need it on PC at current technology level to get a great experience. Some of the 5k videos on Vive/Rift are Godlike
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jackstock wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:32 am
book_guy wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:37 amMaybe my phone isn't nice enough? I think Moto G5 Plus is a good phone, ought to have a high enough quality processor and screen?
That phone is steaming hot garbage for VR. Please don't base your experience on this! You really need it on PC at current technology level to get a great experience. Some of the 5k videos on Vive/Rift are Godlike
Dude, there's no way to watch it on PC unless you're going to strap the entire laptop to your face. I'm deliberately limiting my experience to only playback in terms of using a goggle-headset type set-up, in which you use the phone inside the headset. I'm sure that on PC the experience is highly enhanced over on phone. But, in so far as I'm assuming that I'm going to be using a phone, how would I improve the experience?

Or, just, don't try with a phone?
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For bookguy: It seems that most VR videos are being put out in 4k or 5k, your phone (Moto G5P) is supported only up to 1920 x 1080. Sure you can play some videos on it, but the good stuff is being put out in UHD so it would be hard to judge it. The best stuff, from what I hear, is coming out for HTC and OCCULUS which require a powerful desktop or VR ready laptop to process the videos. Gear VR is just using your phone. Even with the best Samsung or Apple phone out, you just cant compare a phone to a desktop with a good processor, video card, and RAM. I recently built a PC that could handle VR, but $600 for a VR rig just seems a bit much to me for now.

As with almost all things in life, you get what you pay for. The primary question is whether or not it is worth the money to you. I think we will see many on both sides of the fence on this one. As far as editing a CH for VR, I would imagine it would be pretty complex. Then again, I know absolutely nothing about editing VR and I am just making assumptions. There are still many people out there that don't have the monitor or rig to watch 4K videos let alone run a 5k VR video.
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Ok so the understanding I'm gaining is, that I just can't get a high-caliber experience while using ANY phone. But IF I am going to use a phone, then is there ANY way to get a medium-caliber experience?
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book_guy wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:32 am Ok so the understanding I'm gaining is, that I just can't get a high-caliber experience while using ANY phone. But IF I am going to use a phone, then is there ANY way to get a medium-caliber experience?
YES! As I said previously, I use my Samsung Galaxy 7 and my GearVR headset. While not earth-shattering I guarantee it's still better than just okay. Mine plays 2880 x 1440 which is still far superior to your 1080 that was mentioned.

You get what you paid for is a good adage, but the difference in cost between a GearVR headset $75.00 on Amazon, and the cost of getting an Occulus/Rift system and computer to run it (circa $2500.00) is no where near the disparity of the experience between the two - as it comes to enjoying VR porn. Will it be better on PC? Absolutely. But the cost is just too prohibitive for just porn. A phone is something most people are going to have anyways, so it's not an extra cost for most people like a new top-shelf desktop PC would be. And when you stop paying off your phone (usually 2 years) you can still use it as a storage/play device w/ the headset. So you're only needing to pay out the 70-so bucks for a headset. I promise and guarantee you that GearVR porn is worth a $70 purchase!!!

NOW - if you're talking you want a system to enjoy full-on VR Gaming! NOW there's a conversation worth agreeing that the cost upgrade w/ a desktop PC is practical and on par with the performance and experience disparity.
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you could consider Oculus Go.

It has its own browser and you can put movies on it. Also it is completely wireless, no PC needed, and has better screen/lens technology than regular Oculus Rift. I would give it a go (no pun intended)
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Yes. Oculus Go is the best VR Headset.
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galaxy s9 + gearVR

almost oculus GO quality, can play oculus GO intended files, and is also a phone.

For me, this was definitely a step up from the $20 VR headsets + random phone. or even $50 headsets + random phone

I'd imagine this applies to oculus GO as well, but the GearVR immerses you much better. Agree with tittyluvr, find undisturbed time, get real good headphones.. all help with the immersion.

@Book_guy, I've seen your posts about this matter and I apologize for not chiming up sooner but I hadn't realized that you wanted a primer of the level that you posted. I read through it and I feel that to further frustrate your experience, you have been using bad sources. As someone with access to empornium, please tell me you at least tried to obtain some source material from the big name producers. They're getting better all the time with viewing angles. This guy does a good analysis of which video has good production: https://3dpornreviews.com/ It also helps when the girl is aware that she's now doing VR. Some actresses make a good transition and some don't. Like Tittyluvr said, when the right girl practically snuggles up to you and stares right into your eyes, I swear, I sometimes smell the perfume... Is it 100% of the video? probably not, but for a few minutes, like hypnosis, if you're willing, it's good enough to trick your brain into a questionable place at least. Gina Valentina did it to me in Semen Demons. Daymn, Gina.

