[RELEASE] Stroker Ace 3 (No, it's not a joke)

[drdd2000]

This video is truly excellent! It's a great way to end the Stroker Ace series. If I had to give it a rating, I'd say it's about 95% as great as Stroker Ace 2, which is one of the best and most challenging CH vids ever. The only reason 5% is missing is because it's not quite as intensely challenging as SA2 *until* you get to the last third/reward. But when you do, holy shit. Congrats, Supermokkori! I can't wait to see what other projects you're working on. This was definitely worth the wait.

[fapmandoo]

This, good sir, is one for the ages. I've always appreciated your aversion to including really fake looking women in your videos. Quite frankly this is something that I wish other Cock Hero creators would take into account when making their videos. You do not disappoint on this front. Lots of natural breasts, girl next door types, and veteran porn stars that still look like a cute chick you would know in person (i.e. Lexi Belle).

I actually didn't think that this was exceptionally difficult, but I consider that a plus when I can finish a Cock Hero without having a really tired arm or a dick that feels like it's on fire.

I don't mind all the text either. The best Cock Hero vids get into your brain, and there's no better way to do that than to add a little bit of story and explanation.
Overall this is excellent. I only remember there being one or two girls that I wish didn't show up in this video. That's the smallest amount of any Cock Hero I've seen. Thanks for putting this out!

[supermokkori]

Appreciate all the tremendous feedback, so thank so much for that. I would also like to hear any critical or bad feedback specifically - always looking to improve on the technique and while I won't be doing any huge video tease projects like this in the forseeable future, always want to hear what didn't work for people to see what can be done make it work.

Great job! It saddens me that this is the final Stroker Ace, but you went out with a bang. The pacing, build up and selection of girls is excellent. I wish more cock hero creators would use more natural girls (as in the absence of silicon and other types of plastic surgery, tattoos, etc).

This, good sir, is one for the ages. I've always appreciated your aversion to including really fake looking women in your videos. Quite frankly this is something that I wish other Cock Hero creators would take into account when making their videos. You do not disappoint on this front. Lots of natural breasts, girl next door types, and veteran porn stars that still look like a cute chick you would know in person (i.e. Lexi Belle).

Thanks texas and fapmandoo for the kind comments. And I do agree with your feedback about "natural girls." I'm not trying to be too critical of other video tease creators, but it seems to me at least that I keep seeing the same plasticky, fake boobied pornstars over and over again in lots of these teases. It might just be that these types of adult stars usually have the most material out there, so it's easier to incorporate... or maybe that's the preference of most of the video tease creators.

I think that was the hardest CH I ever played, very long but nicely paced, EXTREMELY good choice of girls and scenes, and at first I was a bit reluctant to the "no beat meter" style, but then I understood how much more into the action I got when I didn't have to pay attention to a bottom bar.

That was sooo difficult to beat, especially with all those edges, you really did put the player to the ultimate test ! I chose Megan at the beginning, so I guess you understand now how much more difficult it has been for me to last long enough for her, but I eventually gathered my inner strength and did it, but man, what a ride !
Congratulations !!

Thanks redno, for giving this video tease a chance, despite the lack of a Stroke Beat meter. While it doesn't allow the video teases I make to have the fluidity or flexibility of instant Stroke pattern changes that other CH creators can enjoy and explore, it does allow the viewer to focus a bit more on the action going on. That said, I've often wondered if there was a CH-style video tease with the Stroke Beat meter at the top of the screen instead of the bottom? Maybe it's just me but if a Stroke Beat meter was at the top of the screen, might make viewing the hot action a bit easier. Hmmm

And yes redno, you should be commended if you made it through and got your Reward from Megan.

[book_guy]

Am seeding. Seed seed seed. I'm a smart banana. The rest of you should be too.

Great job! It saddens me that this is the final Stroker Ace.

Yeah, I think that as a series I prefer the Stroker Ace series over all other Cock Hero series. I wish there were more Mr. Edger Self Control releases, because those were good too. But I think generally this is the best of the lot.

Sometimes, for me, the edging-experience doesn't always work ... I'm not so much into it for that, the whole Cock Hero thing isn't about edging for me, I guess. But I see how it works and it's certainly a welcome addition for the novelty's sakes. Doesn't put me over the top or anything, just makes me rather tired out since I have to work so much to get to the edge at all. I guess that makes me an odd-man-out?

