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So it looks like UK is starting to become one of the most unprivate places in the world, It has the most security cams anywhere in the world.... Then followed by leaving EU, the snoopers charter was put in place which breaks EU laws, but yet they say all EU laws will stay in place? (wtf)

And now they are forcing porn websites by April 2018 to enforce adult checks to make sure you are 18 - which means that you are going to be having to hand over your identity to porn sites :-O

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In Germany we have that "enforced age checks" on aduld websites for ages already. It's not a that big an issue as it just means there are no important porn sites hosted in Germany, if they were, they moved outside. It's a problem for communities like this though. If you want to display "adult" pictures even just stuff users are uploading you are required to have some age verification system in place.
You usually do not have to provide the information to the owner of the website however, there are larger service provide who do the checking and then assure to the website owner that you are an adult.
There is also the loophole that you are allowed to display adult content after 11pm or something (yeah, makes completely sense in context of the internet...).

Wasn't there also that law that required internet providers to censor porn unless the customer explictly signs up for a uncesored connection in the UK?
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kerkersklave wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:52 pm Wasn't there also that law that required internet providers to censor porn unless the customer explictly signs up for a uncesored connection in the UK?
Weird, you are right there was something that happened like that, but weirdly I changed my internet provider a while back and didn't have to do it.

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I can see how they want to protects kids is a good thing but handing over credit card details is such a stupid idea >.<
  
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Well, in Germany there are alternatives to handing over your credit card information. Actually I am not sure if a credit card would even do the trick, because there is no face to face identification. What you have to do here is to sign up with some identification service that somehow checks you are an adult. E.g. either you have to show your face on a webcam or you have to visit e.g. a post office to show your passport or something similar. Some of these services can also be used for other stuff that require identification like opening a online bankink account.

I think it is still a completely stupid idea. Very small kids should not use the internet unsupervised anyway, and a bit older kids usually wont go looking for porn. Google and Co. filter it in there default settings anyway. Once they are old enough they want to find it on purpose you won't be able to stop them with a stupid approach like that anyway and I don't think it is so damaging to them anyway if teenagers look at porn.

But if you really want to do it, you would need a really simple system, like "porn websites have to be tagged either using a .xxx domain name, a http header or a meta tag in the page". Them fine everyone that does not do it. Porn can then be filtered by various device settings (e.g. home routers or parental control on smartphones or whatever). The chances, this would be internationally followed, are quite high, because it is simple and most porn producers really do want to avoid any trouble.
But I guess this is not really about solving the problem.
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kerkersklave wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:11 am But if you really want to do it, you would need a really simple system, like "porn websites have to be tagged either using a .xxx domain name, a http header or a meta tag in the page". Them fine everyone that does not do it. Porn can then be filtered by various device settings (e.g. home routers or parental control on smartphones or whatever). The chances, this would be internationally followed, are quite high, because it is simple and most porn producers really do want to avoid any trouble.
But I guess this is not really about solving the problem.
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Really? I would be careful to trust such research.
Much of such research is either crap or highly dependend on social context.
E.g. I am quite sure it is damaging if there is no other source of information, but how much other information teenagers have available depends very much on the society they grow up in.
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kerkersklave wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:52 pm In Germany we have that "enforced age checks" on aduld websites for ages already. It's not a that big an issue as it just means there are no important porn sites hosted in Germany, if they were, they moved outside. It's a problem for communities like this though. If you want to display "adult" pictures even just stuff users are uploading you are required to have some age verification system in place.
In which country hosted milovana.com ?
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Avoiding the issue should be as simple as moving the hosting outside UK jurisdiction. It could be accessed by anyone, anywhere and would operate much like any site in (for instance) Australia, Germany, Belgium, France, etc.... If a company/individual who wants to run such a site, moving the host is a viable and sometimes quite attractive option. I do not host my personal website in my own country.

Keep in mind that your data does fall under the laws of the land in which your data is hosted.
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morewanking wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:57 am In which country hosted milovana.com ?
Netherlands :-)
  
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Are there any people from US? If yes, it can make sense to alert them about:
https://www.battleforthenet.com/
The FCC just voted to gut net neutrality rules, letting Internet providers like Verizon and Comcast control what we can see and do online with new fees, throttling, and censorship. But we can still get Congress to stop this—by passing a "Resolution of Disapproval" to overturn the FCC vote.
And this: https://stopsesta.org/
Net censorship is ugly in any country. (I am not from US.)

Are milovana.com have section for this? It is better to stop NOW such things, rather than later have to use Tor Browser to access sites.
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