Having a good player as you surmised helps with the experience. For everyone, it'll be different, but personally, I've chosen SkyBox lately and used it's PC "casting" piece so that I never need to actually copy the files over to my phone. This allows me to have huge chunks of my stash available on tap. I've heard MoonVR and Pigasus might be good as well. MoonVR feels a little like SkyBox but Pigasus I haven't tried yet. Random GearVR + Reddit threads have helped with this choice.

As you've experienced, having the wrong phone + software definitely adds to the struggle. Having a phone geared towards VR .. heh.. pun intended? :) definitely smoothed things out a little (like you don't have to match qr codes for headsets) but still required some messing around to get to a good place. I agree with tittyluvr, the GearVR setup (and possibly oculus go) is definitely good enough and worth it considering you don't wanna blow a grand on porn. It definitely helped enhance his Inferno even on a 2D level because now you can handsfree the screen and not be stuck near a computer :D Good enough, that when I took the goggles off, I did feel like I was somewhere else and ... wait, when did it become morning already?
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Hey thanks for all the info! I'm still experimenting. If you read my other post (linked?) you'll see that I tried out a buncha the cheaper headgear ... basically, anything I could snap my phone into the front of ... and had some opinions on that matter. But I was assuming that I would certainly not change smartphones, nor would I purchase anything which was so expensive that it could operate on its own without any smartphone clipped into the front of it. Sounds like a lot of participants in this particular thread are generally saying that these assumptions (only use my current smartphone, a Moto G5 Plus) are essentially part of the problem. Well, sorry, ain't gonna go more expensive than that, not for the present time-being. I promise that at next phone-upgrade time, I'll reconsider which smartphone, on the basis partly of the factor of VR compatibility (but of course, I can't guarantee what weight that factor will have). Especially to InfamousPlantain, I git ya, the immersive experience. It's like hypno-world, you admit to yourself that you aren't going to admit that it's a fantasy, thus choosing to allow the fantasy to be in charge of making the choices. :)

So, just for now, assuming a Moto G5 Plus ... and assuming I hate the download-and-transfer cycle and would therefore entirely prefer to view streaming videos ... cain't nobody make this current phone work adequately for me to really enjoy the free streaming VR stuff on Pornhub? No? Drat. Merely having the hands-free and not-tied-to-computer experiences would probably be of some benefit?

Nevertheless, all the info here-in is useful to me and other pornsters, so, I'm glad we're having this discussion.

Oh, and, another (only barely related) inquiry. I recently got a decent pair of Bluetooth headphones. But then I discovered that they SERIOUSLY interfere with my internet wi-fi. I am soooo disappointed. I have tried tweaking the wi-fi settings on the router, changing channels, that kind of thing, but so far I haven't really gotten much improvement. I basically can't use the Bluetooth-phones for porn streaming. But that was the point. It seems, basically, that any of the streaming videos from Pornhub will simply quit playing unless I turn my laptop's Bluetooth antenna OFF. Y'all have any thoughts, suggestions?
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book_guy wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:48 pm Oh, and, another (only barely related) inquiry. I recently got a decent pair of Bluetooth headphones. But then I discovered that they SERIOUSLY interfere with my internet wi-fi. I am soooo disappointed. I have tried tweaking the wi-fi settings on the router, changing channels, that kind of thing, but so far I haven't really gotten much improvement. I basically can't use the Bluetooth-phones for porn streaming. But that was the point. It seems, basically, that any of the streaming videos from Pornhub will simply quit playing unless I turn my laptop's Bluetooth antenna OFF. Y'all have any thoughts, suggestions?
You need to see if both your modem/router and laptop can operate on 5ghz and switch to that if possible. BT operates on the 2.5ghz range and can interfere with your WiFi. You could also try changing the channel your modem operates on, this could be easy or complicated depending on how many neighbors you have close by. Channels can mess with one another.
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book_guy wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:48 pm ...
Just wanted to back up others that the 3d I've seen I've had a good experience with oculus and an s7 with gear VR, they both felt just fine.

For your post some of the complaints, I think your source material was bad. First off the 3d effect, it can be sometimes good to bad depending on the studio. I've had some that are nothing more than flat dome videos you can look around in, or some that do have the two images but it feels flat.

The quality also has a fallout if you resolution goes too low. It can make a huge difference if the quality tips under some threshold. Another thing that'll hurt is if you get skippy playback or low framerate, it can throw you off. I have a geforce 970 on my pc but I can't play h265 videos back (which are the high quality now) without slowdown and audio desync, and I have less of a good time with that.

As for positioning yourself, a lot of the PC oculus and the gearVR's video players have position adjustments. Mostly you can just alter the tilt of the video a bit. There is often a perspective issue where the camera is on the actors chest, so to get your face where the camera is you have to crane your neck 90 degrees and thrust it down your chest. While MOST of the better studios have this solved (occasionally they screw it up) you can usually tweak videos into position fine. Also, many of the players have a quick recenter button, so what you can do is just keep adjusting your head and tapping it until you find everything just aligned.