Things I like about this (and all) Stroker Ace CH --

• the beat instructions are subtle, but utterly totally intelligible and never confusing
  the beats fit the music properly (stuns me how many CH creators seem to ignore the sound of the music when creating the beat that is supposed to go along with the music)
  the selection of girls, scenes, styles of sex-action are always awesome
  the TYPES of girls, with that "clean girl next door" mixed in with "but she just loves sex" attitude and looks
  the build-up from low-key to super-stimulating to extremely over-the-top porn
  the return to the girls from the start, later in the vid, thus creating tension of anticipation
  the manner in which final round is handled ("pick your girl")
  the anticipation from first announced release-date to finally getting the dang thing !!

Things I didn't like --

(nothing really)

[jackstock]

Pretty phenomenal release.
Some of the real time stroking parts seemed to not make much sense with the beats (though they were mostly good scenes).
Biggest thing for me was that the beat sound was a little too high compared to the music.

over all, plenty of some pretty huge "OH FUCK" moments though.

[lestrian]

Holy shit! By the end of stage 2 I already knew this had become my favorite Cock Hero ever, and I never thought that Flux Dance 1 would be dethroned.

Spoiler: show

I love the feeling when you get a fast beat and suddenly see "in 10 secs, ride the edge"! At first you're like "oh shit", afraid you won't be able to hold it in, but then you get to relax and let everything happen and just enjoy the endorphins instead. It's amazing!

I had my doubts about whether stroking and edging could be combined in a video to good effect. Edging works great in TeaseMe teases since you get to reach the edge at your own pace, and then click a button once you're there, so that you don't miss out on edge holding or rest time. Stroker Ace 2 didn't work well for me - usually I wasn't close to cumming when a "ride the edge" thingy appeared, so I'd have to death grip stroke really fast to get there, and by the time I get to the edge, only a few seconds are left of the riding part. Stroker Edge on the other hand worked really well. The Flux Dance series tries to combine stroking with edging, but at least the way I play it, I try to stay close but slightly below the edge as much as possible, since a too fast beat would make me lose.

Spoiler: show

As for negatives: the real-time stroking is cool, but it always feels a little weird to me. The strokes don't always correspond to strokes on video, and it seems a little out of sync sometimes. I stroke down when I hear a beat, but then my hand does not move the same way as the hand in the video.

Stroker Ace 3 was paced perfectly. I was always close to cumming when asked to edge, and the fast beats before an edge were never too fast or too long for me to hopelessly lose control, which is what I was most worried about, Every time I got to an edge riding part, I was amazed at how perfectly calibrated this was. The slow parts and the breaks were used to great effect as well. You're a genius at this, supermokkori!

The ending was also very well executed. It's a shame you won't make more videos, but I hope this video will inspire people to make more videos in this style.

[qcaxtb]

Thanks Supermokkori!

This was tremendous. I have to be honest here I'm shocked that people are able to make it for over an hour with videos like this! I lost it at around 16 minutes. Not complaining at all because it definitely felt great. Hope I'm not the only one that gets a little too excited watching this. Anyway - fantastic work. I'll try to hold out a little longer to see more of it next time.

Best,
QCA

[brewster]

This is quite nearly a masterpiece. I played it again last night and barely made it beyond my prior losing point. What you've done by keeping the momentum at a high level towards the final 1/4th of the movie by never once letting off, is keep that uber heightened arousal state on the edge of cumming going for so damn long that it becomes euphoric and blissful.

Unfortunately this time my cock wasn't ready, despite having the same stroking technique, I ended up practically rubbing a layer of skin off my cock leaving it a bright strawberry red at the end. My shit was more raw than Eddie Murphy in 1987. I think 1 hour and 30 minutes is far too long for a CH, even a slow teasing one such as this.

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On a different topic: I understand your past experience and confidence in your skills at making a nearly flawless CH (and you practically did). But you should have had someone beta test this (as I should have also done with my previous one). I say this because I feel collaborating, or receiving feedback from a fellow CH creator would have put this over the top. For example: Instead of using text to notify of a beat change, a big circle made in After Effects that unfolds like a pie slice (or a clock) with the beat pattern #'s inside of it would have been a bit easier to follow than "estimating" when 5 seconds is. Also I'd of had quite a few things to say about sprucing up the presentation of the in-between texts. Of course it'd all be at your discretion. I'm merely suggesting.