I saw my post in this thread in 2016 and I was really jazzed up on it. I would say that for the first few months I actually trembled in anticipation when someone would get close to you in VR and the angle of the filming was right, it was insane. I actually had a HFO after following along with a video manually and stopping because I was so engaged with the thing, it was crazy.

But if you ask me now it's a lot harder to get that excited. I don't even really try to go crazy positioning myself like in the video or lining things up, I tend to think of them more as like, really immersive porn. It's something we don't usually pick up on but camera's alter the shape of people. In 3d when the proportions are right, it's like a new person. There are some women I really like in 3d but aren't into in 2d, and visa versa. It's really interesting to see what the porn stars actually look like in person and it can be really engaging.

So in the past I tried to just get everything VR, but now I am back to the old style pick and choosing scenes and actors where it comes together. I have yet to attempt to work a real touch or any of the newer automated things into VR but I imagine that with the right attachment and script for it you're basically getting as close to being with a person as possible without being with them.

Also some of the VR games are making nice strides. There's something even more engaging about interacting with a porn model in room scale VR. Most of the games that exit now either have an issue of bad models or limited gameplay unfortunately. There is A LOT of potential though for immersion with well made software that had more engaging animations and positioning.

If you search for posts I've made on 'on videos' there are a few hypnosis VR driven ones. The gear VR version are on mega and should be good quality material to help you judge.

Content provider wise I like badoinkVR the most. I like their quality or scenes and girls the most. Right equal with them is wankz VR. Most of the other big names are just fine too depending on the content type they are going for.

The best VR games I found were honeyselect, custom maid 3d, and there's a really promising patreon driven one called virt-a-mate. Right now though the game feels very much like an animation studio rather than a porn game. I feel like with a shit load of work though doing a tease played out in that game would be a mind blowing experience.

Anyway it's been a fun few years with VR and there's so much tech right here that just needs to be put together right for some great experiences. I don't know how long away it all is though.
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And once you get the whole VR thing down easily, the next amazing venture to experiment with would be synced VR porn with something like Fleshlight Launch.

I loved Semen Demons w/ Gina Valentina. She was incredible in that one. There are number of great videos. Jessa Rhoades and Nicole Aniston (especially her Naughty America stuff) is indescribable and enough to blow a load completely hands free.

Somethings do not translate well to VR for me though. Squirting looks okay and interesting fetish in regular porn, but the first time I saw it happen in VR thanks to Adriana Chechik - I freaked out as it sprayed at my face! LOL Then I laughed hard as I realized the reality I thought I was in.

Something I do to help when I need or want to really immerse myself, is watch a few non-porn VR stuff or just some stripping stuff like Stasy Q or SinsVR - or non-porn like panoramic views of the world or flying or something to drift into that zone and allow my mind to wander - then start a video and watch the gal walk into the room.....it's like you can really touch them.

I usually lay with pillows or cushions on my thighs and stomach to give the illusion of weight of someone there which is another mind trick for the overall experience. Blue Tooth earphones help with not having cords dangling from the phone to my ears, too.
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@Book_guy,

if you're still stuck on your hardware (which I was myself for a while), I highly recommend you find the right software and source material to make the most out of it. The previous posters all mentioned good sources so I second those .. wankzvr, badoinkvr, sexbabesvr, realitylovers, and even confirmation from tittyluvr for a specific wankzvr vid called semen demons. :) For software, as I mentioned in my last posting, see if skybox works out for ya. It's player has good positional adjustments, menus, tweaks, but most importantly it'll let you stream from your PC so you don't have to do the downloading bit (that got to be a huge drag for me too). There's two parts to this if you want that functionality. You install the PC app, and then the phone app, put your phone and PC on the same wifi network and set up on the PC app what you want to stream out. When you launch the phone app, you should be able to see the PC in the airscreen section and stream in what you set up on the PC side.
Lastly, I think with your phone, you'll have to find the right versions of the sources. Usually, you'll see oculus/vive, oculus go, gearvr, and finally smartphone. They're separated by what resolutions they were encoded at. The smartphone version is probably the one that will work for you since it would usually have the lowest resolution. You can experiment with the gearVR version, but I know when I had my old phone, I had to reencode them to reduce their resolution to get it to work. That got tedious too so it was such a relief when I got the gearVR.

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Oculus Go is by far the best option at the current time if youre just viewing videos. For the full PC experience it will cost you a TON more (like 1200-1600 USD for computer and headset) but it will only be about 20% better than the Oculus Go, at a mere 200 USD
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I just got my occulus.

I was wondering if it is possible to use CH player or another player to sync the estim with the video on occulus

anyone has an idea? other than pressing play on both at the same time :lol:
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