Brewster if you don't mind, if you can let me know through spoiler tags what 5 second breaks came unexpectedly at times

I don't feel this is a spoiler:
8 40
22 27
29 58
33 05
35 46

There were 2 other times during the final hardcore sections that had unexpected breaks where the text said a beat would be, however I didn't pause the video and write down the timestamps for those, because I was in the zone.

[book_guy]

... torrent users, SEED dangit SEED!

How's the seeding of the torrent going? I can't always be on my computer with porn running, even if the porn is just via a torrent-upload (pretty much have to be here in person to be doing something like that) so I can't seed as much as I think would be "legit." I did seed up to ratio 2 (IIRC) (which, if you don't know, means I gave back twice as much data as I initially took, basically) but I think we're to the point where it's been propagated enough? I dunno ... I hope it shows up on the streaming sites too.

Congrats on finally getting it done, Super Mokkori. I note that your credit at the end says copyright 2012 (IIRC) so that's kind of funny ...

I really think it's awesome. But it's a bit "rougher" than your previous releases -- less slickness, more untried-looking girls, basically more "unprofessional" porn stars and porn scenes. Are you moving into that realm of things? I would love some more of that "non-Hollywood" style. :)

Or maybe not. LOL. I don't think I could handle it! So far I haven't gotten past about minute 24 or so (though I do have the excuse that I got interrupted by people coming over the house, and then I had the dumb idea of returning all the way back to the beginning to start over after I got rid of them ... boy, THAT didn't work ...).

[tnifty]

This was awesome! The real time stroking with beat is just perfect! It felt unpredictable, which is exactly the way a real hand of a woman feels. Do you know of any clips that are mainly RTS with beats? I guess just any old hand job video could be made into such a thing without even beats, but it is nice to know going in that I am going to be taken on an adventure constructed with stroking in mind from its conception (breaks, sexy talk, encouraging text, maybe even a beat meter). Thank you so much for this great work!

[supermokkori]

Yowza - thanks for all the awesome feedback and really do appreciate the critical stuff as well!

Yeah, I think that as a series I prefer the Stroker Ace series over all other Cock Hero series. I wish there were more Mr. Edger Self Control releases, because those were good too. But I think generally this is the best of the lot.

Sometimes, for me, the edging-experience doesn't always work ... I'm not so much into it for that, the whole Cock Hero thing isn't about edging for me, I guess. But I see how it works and it's certainly a welcome addition for the novelty's sakes. Doesn't put me over the top or anything, just makes me rather tired out since I have to work so much to get to the edge at all. I guess that makes me an odd-man-out?

Thanks book_guy for the compliments.

As for edging, i don't think it makes you the odd-man out. It just shows how difficult it is to add the edging component to a video tease versus conventional teases. Everyone is different when it comes to getting to the edge and depending on the content your watching, this will also effect how fast/slow you get there. I think the whole "Edge N' Ride" technique is probably the best way to do it and even then, it's doesn't always work for everyone. I can only make the tease based on my inclinations/standards though I've geared it so it's a bit beyond my usual limits knowing that there are few super strokers here at Milovana.

and yeah, I wish there were more Mr. Edger video teases as well. Very underrated video tease, imho.

Pretty phenomenal release.
Some of the real time stroking parts seemed to not make much sense with the beats (though they were mostly good scenes).
Biggest thing for me was that the beat sound was a little too high compared to the music.

Thanks jackstock for the feedback.

Really, too high? Or did you mean louder than the music? I actually took the "woodblock" stroke beat sound from previous Stroker Ace episodes and toned it down by like an octave and a half, so it shouldn't be as high pitched as previous versions. Hmmm.

Get to the rest of the feedback later, thanks so much for the support!

[jackstock]

I meant the volume. It is probably better than before in terms of the octave.

[supermokkori]

I meant the volume. It is probably better than before in terms of the octave.

Ah ok. Work on better sound balance, but good to know the stroke beat is working fine.

I had my doubts about whether stroking and edging could be combined in a video to good effect. Edging works great in TeaseMe teases since you get to reach the edge at your own pace, and then click a button once you're there, so that you don't miss out on edge holding or rest time.

Yup. Again I hope future CH-video tease creators don't just throw in an "Edging" section just cuz it might be cool and different. Building up to an Edging section is just as important as knowing how long an Edging section should be, as well as the type of content being shown during an Edging session, imho.

IStroker Ace 3 was paced perfectly. I was always close to cumming when asked to edge, and the fast beats before an edge were never too fast or too long for me to hopelessly lose control, which is what I was most worried about, Every time I got to an edge riding part, I was amazed at how perfectly calibrated this was. The slow parts and the breaks were used to great effect as well. You're a genius at this, supermokkori!

The ending was also very well executed. It's a shame you won't make more videos, but I hope this video will inspire people to make more videos in this style.

Hahaha, thanks lestrian for the very complimentary comments. I don't think I'm a genius at this, though I did use my experience from Stroker Ace 2 and Stroker Edge to get a real good "feel" of how edges should take place in Stroker Ace 3. Very satisfied with the end result and looks like most Milovana users are as well.

And yeah, was quite happy how the reward ending sequence came out. It's a borrowed idea from Jackal403's Hand to Gland series so all credit should go to Jackal403 and agree, more creators should use this concept!

This was tremendous. I have to be honest here I'm shocked that people are able to make it for over an hour with videos like this! I lost it at around 16 minutes. Not complaining at all because it definitely felt great. Hope I'm not the only one that gets a little too excited watching this. Anyway - fantastic work. I'll try to hold out a little longer to see more of it next time.

Thanks qcaxtb for all the great comments. I think that the more you play the various CH-style videos, the more endurance you build up.

[supermokkori]

This is quite nearly a masterpiece. I played it again last night and barely made it beyond my prior losing point. What you've done by keeping the momentum at a high level towards the final 1/4th of the movie by never once letting off, is keep that uber heightened arousal state on the edge of cumming going for so damn long that it becomes euphoric and blissful.

Unfortunately this time my cock wasn't ready, despite having the same stroking technique, I ended up practically rubbing a layer of skin off my cock leaving it a bright strawberry red at the end. My shit was more raw than Eddie Murphy in 1987. I think 1 hour and 30 minutes is far too long for a CH, even a slow teasing one such as this.

YIKES! Brewster! LUBE! USE IT!

Kidding aside, thanks for the very great compliments. And yeah, I do agree 1 hour 30 minutes was WAY longer than I intended, even with all the intermission, breaks and such. And while, I thought about reducing it but... then I was too far done and WAY too lazy to try to trim it down.

On a different topic: I understand your past experience and confidence in your skills at making a nearly flawless CH (and you practically did). But you should have had someone beta test this (as I should have also done with my previous one). I say this because I feel collaborating, or receiving feedback from a fellow CH creator would have put this over the top. For example: Instead of using text to notify of a beat change, a big circle made in After Effects that unfolds like a pie slice (or a clock) with the beat pattern #'s inside of it would have been a bit easier to follow than "estimating" when 5 seconds is. Also I'd of had quite a few things to say about sprucing up the presentation of the in-between texts. Of course it'd all be at your discretion. I'm merely suggesting.

Yeah, I actually thought about having a few people test it out before I pushed it out. But as this was originally supposed to be out in November and to be quite honest, I just wanted to get it out already - especially as a few users commented in the SA3 preview thread that this video tease wasn't happening.

The only regret i have about SA3 is exactly what you were talking above - presentation elements. I would've love to spent some more time jazzing up the looks; you're "pie clock slice" idea sound fantastic and would've love to have done something like that. But the video editor I have been using for these teases isn't that powerful (i'm using a VLC-based video editor). And stylistically, I wanted the in-between texts to be pretty "low-fi" as in previous Stroker Ace series... I'm so far from the presentation elements like Champion of Cocknia, which blew away every standard for presentation in CH-style teases. Well that and I'm lazy.

Thanks for all the great feedback, brewster, as well as listing of the breaks that you thought were weird. Would be curious to know - when you're fully recovered from your "rawness" - your thoughts on the reward round. When you get to it, of course.

[chfluxfan]

Great work and great choice of ladies! Ah, Megan, Megan...